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Observation in church today, 90% or better wearing masks, way up from last Sunday. Also attendance was at least 25% less. Most shaking hands and hugging etc then sitting down and screwing around the the mask that's worrying the chit out of them.
The mask may do some good if the user has some idea how to put it on and take it off correctly but what I see most folks doing while forced to wear one is actually going to cause more harm than good.

They don't just hand you a respirator and PPE in a nuclear plant, they make damn sure you can don and disrobe without spreading contaminates.

The statewide mandatory mask requirement will actually cause more harm than good IMO.

I wonder if this is the most studied and tested "flu" ever? Wonder if we tested, tracked and studied any other flu would not the numbers look the same?

Standby for questions about your PhD and if you majored in virology.

"I wonder if this is the most studied and tested "flu" ever? Wonder if we tested, tracked and studied any other flu would not the numbers look the same?"




The Doc running the Mayo Clinic's COVID-19 research program was asked on live TV the other day if there was any research that proved wearing a face mask will protect you from getting a virus . He said there has been no research or trials that proved they did but they just think it's a good idea.

Where do you get the 0.1% mortality rate for OK? According to the OK state health dept., the number of positives is 12,944 and the deaths at 385, which would give a mortality rate of 3%.
I certainly believe there are a lot more positives than what has been tested which would lower the mortality rate considerably, but I'm just wondering who's reporting a 0.1% mortality rate.

Your math is a little off based on the Utah health dept. They report 21,100 positives with 1396 ever hospitalized, which gives a 6.6% hospitalization rate. They also report 167 deaths for a mortality rate of 0.8%. Of those deaths, they do not break down if they died in a hospital or not, so it's hard to get a rate of deaths per hospitalization. If they were all in the hospital, the rate would be 12%, but of course it's much lower because many of those probably died in a nursing home.

Regardless, we have no idea how many positives there really are, so those rates are somewhat meaningless. What it does show though is Utah has a very low mortality rate regardless of what the real numbers are.

Yeah.

It's called virtue signaling.

The medical profession is worse than most.

Translation:

"Rocky is right."

I have only touched my face once in the last thirty years.

He's right about it not being that big a deal, just off on some of the numbers. Was I not clear?

Clear? Maybe.

Succinct? No.

I'm a numbers guy, so if we're going to talk numbers, then we should talk numbers. Otherwise leave numbers out of it. Not sure how to make it any more quick and easy than I did.

If you were dealing with real numbers I'd agree with you.

COVID numbers are 100% bullschit and have been from day one.

Some fun for SmaulRetard, and maybe make Bristoe feel a little better:

"But then all of a sudden early in June the mainstream media did a George Orwell and lectured us that it is all about “cases” and has always been all about “cases.” Death, and especially infection fatality rate, were irrelevant. Why? Because from the peak in April, deaths had decreased by 90 percent and were continuing to crash. That was not terrifying enough so the media pretended this good news did not exist.

With massive increases in testing, the “case” numbers climbed. This is not rocket science: the more people you test the more “cases” you discover.

In Texas the “second wave” propaganda has gotten so bad that the leaders of the four major hospitals in Houston took the extraordinary step late last week of holding a joint press conference to clarify that the scare stories of Houston hospitals being overwhelmed with Covid cases are simply untrue. Dr. Marc Boom of Houston Methodist said the reporting on hospital capacity is misleading. He said, “quite frankly, we’re concerned that there is a level of alarm in the community that is unwarranted right now.”

In fact, there has been much reporting that the “spike” in Texas cases is not due to a resurgence of the virus but to hospital practices of Covid-testing every patient coming in for any procedure at all. If it’s a positive, well that counts as a “Covid hospitalization.” Why would hospitals be so dishonest in their diagnoses? Billions of appropriated Federal dollars are being funneled to facilities based on the number of “Covid cases” they can produce. As I’ve always said, if you subsidize something you get more of it. And that’s why we are getting more Covid cases."

https://www.newswars.com/ron-paul-the-media-is-lying-about-the-second-wave/

Even Ron Paul gets it.

Yep. You never want to be at a party with more than 2 cops, blacks or people in the medical profession.

This is the biggest ripoff in modern history. Fu.......ck the covid propagandists.

Hell. I’d let ‘em inject me with a viral load of the baloney virus.

Open your search engine, Google or whatever. In the search box, enter any number, 1000 or below, and then the words "new cases". Like this: "995 new cases". Then search. Do it a dozen times, picking a different number. Try it a hundred times. What you will find are innumerable links to "new covid19 cases" called news.

You should all understand that all these major news sites have an algorithm that will create whatever story on command, as a page loads. You should understand that it is ALL fake news. You should understand that you are being lied to everywhere, all the time.

Add in the antibody studies, and the CDC says 10-20X more were infected. So that bumps the numbers back. Then take a guess at "suspected to get federal money" cases, and the numbers are even less.
More positives with out ventilators is herd immunity.

The map in the URL below has count by county. Yeah, they could be a little more granular with the color coding.

KY Covid Dashboard...

PaulCovtard. The gift, that keeps on givin.

Lindsey Rosales, a spokeswoman for the Texas Department of State Health Services, confirmed to Just the News this week that the state is categorizing every inpatient in the state with a positive COVID-19 test as a COVID-19 hospitalization.

"The number of hospitalized patients includes patients with a lab-confirmed case of COVID-19 even if the person is admitted to the hospital for a different reason," Rosales said.

She said the state does not keep track of the patients hospitalized with the coronavirus versus those hospitalized specifically because of it."

The number of hospitalizations are "being misinterpreted," said Houston Methodist CEO Marc Boom, "and, quite frankly, we’re concerned that there is a level of alarm in the community that is unwarranted right now."

He pointed out that his hospital one year ago was at 95% ICU capacity, similar to the numbers the hospital is seeing today. "It is completely normal for us to have ICU capacities that run in the 80s and 90s," he said. "That's how all hospitals operate."

https://justthenews.com/politics-po...nting-every-covid-positive-hospital-case