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The Forest Service has been actively deconstructing roads for the past decade and we always said there was going to be a price paid for that.

To add insult to injury looking at the sat photos the smokes what, 5-600 miles out to sea? As the weather changes in the next couple days yup, its going to all come back to us But hopefully followed by some rain from heaven. I hope there's enough to not just stall the fires but clean the air some

Same up here logger. Shut er down... leave it to nature we're done logging. I hope this gives them cause to rethink that stupid fuggn idea. The side spurs, sure deactivate no biggy but the main lines should ALL be kept open for at least a 4 wheel drive truck.

Two or three days of rain would change things dramatically. Cool the fires, mechanically scrub the air, make things annoying for protestors. All good things.

From the Linn County sheriff earlier this morning.. I was hoping to be off level II..

Linn County Sheriff's Office
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Sheriff Jim Yon and his Wildfire Emergency Operations team are grateful for the cooperation from all citizens in Linn County, as we work together to stay safe during these unprecedented times of wildfires in our area. “The level of care and giving, neighbor helping neighbor, is a true testament to Linn County, and what makes our community so special.”
Today, the wildfires both north and south in our county are holding in their areas, and crews are deployed to build containment lines, and quickly respond to new hotspots as they flare up in previously burned areas. We are continuing to work with Incident Command at both the Beachie Creek Fire, and the Holiday Farm Fire, and are closely monitoring the upcoming weather, wind patterns, and progress on fire containment. “We are hopeful that if the current conditions and great work by our fire crews continue, we will be able to downgrade our evacuation levels soon, and return people to their homes.”
The Sheriff’s Office is preparing a comprehensive list of resources to aide our community in the recovery from the wildfires. As we downgrade our evacuation levels, we will publish our Wildfire Recovery Resources. Stay up to date on all of the latest Linn County information by visiting our website at www.LinnSheriff.org


Then followed up just now,

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No changes or downgrades to current evacuation zones will take place today. We are monitoring conditions closely, and will continue to assess conditions for tomorrow.
Stay updated on all the latest information by visiting www.LinnSheriff.org, and following us on Facebook and Instagram.

The Beachie Creek fire was lightning cause on August 16th and by the the September 6 fly over it was 513 acres, all in the wilderness. It is now 186,000 acres, most of it not in the wilderness..

Some of that is a good thing if one likes salmon.

hard to get some groups on with the fact that a clearcut can be a good thing. Get in there, get the cut done, put the road to bed.

Roads left in, without maintenance like clearing culverts and such, fail and impact streams in pretty serious way, especially in areas with heavy winter rains. Just the time salmon are spawning or have spawned and eggs are in the redds.

Again, this is a money thing. No one wants to pay for the upkeep of those roads. But they want the roads open for recreational use and fire breaks. If the try to sell some timber to cover it, it gets tied up in court suits.

fugged up situation all the way around.

Geno up here they've got two standards. 1) Pull the culverts and leave wide ditches where they were that you can get through with a high clearance 4x4 truck, and, 2) Completely dig up the road and plant trees

I'm down with 1 but 2 not so much unless its a very steep hillside. I've done quite a big of salmon enhancement work back in the day so I see both sides of it. But these fire seasons are getting worse not better.

Salty,
like down here, it's probably money related too.

I will guess you're talking Crown lands? They probably have to deal with their own set of fudged up regulations, trying to please everyone and not doing a good job of pleasing anyone.

Still, everyone wants cheap building materials and loads of fish in the streams. But...........don't raise my taxes. Or the cost of a 2x4. (What the heck do you folks call them? 5cm x 12cm?)

While I would generally agree, especially being a salmon fisher, there will always be trade offs. We are facing a La Nina event this year in the NW so one can only imagine how much sediment is going to come rolling into the streams and rivers from the 100,000s of acres of now denuded landscape and it will to do so for years.

Yes public land or Crown land as its called up here makes up 95% of BC. So in a way you'd think it would be easier to manage for fires. But like you say try to please everyone equals everyone mad. LOL

And its a 2x4 damn it! You pretty much need to know both systems up here cause the ol metric system didn't make any headway in lumber and building.

Yep,

there's no easy solution.

Money help, but even on private timberlands where the company can spend what it needs to (should it decide that's the way to go) they still have issues.

No free lunch right logger? We did all right around here lots of protruding rock anchoring things down. But up country where its rolling hills of silty soils they're still suffering landslides and flooding from the huge 2018 fires. As you know trees and their live roots soak up tremendous amounts of water, slow the run off, and anchor the soil. Burn up the trees you've got a problem for years to come. Its starting to heal up from the worst erosion damages in year one but highways were still closed this spring due to slides and flooding.

Threw that cat under the bus didn't they? His replacement is a "she". Any bets she's a bull dyke politcal activist?

So, do you use a 623.68944 gram hammer or a 22 oz one to pound nails.

No fair saying you use a nail gun either.

Fish are another victim, of 30 years of poor forest management! The gravel bars will fill with sediment, eggs will suffocate, and the tribes will blame the farmers, for no fish! And the circle continues! Thats how it works out west, nowdays!

Ok this one's easy. A number 8 screw ahead of my Milwaukee cordless
My 16, 18 and 22 oz hammers are pretty much wall hangers any mo

The upper Clack is gonna be a clogged mess for years.

I still like nails.

And using a hand saw on occasion.

I even own and every once in a while use a brace and bit.