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Two Planes in Coeur d'Alene Lake #15025916 07/06/20
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Two small planes collided over the lake Sunday.
One a Cesna 206.
Eight believed Dead.
Two found.

Sunk to 127 feet.
Just about the limit for recreational divers.

Reuters


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Re: Two Planes in Coeur d'Alene Lake [Re: OldmanoftheSea] #15025917 07/06/20
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Saw that last night and it is on TV now.


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Re: Two Planes in Coeur d'Alene Lake [Re: OldmanoftheSea] #15025993 07/06/20
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Tourists?
Or plane rides?


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Re: Two Planes in Coeur d'Alene Lake [Re: OldmanoftheSea] #15026006 07/06/20
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Yeah, it was on the news this am... Sincere condolences offered to the families involved..


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Re: Two Planes in Coeur d'Alene Lake [Re: OldmanoftheSea] #15026023 07/06/20
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206, that’s a 6 passenger can

Likely a tourist outfitter


Any mention what the other aircraft was?


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Re: Two Planes in Coeur d'Alene Lake [Re: OldmanoftheSea] #15026038 07/06/20
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How in the fugg does schit like that happen????


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Re: Two Planes in Coeur d'Alene Lake [Re: OldmanoftheSea] #15026042 07/06/20
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Betting it was a severe clear day.


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Re: Two Planes in Coeur d'Alene Lake [Re: OldmanoftheSea] #15026043 07/06/20
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One in a million freak accident.


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Re: Two Planes in Coeur d'Alene Lake [Re: OldmanoftheSea] #15026056 07/06/20
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Cessna 206 and a De Havilland Beaver - ugly - local folks said lots of flying in the areas that day.


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Re: Two Planes in Coeur d'Alene Lake [Re: renegade50] #15026110 07/06/20
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Originally Posted by renegade50
How in the fugg does schit like that happen????


You sonovabitch !!!!!



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Re: Two Planes in Coeur d'Alene Lake [Re: OldmanoftheSea] #15026235 07/06/20
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It may be months, if ever, they recover all the bodies. Cold lake, thermoclines. I used to swim in it, and even surface waters stayed cold all summer ong.

FIL plane, over 40 years ago now, had oil changed there in his Cherokee6 retractable. Mechanic put in plug for the non-retractable gear model -elephant ears on it, which broke when the gear came up, Oil pressure went to zero, turned back, didn't make it back to the airport, ditched in lake. FiIL lasted long enough for the boats to get there.

About 90 days before MIL recovered. They could see her on sonar at about 60 feet, but the divers could never find her. Eventually did, after many tries.


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Re: Two Planes in Coeur d'Alene Lake [Re: las] #15026290 07/06/20
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Originally Posted by las
It may be months, if ever, they recover all the bodies. Cold lake, thermoclines. I used to swim in it, and even surface waters stayed cold all summer ong.

FIL plane, over 40 years ago now, had oil changed there in his Cherokee6 retractable. Mechanic put in plug for the non-retractable gear model -elephant ears on it, which broke when the gear came up, Oil pressure went to zero, turned back, didn't make it back to the airport, ditched in lake. FiIL lasted long enough for the boats to get there.

About 90 days before MIL recovered. They could see her on sonar at about 60 feet, but the divers could never find her. Eventually did, after many tries.


Damn dude, that’s sad. My condolences... frown

Re: Two Planes in Coeur d'Alene Lake [Re: las] #15026312 07/06/20
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Originally Posted by las
It may be months, if ever, they recover all the bodies. Cold lake, thermoclines. I used to swim in it, and even surface waters stayed cold all summer ong.

FIL plane, over 40 years ago now, had oil changed there in his Cherokee6 retractable. Mechanic put in plug for the non-retractable gear model -elephant ears on it, which broke when the gear came up, Oil pressure went to zero, turned back, didn't make it back to the airport, ditched in lake. FiIL lasted long enough for the boats to get there.

About 90 days before MIL recovered. They could see her on sonar at about 60 feet, but the divers could never find her. Eventually did, after many tries.

I heard that story many years ago from an A&P... had no idea of any connections to AK.


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Re: Two Planes in Coeur d'Alene Lake [Re: Pugs] #15026315 07/06/20
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Originally Posted by Pugs
Cessna 206 and a De Havilland Beaver - ugly - local folks said lots of flying in the areas that day.

Last few years have been hard on Beavers.


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Re: Two Planes in Coeur d'Alene Lake [Re: las] #15026332 07/06/20
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Originally Posted by las
It may be months, if ever, they recover all the bodies. Cold lake, thermoclines. I used to swim in it, and even surface waters stayed cold all summer ong.

