All over southern Oregon we have fires blowing up right now. The town of Ashland is literally on fire. People trapped on the roof, houses burning, WTF. The authorities are saying stay out, but facebook is blowing up. Yesterday we had clear skies and nothing. Today we had forecasts of 50 mph wind gusts and suddenly the whole world is on fire? We got fires scattered over 40-50 miles, no thunderstorms.

Anybody know what's going on?

Gender reveal parties?

Protesters out doing some bad stuff?

Sorry man. This year has seriously sucked. If the Dems win in November, I'm expecting the 7 seals.

We've got fires nearby, in Ashland, Eagle Point, Medford, Grants Pass, Merlin, Hugo.... All starting today or this afternoon.
*And Klamath Falls and Glide (near Roseburg)

Winds and super low humidity.

Toss in a few pyros I'm sure.

Maybe you should stage a peaceful protest

It's gotten really serious. Here's their local news for what it's worth.

https://www.kdrv.com/content/news/C...-wildfire-east-of-Ashland-572322261.html

Real dick comment. I heard about a guy trapped on the roof of his house, and it was on fire, in Ashland. Another lady trapped and calling for help on facebook.

Funny stuff huh jack?

20,000 acres gone up the North Umpqua with little control in sight. Smoke so thick that air attack is tough. Over 100 structures burned on the McKenzie. What bugs us is that none of these fires are lightning caused, all are human caused. In our area no one was working in the woods as we are in Level 4 (shut down) fire status. With the high winds, I will not be surprised to find that some of these fires were power line related. We have seen over 10 such fires in our county this year - and that was without the high winds and low humidity that occurred last night

Are these liberal strongholds or normal folk ?

Genesis 19:12

Blame Portland.

Maybe started by weed smokers?

Dang sad the wildlife and terrain has to suffer.

You had your chance. The [bleep] commies were in Portland telling you they were coming to the rural areas. You chose to wait them out, now they're at your front door. Should've done something while you had the chance

Yes.

Seasonality for your region.

Not sure why you are surprised?

Ashland is extremely liberal but none of the outlying areas are. I can't figure out where all the fires are and it's so sudden!

There are reportedly 25 or more uncontrolled fires going in California, alone. I don't think all of those just started naturally in nature.

Because they all started today, and they are scattered all over. Almost as if they are being deliberately set. Not saying they are, but we aren't the only ones asking WTF is going on.

Anybody really think they'd be satisfied just burning the cities?

Probably a few antifa whackjobs heaving Molotovs.

Jack can be a little....direct and short?

But I think he is telling you there is a great chance they are human caused.

But a phooking lighter?



On purpose.



By BLM/ANTIFA?


Or maybe, I'm just guessing wrong.

If you are on the roof of a burning house you are not trapped.

High winds, dry conditions, and September in the West Southern Coastal Region.

Seasonality.

It's all up and down state. High winds, warm, low humidity, no rain for a couple months. Just had fire truck go past the house to a new fire a few miles down wind.

Ballz being hysterical again, as usual.
Thank God concrete is non-combustible. Hate to see 4 months worth of missed work be all for naught.

This kind of deal sounds just like up here in 2018. Seasonality, yeah, but these one in 50 or a hundred year events are not fun at all. Hang tough folks I'm rootin for ya I hope you start getting some recovery at least over night till the rains come.

Next thing you know, folks in the Red River Valley wonder why the rivers rise and flood areas in the Spring run-off.

Or Hurricanes hit the Gulf in August and September.

Seems like a typical season here in north Idaho. Eastern Washington is burning as is part of the panhandle here. Clear skis though this year from the cabin.

They have already stated they would burn out farms, suburbs, rural towns, and such. They have already tried to buck up to a few small towns that didn’t stand for it. They are probably taking advantage of conditions.

You literally have to kill them as you can’t stay vigilant forever, they know this is a weakness.

Best thing is a shotgun, slugs or buckshot. Don’t leave your casings, tape a gallon zip loc bag to the receiver.

Also, a 220 swift with very frangible Projectiles.

Fuel load is over the top from Liberal/Dem piss poor forest management.

Trees burn, try stopping that and we get the current conditions.

Probably some delicious smoked spotted owl on the edges of the fires.

High winds knocking limbs down on power lines is the official story.

Fire up near Bayview now on Lake PDO

Low humidity.

High winds.

Plenty of dry fully-leaved trees and dry grass.

Ignition source.

Come on big talk, do something.

And there it is...

Multiple fires in areas effecting family. Been many years since big fires on the west Slope of the Cascades, like Mt Hood south to Santiam Pass. If the East Wnd continues, chit'll burn.

I've heard spotted owl makes a tasty fondue.

I have thought for years that if I was a terrorist wanting to do a lot of damage, all I would have to do it run around in late summer or early fall setting fires up in the timber.

Controlled burns are your friend but too late to consider.

Mebbe something muzzies are known to do.

Trump's still going to be your President after January. Must be upsetting huh?

Ain't so funny when it's yo azz on that roof....

I feel for you guys. We just survived the worst hurricane to hit Louisiana in 150 yrs. But, I think those fires are even worse.

DF

I'm sorry to hear it's so bad over there. My heart goes out to those people whose homes are in the path of the fires.

Could be just nature doing its thing. Fire is normal out west where it is dry and windy.

OTOH, AL Queda then ISIS warned us they'd use arson. Think they forgot about us during Covid? Nope, I don't think so. How about ANTIFA/BLM? They will take a page from anypnes's play book as long as it destabilizes society and law and order. They ARE anarchists, after all.

6 cars riding up and down the coast with ISIS or ANTIFA throwing lit cigarettes out the window when conditions are right will start on hell of a mess.



New ISIS video calls for arson attacks on U.S.
By Chuck Goudie and Barb Markoff, Christine Tressel and Ross Weidner
Tuesday, July 28, 2020


CHICAGO (WLS) -- A new video released by ISIS terrorists urges followers in America to begin a campaign of arson attacks. The four minute-long video is the first new marching orders in a long time from ISIS' propaganda wing, pushing followers to fight fire with fire, literally.

The animated tightly-produced video is entitled "Incite the Believers" and many of the scenes are engulfed in flames and, as with previous terrorist "message" videos, it encourages violent criminal acts against Western civilization. This time, ISIS is encouraging followers to start fires for maximum damage and carnage.


