Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire So, which of the 6 theories of Evolution do you unbelievers believe in?

JEHOVAH SABAOTH- The God of Angel Armies.

This seems to be have a parallel in the political world. The Democrats (non-believers) contribute nothing towards solving political (moral) problems, while the Republicans (believers) dicker among themselves as to how to practically address the political (moral) issues of the day. With no united front against the Democrats, the Republicans lose much of their potential effectiveness. Likewise with Christians. There is at minimum a conservative wing of Christianity and a moderate wing, and it is difficult to iron out those differences. That does not mean that both wings are completely wrong.

Once again, you would be wrong.

I still get amused when we see presumably non-Christians doing their own peculiar brand of biblical interpretation.

But, at least you are here and do step into the batter’s box.

You really don't understand that it is OK for God to order genocide? OK as long as someone else gives the order or does the bidding? Just fine if the Lord of Hosts is not God? And somehow he is allowed to do something that God would not do himself?

God Forbid.

Here's a question for Bible believers. In what state of imaturity or maturity were Adam and Eve created?

IF..?.... so you are merely speculating.

Likely they were just christian fanatics
and anonymous ones at that.

Agenda driven Liars and fabricators until
proven otherwise.

Adam was born like you or I. Adam's species was created by the command of God, "Let the waters bring forth every creature that hath life." Then God separated Adam from amongst other members of his species, breathed a soul into him, and made Eve from his rib.

"And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof. Then the rib which the LORD God had taken from man He made into a woman, and He brought her to the man."


Eve could have started as a zygote or a fully mature young woman. The Bible doesn't say. What is your speculation on that?

I don't speculate. I take God at His Word. He created Adam mature and later made Eve mature from his rib. After all God told them to be fruitful and multiply. Did God mean eighteen or twenty years later?

I expect this is correct. And then Lucifer, the most beautiful angel, who was as charming and magnificent and wonderful as when he comes again and decieves many of the men on earth, took her and beguiled her. And satans seed was begotten in her long pain of birthing Cain and Able.

Take care, friends, and tell your children, if you're here when he comes and decieves most again, with his beauty and seeming perfection and, as others are already doing among us, performing of miracles and claiming to be the son of man, the Father, that you pinch yourself and know, that if you feel that pain, that its him, and he really isnt HIM.

I am trying to see if you understand that just because “words” were spoken and recorded in the Bible.... that those words may not be words, teachings or directives from God.

If you cannot read Psalm 137:9 and see that it is prophecy and not a directive then you have a need of further study and skill.

Edit to add: there is difference between a prophecy.... a foretelling of future events... and a directive from God.

Exodus 12:29-30 ESV
At midnight the Lord struck down all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh who sat on his throne to the firstborn of the captive who was in the dungeon, and all the firstborn of the livestock. And Pharaoh rose up in the night, he and all his servants and all the Egyptians. And there was a great cry in Egypt, for there was not a house where someone was not dead.

You are avoiding the issue.

Let me put it to you again..... do you believe that Psalm 137:9 is a directive from God? If so, to whom was it directed?

I think there’s a lotta stuff we’re not gonna know on this side of heaven. The Bible tells us nuthin’ about certain things we might be curious about, and it’s inconclusive about others. We disagree with one another on a lot, but many of us agree with one another on a lot too...especially on the main tenets of the faith. Different people see certain aspects of things differently, whether it’s politics, economics, or religion. Conservatives do NOT agree on all aspects of politics, and economists do NOT agree on all aspects of the economy. Big deal. So what. Not a problem.

We don't know. It doesn't say.

People in the churches and social groups don't accept the clear teaching of God's Word. Adam sinned and God reacted by cursing the intire universe at that time. 1,656 years later God told Noah, "I will blot out man whom I have created from the face of the land...." Later God told Abraham He was going to destroy Sodam and Gamorah. Later God told General Joshua to kill every man, woman, child, and their pets and livestock because they anoyed God. Somehow death glorifies God. Remember Jesus told Peter what kind of death he would experience to glorify God. Later God tells us He will send a consumming fire on those who do not know God and those who do not obey the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.

The God of the Bible is NOT the Sunday school or catechism god we were taught about as kids. He does genocide!

You are truely amazing.

Yes, indeed, a god of war in the old testament tranformed into a god of Love in the new testament. Two different versions of 'god' - and there lies the contradiction.

It is one of those Psalms where the Jews are asking God to kick some butt. Do some of that genocide he is always talking about.

You have yet to explain how something that has already happened last night at midnight is a prophecy.

Here is another one that is not prophecy:
Genesis 19:24
Then the Lord rained on Sodom and Gomorrah sulfur and fire from the Lord out of heaven.

Amen. In fact, no one but HE understands everything correctly in the Bible except HE, least no one will boast.

So intillegently and all encompassingly written it may purposefully mean and be truth to one person and still be correct truth to someone else who has a different interpretation or understanding.

As I surmised. You don’t have a good understanding of what a “prophecy” is and you are also unable to discern the difference between a prophecy and a command or directive from God.

No wonder you understand very little. However, you are still hanging in there and I applaud that.

Btw.... in your opinion, was Hiroshima genocide?