Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Yes, Satan nailed Eve in the Garden of Eden and had a son.

Q will certainly tell you that plenty in power on this planet worship Satan and are busy doing his bidding. Christian or not I think we would all like to see and end to that.

You mention inspired a few posts back. Is one's inspiration less than another persons?

antlers, I see what you are saying. I actually believe the voted out books is God cleaning up His inspired word.

Your god may have allowed Bible to be corrupted
like he did Adam & Eve and the church.

Btw; Had a Creator not hated gardening there
would have been no need for an Adam to tend it.



Such Logic and reason has no place
in christian faith.

When something is totally devoid of all logic,
reason, evidence and witness, you have faith,
but ~stupidity~ shares the same definition.

BELIEF is a construct of the mortal fallible mind.
yet countless Christians form another wacky belief
that their beliefs are infallible / beyond question.

As if more absurdity and delusion gives credit
to their other feeble mind factory junk.

No, I’m not. I’m pointing out that if man “voted out” a book that was inspired by God, that doesn’t negate the legitimacy of what we ‘do’ have in the Bible today. If man “voted out” a book that was inspired by God, that doesn’t mean that what we ‘do’ have in the Bible today isn’t equally inspired by God. I don’t know that. And you don’t know that. Although you can have your opinion on the matter.

I was referring to the books themselves as being ‘inspired’ by God. But, I ‘do’ think that your opinions or inspirations on these matters are just as valid as anyone else’s are.

I agree.


God said he would protect His word. For me that is knowing. It's knowing because I act on that belief as if it were absolute truth. My job is not to make you believe anything.

What has your god allowed?

All you know is a book penned by man
and of dubious credibility.

Is there any christIan here that can prove
All other Gods are false.?

Why are your mental fabrications of a God
any more credible than anyone else's..?

Foolish, quite foolish.

Did God say that...? Or did the psalmist say that when he was praising God...? Your opinion, and what you choose to believe, factors in as well.Don’t know where that even came from. Regardless, what we have now was put together by a bunch of 4th century guys who were trying to cobble together something that would suit an Emperor who was establishing a State Religion. Did God watch over that and make sure that we have what He wanted us to have...?

I hear you, but a man's work, inspired by God, is still man's work. How does one know that Paul wasn't crazier than 3 sheithouse rats? Paul could have been an earlier version of Charley Manson. I'm assuming they were less tethered in the day? Perhaps the inspiration came from Satan? How do you you, I or anyone know? Does God show the one inspired a photo ID?

I don't know, no one knows, so any possibility is as likely or unlikely as any other one.

It was decided by people who had the authority to judge and were deemed worthy of having that authority passed on to them through apostolic succession.
The actual inclusion was based on 4 criteria:
Apostolic Origin - attributed to and/or based on the preaching/teaching of the first-generation apostles (or their closest companions).
Universal Acceptance - acknowledged by all major Christian communities in the Mediterranean world (by the end of the fourth century).
Liturgical Use - read publicly along with the OT when early Christians gathered for the Lord’s Supper (their weekly worship services).
Consistent Message - containing theological ideas compatible with other accepted Christian writings (incl. the divinity and humanity Jesus).
Two other criteria that make themselves apparent by the selections were that the book be universally applicable and also that it make a unique contribution. For example, The Shepherd of Hermas was a candidate for inclusion, but was decided that it was private revelation and not universally applicable plus it didn't contain anything that wasn't found elsewhere. This doesn't mean that the Shepherd of Hermas is a bad book to read, but it's unnecessary. You could put the great Didache in the same group. Although it was universal in application, it didn't fit the uniqueness along with not being used in liturgy.

You could get good answers to these questions by reading one or both books I referenced.

I don’t disagree with that.We’re men. We choose what we think is right, and move forward with it. To me, whether one believes that Jesus was the Son of God or not, following His teachings will make one’s life better....and it will make one better at life.

RR - although I may not agree that humans deify EVERYTHING, I do understand your point here and also understand that which you posted earlier about the "development" (quotes mine) of the Scriptures. I don't intend to argue any of the broad or finer points in this thread,

I do appreciate what you have posted because it seems to call attention to the major concept and factor alive in many who would take a position opposite to some of yours. Faith is not quantifiable in any sense, and it is mysterious to many. In the case of those for whom it is not the key driver in such beliefs, it may even be unfathomable. If you have it, use it. If you don't, use something else.

Then they took that Bible out of the hands of the common man and chained it to the alter, and forbid any common man from having a Bible, or even reading a Bible for himself.

Again, you should read one of those books so you can avoid embarrassing yourself in the future.

laffin’

Inspired by God is a claim made by man.