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Here you go R H Clark, and anyone else who wants to know.

A man once asked me if I was 100% certain that if I were to die today, would I go to heaven?

I appreciate that question. It has an answer that God is not hiding from us. I posted it yesterday, but some missed it. Here's the answer.

Lets walk down the Romans road for that straight way to heaven. Jesus said in John 14:6

"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

The first question that requires an answer in order to get to the heart of the issue is....
1. Who needs to be saved?

Romans 3:10
"As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one."
Why?
Isaiah says, "But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away."

I cleaned a Possum cage and I wouldn't even think of wiping my mouth off with that filthy rag. Stink, flies, possum poop, yuk; now that's an illustration of what our "righteous" deeds (good works) are to God in regards to salvation.
Why?

"For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;". Romans 3:23
Does that apply to you? Have you ever sinned? IF you have always been and always be perfect, this doesn't apply to you. Maybe you haven't committed murder, but have you ever told a lie?

Romans 6:
23
"For the wages of sin is death...."

Death? Well EVERYBODY dies sooner or later.
But, the death here is the eternal death of the human spirit, not the mere body. Revelation of Jesus Christ explains in frightening details what this means in 20:14, 15; & 21:8
"And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire."
"But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death."

Now there's a serious promise. How many murders would a killer have to kill to be considered a murderer?
How many lies to be a liar?
There's a reason why these are both different degrees of sin yet in the same list.

2. According to God, where do you deserve to go some day?

This point is extremely important. If you can not admit your condemnation to a completely holy and righteous God, you can not see your personal need for Him to save you.

The Bible tells us that it's not wise to compare yourself to others. In doing so we are trying to justify ourselves by our own righteousness, which is holding up a dirty diaper to the Lord and saying " I've got a bunch of these for You to consider, so why not let me into heaven? These rags of my righteous works should pay for my tens of thousands of sins....right?"
Wrong!

"Lord, I've gotten baptized, tried to obey the law, treated others with respect, give to the lodge, the church, the nra, don't cuss, don't chew, don't go with girls that do!
I gave my life to You, repent of all my sins.!"
Those are all works of self righteousness....filthy rags.

"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.". Eph. 2... Likewise on that Romans road 4:5
"But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness."

Notice the following.
A. We are UNgodly.
B. This is to those who "worketh NOT."
C. Who are we to believe upon so we call be justified in His eyes?
D. Salvation is of faith in Him, because it is a gift that has been fully paid for. It was paid by Jesus, God's holy Son Who suffered, taking our punishment....dying.....then taking that life back the third day.

"But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.". Romans 5:8
6:23 "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."


He is the One and only accepted Sacrifice. He doesn't want you to give anything to Him. The debt has been paid in full. It is finished.
From the minute you transfer the object of your faith... those filthy rags to The crucified Savior as the Object of faith..... that is when He gives that gift of everlasting life. You can never go to hell from that point on. What about sins? You will be treated as God's children. If you do something really bad, He will discipline you on earth in here and now, but will never send you to hell.

3. What must you do to be saved?

"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved."
The word believe is repeated 100 times in the gospel of John alone. You have read,
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

Here's a sample prayer to make it very simple.

Pray now,

"Dear God,
I don't deserve to go to heaven. If I got what I deserve it would be hell. There's no amount of works that I can do to be saved. So right now, I place my trust in the Savior, Your Son Jesus. He suffered terrible torments for what I have done against You....so that I will not suffer the torments of hell. Please give me Your promised gift of everlasting life.
Thank You very much Lord.
Amen."

Please PM me immediately upon praying this prayer.
I want to pray for you and be a blessing to you any way possible.

Happy Camper

Being at one or being exactly like Jesus will not happen in this life. Even if you are born again you still live in a flesh body that is corruptible, at death then one can put on incorruption. Being perfect like Christ this side of the grave ain't happening. Being at peace with God through faith in Jesus is possible. If a person is in Christ they are a new creation. The things I did 10+ yrs ago I have been set free from. Don't ask what they are that's between me & God.

I quote the Bible, because it is God's detailed revelations to us. My opinions are subjective and prone to errors.

I also quote the Bible because It is the example that my Savior, Jesus gave.

A. He quoted His prophets many times and read from the Old covenant / testament in the synagogues.

B. Jesus was tempted by Satan himself and quoted specific references that applied to the temptation and affirmed to Satan that he was talking to the Almighty God Who was in the devil's presence.

Also, I quote the Word of God because,
"And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

The Bible is inspired by Almighty, All knowing God.
It's profitable for many reasons. Most of all,
It is the way to know how to be with God.

Being at one or being exactly like Jesus will not happen in this life. Even if you are born again you still live in a flesh body that is corruptible, at death then one can put on incorruption. Being perfect like Christ this side of the grave ain't happening. Being at peace with God through faith in Jesus is possible. If a person is in Christ they are a new creation. The things I did 10+ yrs ago I have been set free from. Don't ask what they are that's between me & God.

Can a person obtain salvation by following Jesus?

Can a person learn enough about salvation to obtain salvation if they completely ignore Paul's letters? I say yes.

I would think you a very nice well meaning man,as I find most Christians to be. I also find however that people who don't really know much about what they believe always refer to the text of what they are supposed to believe to answer simple questions about what they actually do believe.
My questions are meant to spark thought in you,not to regurgitate Paul's thoughts. If indeed God is alive in you,why must you only repeat what He told someone else 2000 years ago? Those are questions you must ask if you are to ever be really One with God.

Then there is the question of a missionary having the flat tire, and never getting to the native village?

I think there is some type of a "Second chance"?

Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’

Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy[a] that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. 14 For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few.

CT, I'm talking about people that never heard.

Then there is the question of a missionary having the flat tire, and never getting to the native village?

I think there is some type of a "Second chance"?

I quote the Bible, because it is God's detailed revelations to us. My opinions are subjective and prone to errors.

I also quote the Bible because It is the example that my Savior, Jesus gave.

A. He quoted His prophets many times and read from the Old covenant / testament in the synagogues.

B. Jesus was tempted by Satan himself and quoted specific references that applied to the temptation and affirmed to Satan that he was talking to the Almighty God Who was in the devil's presence.

Also, I quote the Word of God because,
"And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

The Bible is inspired by Almighty, All knowing God.
It's profitable for many reasons. Most of all,
It is the way to know how to be with God.

I understand that perfectly. I operated that way for nearly 20 years. The question then you need to ask yourself is,"Can God speak to me separately,one on one today,rather than me getting all my answers from what he told somebody else 2000 years ago.

I'm not saying that what God said to them isn't true or relevant. What I'm saying is that you need specific instruction for your life from God today, rather than trying to live it according to what he told somebody else. The whole purpose of the whole Bible is for you to understand that you can have a one on one with God,in fact that's what he wants.

If you want to find God and understand your purpose,look inward and search for the real truth about everything.

Clark, with all due respect, God told those 2000 years ago exactly what he tells people today. The Bible hasn't changed, not one word. Want to hear what God has to say? Read the Bible.

That may be what you meant. If so I apologize.