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And it still remains that if genesis is not taken literally, a literal creation, a literal fall, there is no need for redemption, a redeemer or the sacrifice of Jesus. It all falls apart. lmao Great argument, ha, ha. If there was no fall, what need of redemption? What need of Jesus?
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Yep. No intent here on conversion. If the Evolutionists would have taken the time to listen to the video, they would have been familiarized with several different theories of evolution.
The simple question was for the evolutionists to see and explain which one of the several they believed in.
The Creationists simply explained the shortcomings of those theories presented.
If creationists took the time and effort to objectively understand the nature of evolution and evidence for it, they would accept its reality.
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Are you actually honest?
You outright claimed Constantine had converted and helped fix the feuding mess of christians as a christian himself...
Then when questioned on your claim we find out you don't really know if he was a christian... You just MADE up a narrative out of sheer convenience.
Thus, How much of the whole christian narrative is made up? LOL.....so that’s a second “No. The missing link(s) hasn’t/haven’t been found” followed by deflection and attack on character. Thanks. Just Google "transitional fossils." There are many examples.
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DBT,
just ask christians to list the O.T. source criteria necessary to be the Messiah.
Then we will see where Jesus falls short of such requirements, coz the christian narrative doesn't match up.
I've never seen (an honest) CF Christian that can glue the two together and make it work.
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Yep. No intent here on conversion. If the Evolutionists would have taken the time to listen to the video, they would have been familiarized with several different theories of evolution.
The simple question was for the evolutionists to see and explain which one of the several they believed in.
The Creationists simply explained the shortcomings of those theories presented.
If creationists took the time and effort to objectively understand the nature of evolution and evidence for it, they would accept its reality. I support whichever evolution theory that has the best supporting evidence. It is a learning experience. I cannot find much difference in any of them. it is how we got the world we live in.
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SOMEBODY please tell TRH that Netanyahu NEVER said "Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away."
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Yep. No intent here on conversion. If the Evolutionists would have taken the time to listen to the video, they would have been familiarized with several different theories of evolution.
The simple question was for the evolutionists to see and explain which one of the several they believed in.
The Creationists simply explained the shortcomings of those theories presented.
If creationists took the time and effort to objectively understand the nature of evolution and evidence for it, they would accept its reality. I support whichever evolution theory that has the best supporting evidence. It is a learning experience. I cannot find much difference in any of them. it is how we got the world we live in. How many 'theories of evolution' are there?
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I support whichever evolution theory has the best supporting evidence. 👊🏻 I’m flippin’ savin’ this...!
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You fabricated a narrative on Constantine and someone bringing that to light you then consider as an attack on your 'Christian' character.... 😂 Sigh. More of the same. I fabricated nothing: https://www.britannica.com/biography/Constantine-I-Roman-emperor When the huff- puff smoke and mirrors dont work, christians don't have anything remaining but claiming ~victim status. LOL. Why are the majority of evolution supporters on this thread so angry? 😂 Christian frauds, you can get 13 to the dozen for a lousy dime. No argument here. They almost rival the human evolution supporters that have delivered the missing link with the level of science used in the “Search for Bigfoot” reality TV show.
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They almost rival the human evolution supporters that have delivered the missing link with the level of science used in the “Search for Bigfoot” reality TV show.
Were you born ignorant or did you have to practice. There is not the slightest evidence for Bigfoot. There are thousands of pieces of evidene for transitional human ancestors. That's the difference. Have you ever visited a natural history museum? BTW: There is not the slightest evidence for Adam and Eve, talking snakes, Noah's Ark, etc. They are equally as spurious as Bigfoot.
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The 'missing link' is a strawman. Evolution doesn't rest on a single thing, a 'missing link.' We have transitional fossils, they exist, they are the links.
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Yep. No intent here on conversion. If the Evolutionists would have taken the time to listen to the video, they would have been familiarized with several different theories of evolution.
The simple question was for the evolutionists to see and explain which one of the several they believed in.
The Creationists simply explained the shortcomings of those theories presented.
If creationists took the time and effort to objectively understand the nature of evolution and evidence for it, they would accept its reality. I support whichever evolution theory that has the best supporting evidence. It is a learning experience. I cannot find much difference in any of them. it is how we got the world we live in. How many 'theories of evolution' are there? Ask jaguartx, he started this mess.