FIL plane, over 40 years ago now, had oil changed there in his Cherokee6 retractable. Mechanic put in plug for the non-retractable gear model -elephant ears on it, which broke when the gear came up, Oil pressure went to zero, turned back, didn't make it back to the airport, ditched in lake. FiIL lasted long enough for the boats to get there.

About 90 days before MIL recovered. They could see her on sonar at about 60 feet, but the divers could never find her. Eventually did, after many tries.

I don’t know where you’re getting your dive information but 127ft is nothing really and the cold is just an inconvenience for a professional. A professional recovery crew can and will be all over the wreckage in a few hours. Nothing particularly dangerous about the recovery.

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Originally Posted by Daveinjax
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Originally Posted by las
It may be months, if ever, they recover all the bodies. Cold lake, thermoclines. I used to swim in it, and even surface waters stayed cold all summer ong.

FIL plane, over 40 years ago now, had oil changed there in his Cherokee6 retractable. Mechanic put in plug for the non-retractable gear model -elephant ears on it, which broke when the gear came up, Oil pressure went to zero, turned back, didn't make it back to the airport, ditched in lake. FiIL lasted long enough for the boats to get there.

About 90 days before MIL recovered. They could see her on sonar at about 60 feet, but the divers could never find her. Eventually did, after many tries.

I don’t know where you’re getting your dive information but 127ft is nothing really and the cold is just an inconvenience for a professional. A professional recovery crew can and will be all over the wreckage in a few hours. Nothing particularly dangerous about the recovery.

basically correct,
i have dove in a long time but even me i think one time made it to 120feet, for maybe a minute.


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Re: Two Planes in Coeur d'Alene Lake [Re: OldmanoftheSea] #15026751 07/06/20
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I was there....In-laws made it out of the plane before it sank- basically un-injured.. I was there (from my remote Interior Alaska cabin) 3 or 4 days later when they pulled the plane up on the ramp. FAA guy cracked the cowling, looked at the oil plug, and said "That's it, then".

Apparently free-floating bodies in cold water don't bloat well and are harder to recover than a metal aircraft.

I was assuming that not all the people would still be in the aircraft. No problem with recovery if they are.


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Originally Posted by RoninPhx
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Originally Posted by las
It may be months, if ever, they recover all the bodies. Cold lake, thermoclines. I used to swim in it, and even surface waters stayed cold all summer ong.

FIL plane, over 40 years ago now, had oil changed there in his Cherokee6 retractable. Mechanic put in plug for the non-retractable gear model -elephant ears on it, which broke when the gear came up, Oil pressure went to zero, turned back, didn't make it back to the airport, ditched in lake. FiIL lasted long enough for the boats to get there.

About 90 days before MIL recovered. They could see her on sonar at about 60 feet, but the divers could never find her. Eventually did, after many tries.

I don’t know where you’re getting your dive information but 127ft is nothing really and the cold is just an inconvenience for a professional. A professional recovery crew can and will be all over the wreckage in a few hours. Nothing particularly dangerous about the recovery.

basically correct,
i have dove in a long time but even me i think one time made it to 120feet, for maybe a minute.


40 years ago? Did this more sparsely populated area 40 years ago have that kind of equipment and training? Maybe they did on Pend O'reille at the naval installation. Maybe they didn't.

Re: Two Planes in Coeur d'Alene Lake [Re: Daveinjax] #15026785 07/06/20
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Originally Posted by las
It may be months, if ever, they recover all the bodies. Cold lake, thermoclines. I used to swim in it, and even surface waters stayed cold all summer ong.

FIL plane, over 40 years ago now, had oil changed there in his Cherokee6 retractable. Mechanic put in plug for the non-retractable gear model -elephant ears on it, which broke when the gear came up, Oil pressure went to zero, turned back, didn't make it back to the airport, ditched in lake. FiIL lasted long enough for the boats to get there.

About 90 days before MIL recovered. They could see her on sonar at about 60 feet, but the divers could never find her. Eventually did, after many tries.

I don’t know where you’re getting your dive information but 127ft is nothing really and the cold is just an inconvenience for a professional. A professional recovery crew can and will be all over the wreckage in a few hours. Nothing particularly dangerous about the recovery.

Talk in to me or las?
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Said: " recreational dive limits"
Agree not a big deal for pros.
Might lead to stupid in rec divers though...


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Re: Two Planes in Coeur d'Alene Lake [Re: OldmanoftheSea] #15026802 07/06/20
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I was fishing the lake about a mile away on my boat.

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