In Arabic, the narrator encourages followers to use cigarette lighters, matches and gasoline to start fires in places where they won't be detected in retribution for U.S. combat operations in Iraq and Afghanistan the past nearly two decades.

The focus on arson is similar to an Al Qaeda directive to its followers a decade ago, first reported by the I-Team, in which followers were told to use pick-up trucks and plow them into crowded sidewalks. The edition of a terrorist magazine then known as "Inspire" featured the skyline of Chicago with an article about turning regular vehicles into "mowing machines."


A few years later Al Qaeda urged individual jihadists to use kitchen knives, pressure cookers and other household products for their own one-person attacks on America. Perhaps in 2020, with fewer public places filled with people because of the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic, terror leaders are gravitating to arson because fires could find victims long after the terrorist has gone home and bring out first responders at the same time.

. Waiting you to grow a set like the kid from WI and roll into your Portland. Big stick
Or keep tending the roses

100,000 acre fire burning not too far from here. The "Cameron Peak fire" tripled in 3 days. Sunday and yesterday we were 98 degrees and raining ash under eerie, dark orange skies, and they were fighting fire tornadoes.

24 hours later, we are currently 27 degrees with 2 inches of snow on the ground here (and more than a foot on the fire just west) and the wildland fire fighters up there are camping in temps in the TEENS.

Crazy start to the fall, but hey, 2020 and all that.

Fire is powerful and takes no prisoners.

Maybe you can f*cj off.

What town south of Spokane burnt up?

callnum you crack me up. Talk about a liberal brain dead POS.

The #1 son is working that one.

W/o a covid mask and has never experienced temps in the teens, lol.

I saw that.

Malden is the town south of Spokane that burned to the ground. All the towns up the Santiam Canyon are under evacuation orders and a number of folks I know got out in the middle of the night and now all their homes are gone. Strong East winds last night with hot temperatures and trees blew down which took out powerlines and started the fires down here. I have a hunch the Santiam canyon will look like Paradise CA after a few days, totally wiped out with thousands homeless. The stable down the road is taking in horses that got out before it exploded and when they get full they will bring some up the hill to my place. The power company cut power to thousands of people on Mt. Hood last night to avaoid a situation like this but they didn't do it in the Santiam and the price to pay will be horrific.

+1

Part of Medford evacuating

This crap isn't arson, its not man made... its just the right conditions to a T...

all the towns here in Southern Oregon, are just little islands in the middle of Forests all over the place..

I lived here 25 years... this is the worst one I've seen develop in such a short period of time...

I am going to spend a lot of the night staying up and watching for any of this to change... for the worst...

This crap is up close and personal for the towns here in the Rogue Valley.. usually this stuff is way out in the woods..

xConditions are as such that this stuff is moving fast, there are a lot of them, and local resources are already over stretched..

This ain't nothing to laugh about or make jokes toward the people that have to deal with this... because each of us, has property, families and we are concerned about their safety.. growing up on the east coast, in Virginia, you folks have never seen anything like this back there...

its bad when they tell a couple thousand people to grab a pillow and blanket and get the hell out of their house RIGHT NOW!

Keeping him in our thoughts. I know some of those 800 fire fighters are bedding down here in town. If he or his teammates needs anything drop me a PM. My wife Kim and I have already run dinner to the Best Western in Hwy 34 for some guys this eve.

Please, let us know!

John, all this happened today. If it's not man caused, it's got to be what, downed powerlines, all over at the same time, from Glide to Ashland?

Thanks for the info. Fire in my home town area although currently burning away from folks I know towards Oregon City direction. Power out for some. Friend surrouned by forest packing up. Cousin has evacuated around Scio. Daughter downwind of the fure that burnt Mill City.


Wind bkew trees over powerlines bigly No lightning. Dry fugging hot East Winds are the curse in upoer Oregon Cascades.

My prayers go out to everyone affected by the wildfires. They are scary, fast, unpredictable and indiscriminate, they’re also a seasonal occurrence out west.

We just got a text that a cousin of my wife’s lost their “South Ranch” to the fires. We haven’t heard how many head of cattle they’ve lost or any details yet but these fires don’t care about your political affiliations.

I’ll be keeping the wildland firefighters in my prayers as I do every summer. That’s a hot, tough and physically demanding occupation and they all have my deepest admiration!

What a fuqking grade A asshat...Must be a heavy flow day for jackie.

Come on Roy, you gotta see where that was coming from.

You throw the “Stage a Peaceful Protest” at the guys from VA all the time. Even when their posts are of a serious nature.

Pot meets kettle sometimes is just what it is.

Back to the fires...My BIL is evacuating his family and horses now. Someone lit 25 acres on fire in Colton, OR.

He’s on his way to our house in PDX to stay until it’s safe to head home, if he has a home.

I wonder if our back yard will hold 2 horses?

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The fuel load is very much "man made".

Totally predictable situation.

And there are for sure Fire Bugs stoking the flames and lighting some fuses.

Roy, Kinda like Perfect Storm kinda conditions... High winds, low humidity, conditions dryer than hell....

I've been enjoying all the sunshine the last few months, but not its pay back time..

the winds are being caused by a high heat front over here... and there were heavy frost warnings up in the Cascades and over on Hwy 97 on the Klamath side of the hill....

same conditions reported in the forecast for tonight also....

Mother nature is faster than some S. Oregon Methheads and/or DemocRAT Antifa Wannabes....

Just heard my hometown has been evacuated. Fire west of it I previously mentioned before but there's something up in the mountains, upwind to the east, upper Clackamas River country. It's a brushy SOB lotsof places and there won't be containment. The wind will rule.

You seem surprised.

Most of us are not.

Simple...Some fûck’n Pyro saw an excellent opportunity to ignite a shît storm of pain on people.

There is zero chances that Oregon went from one small fire to several in 20 hours without someone’s hands on a bic lighter.

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PS

Arsonist can be shot if you see them attempting to light a fire that has reasonable chances of harming or killing others.

Here's live video of the fire burning in town in Phoenix Oregon with firefighters on audio

https://www.facebook.com/kobitv/videos/2790437481191592/

. Don't get to high on that hog, you are surrounded by the same type azzhats that are here! Eastern cities hold the majority of these azzhats! They just haven't got all the easy pickn's yet, because of the size of the cities, it takes longer to deplete the area! Don't let your guard down, they will burn your town!