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“In Trump We Trust.” Right????
SOMEBODY please tell TRH that Netanyahu NEVER said "Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away."
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They almost rival the human evolution supporters that have delivered the missing link with the level of science used in the “Search for Bigfoot” reality TV show.
Were you born ignorant or did you have to practice. There is not the slightest evidence for Bigfoot. There are thousands of pieces of evidene for transitional human ancestors. That's the difference. Have you ever visited a natural history museum? BTW: There is not the slightest evidence for Adam and Eve, talking snakes, Noah's Ark, etc. They are equally as spurious as Bigfoot. At least Bigfoot left tracks. Big ones.
Leo of the Land of Dyr
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“In Trump We Trust.” Right????
SOMEBODY please tell TRH that Netanyahu NEVER said "Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away."
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Yep. No intent here on conversion. If the Evolutionists would have taken the time to listen to the video, they would have been familiarized with several different theories of evolution.
The simple question was for the evolutionists to see and explain which one of the several they believed in.
The Creationists simply explained the shortcomings of those theories presented.
If creationists took the time and effort to objectively understand the nature of evolution and evidence for it, they would accept its reality. I support whichever evolution theory that has the best supporting evidence. It is a learning experience. I cannot find much difference in any of them. it is how we got the world we live in. How many 'theories of evolution' are there? Ask jaguartx, he started this mess. Opposing views tend to clash. Inevitable, really.
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... The Old Testament is Judaism ... Not according to Christ. He made a very clear distinction. The teachers of Judaism rejected the religion found in the Old Testament Scriptures and substituted what Christ termed the traditions of men, which was what the Rabis were teaching under the name Judaism, later to be codified in what is called the Talmud. It's what is also today termed Judaism.
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Were you born ignorant or did you have to practice. Classy. 😂 There is not the slightest evidence for Bigfoot. There are thousands of pieces of evidene for transitional human ancestors. We have a third “No. The missing link(s) hasn’t/haven’t been found” with a claim of other evidence being enough to claim modern man came from non-modern man “ancestors” and a suggestion to visit the Museum of Natural History. Thanks. The 'missing link' is a strawman. Evolution doesn't rest on a single thing, a 'missing link.' Says you and the rest of evolution supporters that appear to subjectively seek out evidence that supports what opinion you’ve already come to. Puts a different (faith-based) twist on the scientific method. We have transitional fossils, they exist, they are the links.
Please see above.
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At least Bigfoot left tracks. Big ones. Dude... lol
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... The Old Testament is Judaism ... Not according to Christ. He made a very clear distinction. The teachers of Judaism rejected the religion found in the Old Testament Scriptures and substituted what Christ termed the traditions of men, which was what the Rabis were teaching under the name Judaism, later to be codified in what is called the Talmud. It's what is also today termed Judaism. We have nothing from Jesus, only anonymous gospel writers and Paul. The OT is clearly incompatible with the new testament....up to and including the requirements for the prophesied Messiah given in the OT and Jesus
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Were you born ignorant or did you have to practice. Classy. 😂 There is not the slightest evidence for Bigfoot. There are thousands of pieces of evidene for transitional human ancestors. We have a third “No. The missing link(s) hasn’t/haven’t been found” with a claim of other evidence being enough to claim modern man came from non-modern man “ancestors” and a suggestion to visit the Museum of Natural History. Thanks. The 'missing link' is a strawman. Evolution doesn't rest on a single thing, a 'missing link.' Says you and the rest of evolution supporters that appear to subjectively seek out evidence that supports what opinion you’ve already come to. Puts a different (faith-based) twist on the scientific method. We have transitional fossils, they exist, they are the links.
Please see above. It's not an unfounded claim being made by 'evolutionsts,' the evidence is there. It has withstood one hundred and fifty years of testing. It's the creationist who makes claims.
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It's not an unfounded claim being made by 'evolutionsts,' the evidence is there. It has withstood one hundred and fifty years of testing. It's the creationist who makes claims. Did you just invoke the “I’m rubber. You’re glue.” proclamation with a double stamp?
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