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That was her big mistake. She should have stayed in the car all called the cops. Paul B.
The fact that there might, in your judgment, have been better approaches to the problem presented to this couple doesn't necessarily mean that this woman was in the wrong. Yep. Too bad it doesn't and won't matter. If a police officer did the same, would that officer be sanctioned or charged? Is there really one set of rules for all? This may come as a surprise to you, but cops and the citizenry play by different rules. Did you know that cops can pull you over and write tickets for driving infractions?
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Feeling threatened isn't enough to justify deadly force (which didn't occur here anyway). For deadly force, your belief that you were threatened must be perceived as reasonable by the standard of the ordinary prudent person, putting themselves in your shoes at that moment. Also, the threat needs to be severe, i.e., to life or limb. The threat must also have been of imminent harm, not harm ten minutes from now, or if you do this or that.
Now we need to address whether those same standards should apply to a threatening display of a gun, and I don't think they should. Seems to me that the totality of the situation justified the gun's threatening display. The blacks were determined to raise a simple disagreement (which they manufactured themselves with the White couple) to the level where some sort of violence would result, so they could harm one or both of them, even extending to placing their bodies in the way of their car as they sought to escape the situation. That could be interpreted as False Imprisonment, which by itself justifies sufficient force to defeat it.
You started off well, but finish off in the rediculous category. You could have looked a lot less stupid ...😂 Would he have looked less stupid if he knew how to spell ridiculous?
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I’m not in any way suggesting that the woman was right to pull her gun.
What I am suggesting is that this was an intentional provocation to see what they could get away with, going after whitey.
That they got more than they bargained for is beside the point. They’re lucky she didn’t shoot one of them. Besides, the story end’s better this way.
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What kind of country are we living in when you can't stuff your barrel in the face of people who get on your damn nerves? Damn, you made me laugh !!
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