We had power lines arcing in the area last night. With the wind blowing and as dry as it is it doesn't take much.

Fire about 3-4 miles from us, but down wind. Got go bags and paper records packed in case we get evac notice.. Also took pics of all the rooms of the house, just in case. Got the wife a little freaked.

They cut power to Placerville, Ca I believe today and tomorrow due to winds.

Crossed fingers and prayers for you Oregonians. We were sight seeing / visiting Bend when the big fires were south of there,Going home we drove by Crater Lake and couldn't see more than the edge of the lake from the observation areas.

Seems like every day here in Ca a new fire or two starts, no lightning in the 100+ degree days we have been having

We are in the most populated zip code in my area. 4800 people with 99.6% without power. We are still without power after 20 hours.

Tillamook PUD has elected to fix the outages to the small areas surrounding us and working their way to our bigger area last.

I can’t confirm this, but I figure the strategy is to get power to the outside areas first instead of going to the largest area in case sparking happens down the wires to outside, more remote areas.

IDK if that’s truly the case....Any old power linemen on here that can explain why light up small remote areas first, leaving the majority of residents and commercial businesses, including a hospital without power the longest?

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In late August driving up 97 the woods were red and orange, with a mix of green. I mentioned in a thread how bad it was. The Klamath area fire was started near the southern part of that beetle kill ! 6000 acres, burn in less than 24 hours! Still not under control. A good friend lives in the area, across the road less than half mill away. So far the fire has missed him. He did loose twenty or so neighbor houses. The area is forest land with ten acre lots. All gone!

In the 1880s there was the Santiam Fire (like where the Mill City one is) that burnt over 900000 acres... It is not typical to have soooo many. Much of the area has zero firebreaks. Dic heads decommissioned a bunch of the high country logging roads.

Even my stubborn old man is packing up to head to safer country. All my life, his and grandpa's before him, hot east wind and a fire on the west Slope east of home was the ultimate unknown. Damn.

Sounds like they just caught a guy starting fires. Trying to find out more.

Boomer, where’s old home in Oregon for you?

😎

Let us know, not seeing anything on the net!

Dimocrap patriots, and Muzzies (Fire Jihad). Sickers and Leroys and Northmams and Gayghosts buds. If Biden wins, it will be ok, until they take your guns away, then it will be cars, homes and women and 401K.
Hey, ask Leroy, its the patriotic way.

The Japanese tried to burn the west coast with their fire ballons! One killed a teacher and some school children, just east of town! The only casualties of war, on our mainland during WW2! Fire is an excellent weapon!

Prayers sent up for you Boomer as well as fireball, Beaver and any others affected by these flames, be they people in the path or those helping by fighting the fires and evacuating folks, etc.

Eastern Washington is burning right now. As far north as Omak and south to Oregon. As Mentioned above the town of Malden burnt to the ground. Several grain elevators in the surrounding area have burnt up along with 200,000 acres of crop, pasture, and timber. Just bad timing with the high northern wind, low humidity, and dry conditions. Just a bad deal this year,

Wow. Unreal. I figured it was just normal, seasonal conditions with folks understandably kinda paranoid about all the anarchists. Maybe there's something to it.

Prayers for you folks out there in harms way.

burning all the way from San Bernadino to Washington state. hot, dry, windy.

The fire down in Ashland started with a car that had an electrical short on I 5, earlier today...

As Roy mentioned them catching someone trying to start a fire.... I wish they would never had even acknowledged that..

instead someone just found a body burnt to a crisp, after the fire was put out... but it was evident, someone had put a bullet hole in his forehead....Arson, we need no trials etc....just waste em on the spot, let the fire take the evidence and let a body be found later....

Heard by one of my wifes co-workers that he heard on the police scanner that they have someone in custody.

The creek fire in the central California foothills has grown into a 170,000 acre monster.
It just started last Friday.
No containment in sight.

It’s destroyed hundreds of buildings and caused the evacuation of thousand of people as it encroaches on several small mountain towns.
Hundreds of campers got trapped and had to be airlifted out, leaving their cars, campers and boats to burn.

Some of you have seen my many posts and photos on trout fishing.
Two of the four lakes that I fish regularly have burned right up to the shoreline.
The other two are in jeopardy.
I hope the trout populations can survive the ash and charcoal in the water.

If you want to see some amazing and terrible photos, look up “the creek fire, Shaver lake Cailfornia”.

Some states are using the fires the get more federal aid.

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Roy, listening to the radio chatter, some of this is NOT Phoenix... they mentioned that the fire in the forefront was a grass fire , on Bear Creek Walkway, next to the Toyota dealer.... that is on McAndrews under I 5, and right south of Rogue Valley Mall... in North Medford...then they mention Butler Ford in No Ashland also, off the greenway... sounds like it is arson at different locations.. common denominator is the Bear Creek Walkway.....tons of transient camps.....Antifa people and NLM folks could have sneaked right in there and no one would have stopped them....

Maybe they are upping their game...maybe its time for locals to start pulling out their varmint rifles....

They are moving out of downtown Potlandia....and spreading this up and down the west coast, the closer we get to the NOvember election time....They've had a free pass by Kate Brown....so that is why they are picking Oregon to start this crap...

Live video of the fire burning up Phoenix Oregon. Heartbreaking to watch knowing how many people are being burned out.

Heard of Molalla and Estacada? That vicinity.


Three log decks burnt up at a mill in Libral (spelling) today, hwy 213. Don't know the current name of the mill. I dang near ended up working there when I was 18. Close call. There's an old wooden store there. My paternal grandparents met at a dance at the upper floor there, about 90 years ago. They honeymooned at Memaloose Lake, in the rain with wool blankets.

Was a member at Arrowhead golf club for a few years. Friend owned a filbert orchard there too. Shot a couple nice Blacktails on his property.

Yes Sir....I know Malala and Estacada.

😎

With the secret handshake, I can tell you more.

Christine Comello, aka Christine Smeton-Comello. An RN in Spokane. Arrested 7 hrs ago for starting several fires there..

The world has gone crazy.

Well good bye, bitch!

😎🖕🏾😎

Damn f*cking see what allowing arson all summer does? Time to bash heads.

Looks like about 20-30% of Clackamas County is under mandatory evac.

Unreal. It's amazing the amount of evil in the world.

