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Wrath in the New Testament is a pale shadow compared to wrath in the Old Testament.

Psalm 137:9 Blessed shall he be who takes your little ones and dashes them against the rock!

I thought Tom horn was hanged.

He was.

As i recall in Rawlins Wyoming.

Nope. Cheyenne Wyoming, 1903.

We went through this before. You must have missed it. As I recall that discussion..... This is a prophecy.... a foretelling .... Of the fall and subsequent destruction of Babylon. When an oppressed people have victory over a hated enemy..... as was common in those days, they get atrociously violent. “Happy are they who,,,,”. This is the result of warfare and violent times. They were indeed “happy” in their vengeance.

Your implication that it is “wrath” of God is simply in error. It is a description of event that were to come....

Go back and review if you like.

I guess its not possible for there to be more than one person named Tom Horn.

Lazarus

The church was well and truelly a serious mess by
the time of Constantine. Christians were fueding-
bordering on civil war over differences of opinion
concerning Jesus.

Thank you so much for that, TF.

Many love and worship their church or religion more than HE or HIS word. So sad.

I was appalled once when watching the previous pope on TV when he said "You must worship the church". Unreal.

Theres going to be a great gnashing of teeth.

I posted early on this thread that turning this into New vs Old Testament debate has been done before.

You are right that they lived in violent times, but that is no excuse for claiming that God told them to commit genocide.

“Wrath of God” is central and interwoven in Biblical teachings. There is a awful lot of that in the Bible.

And this is not prophecy nor foretelling:
Exodus 12:29-30: At midnight the Lord struck down all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh who sat on his throne to the firstborn of the captive who was in the dungeon, and all the firstborn of the livestock. And Pharaoh rose up in the night, he and all his servants and all the Egyptians. And there was a great cry in Egypt, for there was not a house where someone was not dead.

Genocide? HE could have killed them all.

I guess thats apparently still on the menu.

Re: Psalm 137:9....Do you think that God told ”them” to commit genocide?

yet that video said he went to heaven and came back

Revelation 6:16 and they *said to the mountains and to the rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the presence of Him who sits on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb;

Revelation 6:17 for the great day of their wrath has come, and who is able to stand?”

Revelation 14:19 So the angel swung his sickle to the earth and gathered the clusters from the vine of the earth, and threw them into the great wine press of the wrath of God.

Revelation 15:7 Then one of the four living creatures gave to the seven angels seven golden bowls full of the wrath of God, who lives forever and ever.

Revelation 16:19 The great city was split into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell. Babylon the great was remembered before God, to give her the cup of the wine of His fierce wrath.

Revelation 19:15 From His mouth comes a sharp sword, so that with it He may strike down the nations, and He will rule them with a rod of iron; and He treads the wine press of the fierce wrath of God, the Almighty.

1 Thessalonians 1:10 and to wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, that is Jesus, who rescues us from the wrath to come.

Colossians 3:6 For it is because of these things that the wrath of God will come upon the sons of disobedience,

Ephesians 5:6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience.

Romans 2:5 But because of your stubbornness and unrepentant heart you are storing up wrath for yourself in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God,

Romans 5:9 Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from the wrath of God through Him.

there shouldn't be.

Every pastor and Christian may say the same, yet do not agree with each other on theology. That is a problem.

That doesnt resolve the problem that is being presented by descriptions of Love, a God of Love on the one hand and a god of war on the other.

The two descriptions are not compatible. You can't be a man of war, a warrior, and a man of peace, refusing to kill or participate in war at the same time without contradiction or hypocrisy.

Self defense is of course a different issue, ie, being compelled against your better nature.

God as an absolute power, omnipotent, is not compelled to act against his own nature.

The contradiction between a God of Love and a god of war is recorded in the bible.

well, never mind, don't do the word study. it'd be a waste of your time because you have your preconceived mind already made up.

If not God...then who?