Evaluated experience is often the best of teachers.
Seems like I had to learn Everything the hard way. God must have a lot of patience with me. 🤠
"Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston Texans, "We say Grace, We Say Mam, If You Don't Like it, We Don't Give a Damn!"
Lots of people want to go to heaven but still don't want to die. You can't have it both ways. There in "no good thing dwelling in our flesh"
"God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose" is a true scripture, but I am pretty sure the focus in on the afterlife, not the present one.
The flesh doesn't get saved. The soul and spirit do. Salvation is 100% good, but we all must die once, and after that is judgement.
Jesus Himself said "For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it." That's His salvation and that is VERY good.
But those that think God is there to give them a good and perfect natural life have never read the Bible. Remember, even the 12 original apostles all died. None of us are better then they were.
Anyone believe there is any predestination involved?
Nope.
He may have predetermined my purpose...but not my free will. I have the choice to accept or reject my purpose.
This. I make my choice to ask Him into my heart to save me. Everyone else has that choice. HE did not predetermine some would reject HIM and be punished, though HE knew us in our mothers womb and knew beforehand who would.
We are responsible for making our future with or without HIM. Its on us, not Him. HE doesnt give some a chance to save themselve and give others no chance and a death sentence before birth.
All have the chance to repent and believe, though Satan hardens many hearts in his fight for them and in his effort to defeat Christ in the battle for HIS.
GOD gave us free will. You can choose life or death. HE doesnt take your name out of the BOOK OF LIFE. You can. The choice is yours.
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Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
I agree. You are absolutely right and we can trust God 100%.
^^^This^^^
"Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston Texans, "We say Grace, We Say Mam, If You Don't Like it, We Don't Give a Damn!"
As good as this thread is, we are mostly preaching to the choir. I do hope someone that may be on the fence will read and, we can help lead them to Our Lord.
These premises insured by a Sheltie in Training ,--- and Cooey.o "May the Good Lord take a likin' to you"
HE doesnt give some a chance to save themselve and give others no chance and a death sentence before birth.
No one has any chance to save themselves. If we did, Christ would have died for nothing according to Paul in his letter to the Galatians (chapter 2).
We aren’t “pretty sick” in trespasses and sins we’re DEAD (Eph 2). Try laying the cure for some disease next to a corpse, reassuring it that “the cure for your disease is right there; take it up and be healed!”
Extreme and untold gratitude must arrest the heart of those of us who have been awakened from death to newness of life! It’s an unfathomable miracle. And it’s done for us. Those who are not awakened get justice even as Christ has suffered God’s wrath for our sins. It’s a wonder that God has called any at all; if we were paid our just reward we’d all be doomed.
"God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose" is a true scripture, but I am pretty sure the focus is on the afterlife, not the present one.
THAT is an enlightening and different perspective. Thanks for that.
A lot of things have happened to me that did not seem so good at the time.
I think a great many of us can relate to that.
Just because God can work incredible good out of unspeakable tragedies doesn't mean that He orchestrated the tragedies. Just because He used something bad doesn’t mean that He caused it...or that He needed it to accomplish His purposes.
“The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy.”
There ‘is’ an enemy, and he is out to sway us with hardships and troubles.
I, in no way disagree. To play point/counterpoint, as in reference to Job’s seeming misfortunes, “when God sends you tribulation, he expects you to tribulate.” An elder black woman friend of mine told me that. Her name was Willa Dorsey.
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"I never thought I'd live to see the day that a U.S. president would raise an army to invade his own country." Robert E. Lee
Romans 8:29 let's us know why verse 28 is so. All things that happen to those whom He calls is -- to take on the likeness of Jesus. Saying bad things happening to you, like a hurricane, are really good is NUTS! Unless they are part of God's molding my character to be like that of His Son.
What a comfort to know history is not "just one blankety-blank thing after another" (per Mark Twain's godless perspective.)
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