Punishment for arson should be death by flamethrower. They’ll probably get released without bail though

After listening to the video Roy posted on FB, which is from Channel 12 locally.. its an hour and 15 minutes...

Its evident to me that Antifa and NLM is down here from Potland...

all of these fires are being set with a north to south distance of 17 miles... from Central Point to Ashland....

listening to Jackson County Sheriff's Dispatch, the common denominator is the Bear Creek Greenway, which snakes right and left of I 5.. a walking parkway that is 17 miles long... a lot of transient camps in and out all over the place...its an easy place to get into and egress with no one really noticing anything out of the ordinary....

its Antifa and NLM that are starting these fires and walking away....

and since the election is within 60 days or so...

This isn't going to end when the winds quite blowing...

Evidently they tried to do a big recruiting rally last weekend over in Rogue River..... my wife heard about that at the Hospital where she works... and normally stuff like this, the hospital knows this stuff, long before you read it in the paper or hear it on the news..

Might be a time to make sure one is packing ....to protect yourself and your loved ones...

Yes it is... just found this ... thought about the look on that woman's face..... I'll bet she started playing with an Ouija board a long time ago....

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20..._campaign=Top20ConservativeNewsSites2020



Demonic Possession at the Portland Riots
By Jim Hoft
Published September 8, 2020 at 4:45pm


The forces of darkness are winning the Battle of Portland because they have enlisted demonic help. In fact, it seems Antifa/BLM forces in Portland are operating under the command and control of Satanic Headquarters.



How Demons Operate
The spiritual world is legalistic. Demons are allowed to tempt humans. If the human, exercising free will, responds to the demonic prompts, trouble ensues.



Adam C. Blai is the Peritus of Religious Demonology and Exorcism for the Catholic Diocese of Pittsburgh and one of the leading lay experts on demons in the United States. He has assisted ordained priests in dozens of solemn exorcisms and hundreds of less severe cases.

In his book, Hauntings, Possessions, and Exorcisms, Blai provides basic facts about human-demon interaction.

Demons are fallen angels.
The spiritual world is legalistic.
God makes the rules, and spirits cannot break them.
Humans exercise free will in choosing whether or not to respond to demonic overtures. This free will permits humans to surrender their legal rights to demons.
Demons are limited to whatever legal rights people have given them by their free-will choices.
The free will choices of parents for their children can provide legal rights for interactions. Parents can turn over their children’s bodies to demons.
There are five types of spiritual cases, but the two types that seem to be at work in Antifa/BLM are oppression and possession.
Once a person has surrendered his legal rights to demons, only God can restore the person’s freedom and only with the will and consent of the oppressed or possessed.

Normal Demonic Oppression and Possession
In most cases of possession, the possessed do something to surrender some legal rights to demons. Actions that can invite demonic influence include participating in a seance, play with an Ouija board, ask some “spirit” of nature to assist them in finding a job, meeting a mate. But mere sinfulness, neglect of prayer, or wishing for temporal gains can open the door to evil spirits.

Once we crack the door to the diabolic, demons exploit this invitation to demand we surrender even more rights to them. The possessed wants to be free from the demonic possession but is afraid of the demons. Michel Chiron, an educator in an institute for the mentally disabled, explains the process.

Feeling lonely after a divorce, Chiron decided to seek “answers” with a pendulum and Scrabble letters. Having fallen away from the Catholic faith of his youth, Chiron turned to the “spirit” world for help. He told National Catholic Register in a 2019 interview:

But one day, the letters said: “Now, we won’t need the pendulum anymore. We will talk to you directly, from inside you.” And I immediately heard weird voices coming from my head, from my chest and throat. They wanted to show me they could totally control me. At some point, they said, “It is the devil speaking.” I was so afraid. I trashed the pendulum right away and went immediately to bed. I slept like a brick. When I woke up, they started playing with me. “Yesterday we scared you, but now we will tell you the truth,” they said.

At this point, Chiron was demonically oppressed. He was scared. Demons were now communicating with him from the inside. Soon, Michel Chiron’s bad dream of oppression would turn into a full-time nightmare of possession.

I don’t know how many spirits were inside me, but they were definitely an impressive number. They said they were sent by their “king” and described themselves as part of the “first kingdom.” There was a hierarchy. In the beginning, they described themselves as spirits of anterior lives and not as demons, of course. I asked them many questions, especially how they were formed. We had a dialogue. They said: “You don’t know that, but we are made of ions, of particles.” They also told me things about my life and childhood, things I totally forgot. They had a full access to my brain and memory.

Soon, the demons compelled him to act out in public.

They said their program was to transform me so that I could have “potentialities.” Such potentialities were clearly diabolical, but I didn’t know that at that time. They said I had been chosen for that. It was crazy. They said that such potentialities were meant to help me bring more people to their king.

[T]hey would ask me to hold a card deck, and they would always guess which card I was about to pick. Then, after about 10 days, it became worse. The real nightmare began. They began making me stick out my tongue, and there was nothing I could do. The first time they did it, it lasted more than 30 minutes. And I felt tingling sensations in my head, just like thousands of ants trying to bite me. They really tormented me. One day, while I was eating, my palate started bleeding. I couldn’t eat, it was so painful, and I couldn’t eat anything tough. For about a week, I couldn’t eat anything but soft food.

To learn more about Chiron’s possession, exorcism, and eventual escape from demonic possession, read ‘I Was Possessed’: How One Man Was Freed From Satanic Possession at National Catholic Register.

Michel Chiron’s story is of a “normal” possession. Though Chiron invited demonic influence by dabbling in the occult, he immediately regretted his mistake. It took over a decade to break free from the evil spirits, but he never entirely gave into the demonic. He did not worship their “king.”

But not all cases of possession are like Chiron’s. There are people who, not only invite demonic presence into their lives; they voluntarily surrender their whole bodies, wills, minds, and souls to the devil. They refuse any divine assistance or offers of deliverance prayers. They never seek the help of the Church. This voluntary complete surrender to the preternatural is called “perfect possession.”

LA Cop Turned Demonologist
Jesse Romero, the author of Devil in the City of Angeles, is a Catholic speaker and demonologist for the Archdiocese of Los Angeles. Romero is a former LA County Sheriff detective. Since retiring from LACO, Romero, like Blai, has assisted in dozens of exorcisms. He has met at least two perfectly possessed people. According to Romero,

“Perfect possession” describes a state in which a person not only freely invites a demon to possess him, but also cooperates, with full consent of the mind and will, in the demon’s malicious desire to destroy God’s Kingdom and children.

