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CT, I'm sure God love all of us, I'm not so sure about the, "Gay Pastors.

God, through the Holy Spirit has revealed just the opposite to many. Who is correct?

Well, if the best surgeon, mechanic, or firefighter were the choice I had, I'd take the person?

The only thing I could tell you about anything is to follow TRUTH. Now,figuring out what TRUTH really is and separating TRUTH from opinion and personal experience is up to you. It's not as easy as it first appears and often requires deep personal examination of why you think a particular way.

Those first century followers of Jesus didn’t even have the Bible, because the Bible didn’t even exist yet. But Jesus’ movement made some great strides early on ‘without’ a Bible. Jewish Christians didn’t have their lives changed by the Old Testament books that they’d been reading and studying and living by for their entire lives...! The Apostles didn’t become emboldened and stand up to the very power structure that had Jesus crucified because they were motivated by the Old Testament books that they’d been reading and studying their entire lives...! And Saul, who was the Pharisee of Pharisees, who was expert at the books of the Old Testament...and lived his life according to them...didn’t become the Apostle Paul due to those Old Testament books that his entire life was centered on...! Jesus’ Apostles...who hid and were scared after Jesus was executed...later made a remarkable change. They became emboldened, they faced and defied the very people who had Jesus crucified. It WASN’T the Old Testament that brought about this change in them, and it WASN’T any New Testament documents (which hadn’t even been written yet) that brought about this change in them. They were emboldened by something they had seen with their own eyes. They saw Jesus killed. And a few days later they had breakfast with Him on the beach...! They ALL experienced the risen Jesus. THAT is what changed their lives. For me, the faith of Christianity is tethered to the event of the Resurrection rather than the authority and inspiration or infallibility or inerrancy of the Bible. The Bible did not create Christianity. The Bible did not birth Jesus’ Church. For me, the faith is anchored to the event (the Resurrection) that sparked the movement (the Church) that brought us the Bible. To me, Christianity began on the very first Easter morning with an empty tomb...!
These people were closest to Jesus. They followed Him, they lived with Him, they learned directly from Him, and they literally ‘experienced’ life with Him while He was on earth. The foundation of *their* faith, to me, *is* the foundation of the Christian faith.

All of us are born dead and in our sins, but faith and belief in Jesus is the only answer to our sinful condition. We can opt to believe in Jesus or not.

Those who believe in Jesus are given a new birth from God. All who receive Jesus and believe in Him become children of God. John 1:12

Faith is necessary to believing in God. With faith, we will not perish (John 3:16), but without faith, we will perish. When we believe in and receive Jesus, we are destined for eternal life. The free gift of God is eternal life in Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans 6:23

Whoever believes in Him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe (in Him) is condemned already because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God...whoever believes on the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him. John 3:18, 36

It’s our life choices, behaviors, and actions that prove God’s predictive knew-you-in-the-womb to be accurate.

To the first part of your comment, it seems that most non-Christians don’t have a problem with Jesus. They like Him. It’s ‘Christians’ that they have a problem with.
To the second part of your comment, even if one doesn’t believe that Jesus is the Son of God...following His teachings will make one’s life better, and following His teachings will make one better at life.

Yeah they like the nice guy who heals and feeds people just like the people of His time did.

Most hate... LOATH... the one who says He is Lord of all who retains His “right” as Creator to Lordship of all His Creation... also just like the people of His time did before they hung Him on a cross.

Belief relating to the god of the bible underwent modifications over time, the god of early OT times is not the same as later times, and quite different to the NT descriptions. People create their gods in the images of their hopes, fears and desires. Which still happens.

Regardless of whatever you think their reasons are, non-Christian people nowadays don’t seem to have a problem with Jesus. They do however seem to have a problem with ‘Christians’.I have not found that to be the case with non-Christian people nowadays at all.

Completely wrong! God never changes.

“I am the Lord, I do not change.” Malachi 3:6. Men change, God doesn’t. For 4,000 years, the Jews represent a memorial to the unchanging nature of God.

God has always been, and always will be, and will always remain the same. Men either follow God or follow their own devices.

Jesus is the same yesterday, today, and forever. Hebrews 13:8

That belief about the nature of God changed over time is not wrong. It is there for anyone to see and read. A tribal god, a god of war (verses say this) morphed into a God of Love. There are clear and undeniable differences in the nature of god between books.

To deny this requires cherry picking of verses, ignoring verses that do not conform with one's preferred image of God.

I'm thrilled good Christian men. This is a splendid thread.

Just keep following your own devices. Atta boy.

Ive read some enlightening scripture i hadnt remembered.

I had forgotten some of this. The scripture is good for correction. Humm.

From infancy you have known.... Humm.,

…15From infancy you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. 16All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for instruction, for conviction, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17so that the man of God may be complete, fully equipped for every good work.

Agreed. I enjoy all of the genuine engagement about this subject matter. Differences of opinion and interpretation are not a bad thing, they’re just a thing.

Paul wrote that. It doesn't count.

It counts if ya’ want it to. It doesn’t have to count if ya’ don’t want it to.