Romero’s first encounter with a perfectly possessed person came in his early days as a cop. Romero was assigned to the LA County Jail’s Mentally Ill Offenders Unit. One of the prisoners in that unit was the infamous “night stalker” killer, Richard Ramirez.

In his cell was “The Satanic Bible,” which he read every day, and a stack of pornographic magazines about two to three feet high. His conscience was dead, no doubt, as a result of what he read…After he was convicted . . . and free to talk about his case, he told me that he had been ordered to kill these women by Satan, whom he called his father. He would admit this quite readily to the deputy sheriffs in jail (after he was convicted). He had a tattoo of a pentagram on his hand, and on his way of court every day, he would flash the tattoo and make a satanic sign with his hands (the devil’s horns) for the cameras every day. This is known as perfect possession, when the person makes a pact with the devil with his intellect and will.

We’ve learned that demons know everything about people, communicate directly with human hosts and each other and that human means of surveillance cannot intercept them.

Soon we will see how demonic command and control could be coordinating Antifa/BLM’s sustained siege of Portland and sporadic attacks in other cities across the country. But first, we need to look a bit deeper into demonic communications.

Demonic Communication and Vision
I ask Thee to bind in Thy Blood all of their attributes, aspects and characteristics, all of their interactions, communications and deceitful games.

— Ripperger, Father Chad A.. Deliverance Prayers: For Use by the Laity (p. 18). Sensus Traditionis Press.

Deliverance prayers are specific, formulaic prayers written by Catholic exorcists and approved by bishops for requesting divine assistance in removing demonic influence from a person’s life. Some deliverance prayers are reserved for use by priests while performing solemn exorcisms under a bishop’s direction. Some, however, are approved for use by the laity.

Father Chad Ripperger has compiled these prayers for the laity into a small book, Deliverance Prayers for Use by the Laity. These deliverance prayers have common themes. Among them:

Prayers to blind demons.
Prayers to isolate demons.
Prayers to cut off demonic communication with each other.
Once the demons cannot communicate and coordinate, they become much easier to control, bind, and cast out by prayer and fasting.

Therefore, deliverance prayers ask God to blind demons from seeing what we humans are doing and thinking, and from communicating with each about our activities and thoughts. As long as demons are free to communicate, plan, and coordinate, man is at their mercy.

As we will now see, even experienced combat veterans cannot compete with demonically controlled people.

Intel from Combat Experts
Three decorated, armed combat veterans were recently incapacitated and nearly killed by Antifa/BLM terrorist in Portland. The three were surprised, overwhelmed, beaten, and chased 11 blocks by armed, trained, and coordinated enemy combatants right here in the USA. Special duty Portland police officers witnessed the beating and chase, but the police could do nothing to stop it.

How could this happen? How could Antifa terrorists be better trained and equipped in communications, surveillance, and tactical execution than a United States Marine?

Perhaps the USMC and the police are fighting the wrong battle with totally inadequate weapons and tactics.

One Marine’s account of his painful, frightening, and humiliating encounter with Portland’s children of darkness sounds like an encounter with demons and the possessed.

The Marine who wrote this warning was with the Marine’s 1st LAR 0311 from the early to late 2000s. Since then, he has been a contractor, presumably in security. His summary of the encounter begins:

Me [sic] and three of my buddies were in Portland this weekend, got attacked by Antifa. There’s a Twitter video with millions of views on it. They ended up on Hannity and Tucker Carlson, Ben Shapiro, etc., of us getting beaten with bats and rocks the size of cantaloupes thrown at us, getting spit on etc. We were all carrying pistols as well. Opportunity, ability and jeopardy, we were in a deadly force situation and we could easily articulate the use of deadly force, but they had pepper sprayed us. They were using industrial strobe lights on us, etc. We couldn’t PID [positively identify] our target and what lied beyond it, They [Antifa/BLM] did a great job of taking our situational awareness away, it was [bleep] incredible.

Bro my perspective on this changed so much.

The three veterans were in Portland for interviews to become Portland police officers, not to confront rioters. They asked and received permission from the police to witness the riots that they might soon be facing as rookie Portland police officers.

But in all the training that I’ve been through my life, I’ve never been in one where in the first five seconds of the scenario you’re blinded with a strobe light and sprayed with pepper spray…. That changes everything*.

They were throwing these rocks from 15 feet back in the crowd, you couldn’t see who the [bleep] through it, etc. things like that…. It’s just a good talking point for guys that carry concealed, but you need to think through all these different scenarios.

The part that sounds like aspects of an exorcism begins at this point.

It got way worse after that video ended, they chased us for 11 city blocks. They had a convoy of about 25 vehicles that cut us off at the next intersection, They had scouts on the corner with radios, they had a drone following us, they had a bull horn calling us Nazis, and the crowd was following a red strobe light that was up in the air on a stick, so they would announce Nazis and then people would follow the red strobe light, That video is just the beginning, I’ve got a [bleep] fractured hand from a baton, everyone of us has black and blue bruises up and down their legs and back, I had a guy spit in my face from 6 inches away, call me a pussy and a coward for not doing anything about it, and then tell me that he was going to find where I live, rape my mother, rape my children in front of me and then kill me.

As we were running from the crowd after about the third block or so, we’re sprinting because the mob head caught back up to us and vehicles were trying to cut us off, I put my hand on the back strap on my appendix, And I heard somebody yell “Hey bro, whatever you’re reaching for, don’t reach, just keep running, they’re still 30 feet behind you. Keep running straight

The three learned that Portland police had been observing their assault and chase all along.

We get 11 blocks down the road and this black Chevy Impala is ghosting us down the street, he’s kind of been in our shadow since block two or three He rolls his window down and starts asking us a bunch of questions. Why are we here, what are we doing, telling us we need to get the [bleep] out of here, asking us where our car is etc., we pretty much told him to get the [bleep] away from us because we didn’t know who he was. I finally asked him at one point, Who the [bleep] are you, man, you need to leave us alone, and he was like I’m the [bleep] police, bro, who are you? So he pulled his car over and he and his partner talked to us. He was one of the special programs guys, either with SWAT or SRT or whatever. He was the one that yelled at me not to reach, and tried to help us out. He said he knew that we’ve been pepper sprayed and we’re having trouble seeing, I kind of snapped at him, Like hey [bleep], You’ve been watching this whole thing [bleep] unfold and you didn’t intervene at all or light the crowd up or something? He started laughing and he was like, Man, if I got out and tried to help you guys, my [bleep] car would be on fire right now, and I’d be running next to you.



We Need to Level the Battle Field

The Antifa/BLM forces seem to be under the command and control of demonic forces. Humans are no match for demons. Better tactics and equipment will not turn the tide. We must fight their spiritual fire with the power of God through prayer. We must humbly accept that, as the lowliest of God’s creatures, we are the mercy of the spiritual world.

While prudence requires that we prepare ourselves physically for encounters with evil, survival demands that we turn over the battle plan to God as thousands of St. Louisans did when our iconic statue of St. Louis IX, King of France, came under attack this summer.

When a fringe group of anti-Christian radicals threatened to topple the St. Louis statue on Art Hill in St. Louis’s Forest Park, Christians did not take up arms; we took up Rosaries.

From June to September, sometimes dozens, sometimes hundreds of Catholics and supportive non-Catholics prayed peacefully, ignoring the taunts from the children of darkness. We surrendered the outcome to the Holy Will of God and (up to this point) prevailed.

How many people are praying for the good to prevail in Portland? In Rochester? In Denver? What would happen if thousands or millions of Americans recognized that “our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms?” (Ephesians 6:12)

What would happen if we were to put down our guns and “put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand?” (Ephesians 6:13)

Perhaps it’s time to call in the cavalry of heaven so that we can “Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.” (Ephesians 6:14-17)

The struggle in America is of human origin, but one side has called in superior air support. Let’s level the battlefield by begging help from the Angels of God, from Our Lady Queen of Victories, from the entire heavenly host. For, as St. Paul reminds us, our struggle is not against flesh and blood.

I believe Steve Timm used a shooting range near Estacada. We stayed at a VRBO up the hill from Estacada when we fished oversized Sturgeon on the Columbia, very heavily wooded area. A lot of Christmas tree sized Pines where we stayed, I suspect the area was clearcut several years before we were there.

Sad if correct on them setting fires, but not a surprise, unfortunately.

Geeze. Heard one part, all the way from Estacada to like Silverton, South of Hwy211! Some bitch. Clackamas County is 1883 square miles.

That's Douglas Ridge.

The area has from possibly mature third growth, 4th growth reprod to 500 year old growth. Forest Service high, then a mix of blm but mostly private timberland down lower to where it mixes with old ag lands and suburban sprawl. Ripe for flames. .

you sure love to virtue signal

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Elisa_Lam

You might find this interesting. The hotel where this girl was staying and subsequently was found, has a long, sordid history, including being where Ramirez resided during several of his murders.

Power just restored after 25 hours...Golf clap 👏

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Good. May your frozens stay frozen. Thinking I needs me a generator.

Winds? Any signs of it returning to onshore flow?

Calm and 30F here.

Just got word from the BIL who has a place in Colton, OR that he finally got all the animals out to safety.

He’s got an awesome home with 4 recently finished outbuildings, horse stalls, custom shop/garage and a wood working shop.

Clackamas County said they can’t fight the two fires that merged at the moment due to it’s speed from wind.

BIL thinks his place might be gone by mid morning.

2020 has been a real mofo. Come on Trump!

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Sorry to hear that. I hope he's wrong and it doesn't get his place. If he's right I hope he's got great insurance.

Have any details, specifics as to which two fires, say in relation to Colton, what's burning? Is it the Hillock Burn (an area of a historic fire ) area and the Unger Rd fires?

Years back I predicted that rural fires would be the next terrorist device.

High impact
High yield disruption
Property value loss
Resources lost
Lives lost.
Low cost, low chance on being caught

Yesterday, just south of the Oregon border at Happy Camp CA a forest fire was reported at 150 acres, almost immediately the town was ordered evacuated, which is strange, the original fire was reported to be about 12 air miles away. This morning they are reporting the fire "exploded to 22,000 acres"....I have never heard anything like that in my life. Hoping it is a misprint. I don't know much about terrorists or demons, but I do know a little about steep country and heavy timber, and the sparse info provided defies credibility that high winds or not, I have never heard of a fire blowing up that fast downslope during the day. We shall see.

If people are setting these fires, there needs to be a massive investigation on the federal level.

Not only is committing arson on this scale an act of terrorism, it is an act of WAR.


Problem is, after seeing the even the low hanging fruit remaining on the communists trees, I don't have faith in the justice system anymore. None at all.

Any justice to be had, we be at the hands of patriots.

No, high winds will spread it like a SOB. 22000 is only 34 sq miles. 2 miles wide, 16 long could literally happen in a couple of hours.

Damnit, math, lol, 17 long!

It all depends on the dryness of the fuels, humidity levels and wind speed. Several years ago the Stouts Creek fire burned six miles in six hours in steep, timbered country. It started six miles south of us, but burned south and not north. During critical fire times, we go on alert when a fire is within 15 miles of us. We are in that situation today.

Be careful.

Just got up. Any overnight news?

Read that Edgewater Church in Grants Pass is open for refugees. Also that the Chevy dealer in Ashland spent the night transporting nursing home residents to safety. Kudos to them.

Inciweb hasn't caught up. None of those are showing yet. Any word yet on how they got started?

Yes, they can spread like that if conditions are right. Read up on the Fire of 1910. In only 3 days, it burned 4700 square miles in north Idaho, WA, MT, and BC.

480 fires in Oregon

https://katu.com/news/wildfire-season-2020/wildfires-prompt-evacuations-across-oregon-sw-wash

And shortly after 12:30 a.m. Wednesday, emergency alerts were sent to phones saying the Level 3 -- GO NOW -- evacuation areas had expanded.

Residents south of Oregon 211 Estacada to Woodburn were ordered to evacuate immediately. And residents northeast of Oregon 224 from Clackamas River to Wildcat were warned to get ready to evacuate.

Most of the southern half of Clackamas County is now under a Level 3 -- GO NOW -- evacuation order.

It just seems to me that if we can afford a Space Force, we should be able to afford a fire force. Instead of moving all the military planes out of harms way, why can’t we retrofit some of them with water and fire retardant dropping capability? We are paying for those aircraft and pilots anyway just sitting there. Why not? I can’t imagine the frustration of being a fire fighter out there on the line in those temperatures with nothing but a shovel or a hoe facing that kind of extensive fire in those rugged conditions.

That's mind boggling.

The pilots currently flying the fire fighting planes get 500 dollars per hour. They might not like the Air Force taking their jobs. I had a cousin who did it. 250 per hr just being on call. Edk

For example, he said the Riverside Fire exploded in size to 10,000 acres and moved 17 miles just Tuesday.


Some more news.
https://www.oregonlive.com/weather/...oregon-wildfires-prompt-evacuations.html

Big fricking bunch of country.

Info may be erroneous as to smaller fires. Much hyperbole on the net. For every comment like Home Depot burned down, another comment says it's still there. Hard to sort it all out! One thing is certain, Oregon is burning up from the Columbia river to California and it cannot be a coincidence, IMO.

Ain't no shovel and hoe about it. Maybe if the winds stop they might be able to do something proactive, but not before.

There's some chatter about a red pickup being spotted near three of the fires but I haven't read anything specific about it.

Just finished loading the truck and utility trailer. Water, food and clothing. Heading north to drop off at the casino, the gathering place for evacuated people of the two- four-two fire! If you have time, help with the needs in your community!

God bless you all, praying for your safety and your property. We had in Arizona some years ago the Rodeo-Chedeski fire that destroyed thousands of acres of the Mogollon Rim, including towns and other properties.

It was actually two large fires merging into one. Each started by an individual. On the west side it was a gal who was lost and started a signal fire with her spare tire. On the east side of was a native American from the nearby rez who wanted to get paid as a firefighter.

Arsonists should be hunted down quick and swift justice served. If it is indeed terrorist related, the feds need to pull out all stops and put the hammer down.

Also heard this morning that the McKenzie River corridor is burning out of control. The most beautiful recreational land in Oregon. I grew up hunting blacktail and black bear there, picking huckleberries in the high country, bowhunting elk, fishing for oversized rainbows. Fire going right up the river as I understand it, but sounds like it started down low near Springfield in town and is following the wind up the west slope of the Cascades.

Usually these forest fires start in the timberlands, not in town. Seems to me there's an awful lot of residential and commercial land fire interface with most of these fires which is far above the norm. If true, that would seem to indicate someone is deliberately setting them to inflict damage. At ths point, that's just my opinion. Time will tell.

Y'all stay safe out there and be ready to get the hell outta Dodge as necessary!

There might have been a better way for you to help other than starting a thread. That is if you're healthy and able to do so.

The McKenzie fire started upriver and is burning towards town..

Thanks Santiam.

Authorities specifically asked people to stay out of the affected areas. We also read there were fires near us so we weren't sure if we would need to prepare. Now it doesn't seem like there are, but ???

One thing I learned since yesterday is that information is all over the map. I tried relaying what I was finding as it was happening but there's a lot of false information out there so it's hard to know what's really happening. There are tons of people in Medford asking for information on the situation in their back yards and they can't get it. It's been hard to track.

junkie

Huge clearcuts are what saves forest by providing new growth ,green undercarriage,better hunting and eliminating dead old growth that supports forest fires.But the greenies know better.

Nothing to do with old growth. ^^^^^ Roughly five percent of the PNW USA old growth remains. One does not have to have a mouth full of granola to see value in it... But, otherwise yes.

"Usually these forest fires start in the timberlands, not in town. Seems to me there's an awful lot of residential and commercial land fire interface with most of these fires which is far above the norm. If true, that would seem to indicate someone is deliberately setting them to inflict damage. At ths point, that's just my opinion. Time will tell."


Well Roy, if some are power line related, such would be the case. Bunch of arson, possible too. No, this wasn't lightning up in the Old Cascades this time around for sure.

Personally, from so far, I can't get specific enough details. Family is all safe, property all at risk, buddy on a fire engine in Clackamas County.... It's a matter of the winds what the day will bring.

Keep safe.

Yep. Every 50 years or so we get conditions that are just right for these blow-ups. That's what's happening now. With the winds the way they are now no clear cut would stop it. Fire can jump miles from embers.

Wonder why there isn't an increase in fires in BC? the border doesn't stop wildfires, same conditions as in Washington state. I can believe someone starting fires, I have seen that before.

Roy:

I just talked to my nephew in Medford. His home is in the level 3 evac area (south west Medford), but now seems ok in that area. Home Depot did not burn down, but the fire did burn through the center of Phoenix and took out the supermarket and then down South Pacific Highway (old 99). Burned out the Harley Davison dealer which likely means that my long time friends that owned the BMW motorcycle shop (the Hansens) also lost their business. Late last night another fire popped up just north of the Rogue Valley Mall (again just off the greenway), but they seem to have that under control. I assume that we will see more actual information being delivered as part of the normal morning briefings that are held during large fire events.

Fewer powerlines, fewer people?

BC isn't full of antifa and BLM idiots, and doesn't have a critical national election happening in 60 days...

plus BC doesn't have communists who call themselves democRATs and are trying to destroy your country from within...

This.

Well, we do, and alot of them.

Hoping for some good luck with the winds today...Like it stops!

Fire is getting close to BIL property.

Anyone know if Clackamas County is able to really fight these fires, or is the wind still making it difficult.

Wind are around 15 MPH here on the coast right now and have been for a few hours.

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BIL just txt’d...The fire crews are letting it burn due to winds.

Some nice properties out in Colton, Oregon.

Hope everyone catches some luck today and stays safe.

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Prayers sent.

I wouldn't put setting these fires past them.

If he's taking his own advice, Jackmountain is already out there mounting pre-emptive strikes against the East Coast liberals. Should be getting reports of corpses littering the streets any day now.

Sad to hear 673.... but BC doesn't have elections coming up in NOV do they?

I maintain, what has been happening in Oregon in the last 24 hours is heavily increased by Antifa/NLM

There are highly trained military planners who are directing these clowns...Whether domestic or brought in from elsewhere by their handlers...

Lets just hope it stops at the border, for Canada's Sake..

This all shows what happens when a society gets too much tolerance for those that threaten you society and your way of life..

the strongest thing our enemies have are our sides/ societies weakness via "Tolerance"...

history has proven, the best way to deal with a communist is for them to be shot...

Most of them started one night when we had dry lightning in CA.

US forest service said the fires in Northern California that started in last 3 days were started by lighting. Most of those fires are on

US Forest service land, so they are in charge of fighting fire. The others are being Fought by CALFIRE, with help of National Guard, and

Many others that have mutual add agreements. Plus firefighters from out of state. The North Complex fire moved 40 miles in 24 hours,

The fire fighters had to just get out of the way. Good news is winds are down today. The National Guard in California has all of the CH47 flying

Rescuing people, and many of the black hawks. Plus many of there heliocopters can drop water. CALFIRE has a whole fleet of surplus aircraft

That can drop water. Plus the ones they have contracts with.

We have some friends and family that we’re told to GTF our in northern and southern OR. Serious stuff. Lots of tinder and wind don’t mix well.

This fire is now called the North Complex Fire. It started as 3 fires started by lighting. The Sheep fire, Claremont Fire, and the Bear fire. But they burned

together and now are just called North Complex fire. Current size of fire is estimated at 58,000 acres. Yesterday at one time it moved 15 miles in 5 hours.

We're on level 2 evacuation notice. Only problem is, where the hell do you go? Fires to the east, west, north, and south of us.

A few of these would be a game changer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygXto9jdQP0

Same story here in the mid valley. Any highway out leading to possible clear air has been closed but the 58. I heard this morning that there may be new fires up there now as well

565 K acres burned in Wa St so far.

Well, wife got a report this morning from a guard at a federal facility in Medford that has been monitoring the police scanner. If you can believe what he posted on facebook they have arrested five antifa members for setting fires.

I will need to see verification but that is what was posted.

If this comes out and is true, I wonder how our governor and the mayor of Portland will play it since they let this schit go unchecked for three months and now this has happened. I'm working but will try to post anything we can dig up tonight.

You can come here if you can get out. We have room and we're 25 miles from the fires.

Just got back from dropping off supplies to evacuees at the casino! Heading to get a 4 horse trailer and bring cows to town, and pasture in suburbs. Helping friends has been rewarding this morning!

Someone forgot to rake the forest

https://oregon.arrests.org/search.php?fname=Jedediah+&lname=fulton&fpartial=True

Florida.

I think I’d rather burn to death.

Just had an update on the Archie Creek fire 13 miles to the north of us. It consumed 72,000 acres of forest land in 12 hours.

I just spit gas station sushi all over my computer.....

Your wish has been granted! Enjoy.

Conditions totally suck here at home right now (Clackamas County). Prayers sent for all of the wonderful
campfire members who life in Southern Oregon and every are affected by this horrific fire.

God Bless,

Steve

Turn the fire hose on them.

Steve,

Glad you’re doing ok (so far).

Take care,
Travis

Looking like the nightmare may come true for my BIL in Clackamas County and his home. He made a last trip to the property to gather essential paperwork and set a sprinkler on his roof.

He said it was eerie driving in and won’t be going back. His pal at the Sheriffs dept said it’s not looking good for the properties where his home and outbuildings are located in Colton.

It’s still windy, temps to reach 95* today and fire fighters can’t work with the dangerous conditions.

In the end, it’s just stuff, but when it’s your stuff, it absolutely matters and hurts.

Wishing all in a fire evacuation zone the best.

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Ha!

I recall seeing bumper stickers (on logging trucks in the Forks, WA vicinity):

"Save a tree, wipe your azz with a spotted owl"

Pork Rhine’s ain’t sushi big guy.

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Interesting conversation I came across...

I fear my family cabin is gone. Reports are sketchy and nobody is allowed up there with the fire still burning but it don't look good.

Damn..

Condolences to your Brother in Law and your family, if they have truly lost their home and everything in it...

I hope no one else connected to anyone on the campfire has to endure this...

MW,
I’m sorry man...I’m still gonna hope your family cabin makes it.

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Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. My family has a home in Yarnell, Arizona and we experienced what you all are going through now during the Yarnell fire. I have no doubt some of these fires were caused by lightning but I also have no doubt the blm and Antifa enablers saw an opportunity to capitalize on it and increase the destruction.

I doubt it.

That's a fun website! LOL. Don't see any arrests for arson there.

We haven't been as dry in BC this Summer as previous years. We also had much of the timber prone to this kind of fire burn up several years ago. If it stays dry like it has for the last few weeks we might see some more starting up. Time will tell.

Reckless burning and interference with firefighters, etc
However, my apologies, I didn't realize that arrest was from earlier this summer.
The site is useful. I make a habit of perusing my local sheriff's roster a couple times a week. If I see a new face I use the linked site to see if they have priors and where they are from.

Hope and pray for the best for you folks out there.
There better be some serious Federal punishment if any of this is connected to any of those organizations.
Be safe guys

A few pics of western Oregon taken in the last 2 days


McKenzie River


On the highway near Salem at noon.


West slope of Mt. Jefferson.

My wife is in Tigard and there is a fire 15 minutes from them and a fire that started the day before at Mt. Hood. I saw some news clips from Ashland and it looked awful.

I’ve heard from someone in OR that it’s high winds affecting power lines, along with high temperatures.

Some bitch!


I have family that evacuated from one place, now forced from another fire 20 miles away.

Used to hunt there. That area will be great hunting in about four years.

That's what has started some of them. Other's they aren't sure about, yet.

I just heard my pastors daughter in law lost one of her parents in the fire and her 12 yo brother panicked when the house caught fire and ran into the woods that were ablaze. No word on if they can even search for him or his body yet. I got a call from a friend who is helping at the state fair grounds which is where folks took the horses they could get out and she said they needed wheelbarrows and pitchforks since everyone lost all their gear in the fire. Went to the feed store and bought wheelbarrows and forks and took them over and as soon as I stopped they grabbed the things and started cleaning stalls. They are trying to find a vet who is open to come treat burns and injuries suffered during the fire and evacuation. I saw all that and decided I have a few gun projects that need to go to a new home to raise some money for a little assistance to these poor people.

If any one of you see someone lighting these fires i hope you shoot them on sight !!

Where did this happen?

We read about that last night. Wasn't this up northern Oregon somewhere?

Dang. Sorry to hear this.

Santiam fire outside of Lyons.

https://www.statesmanjournal.com/st...night-but-were-not-out-woods/5754242002/

Another fire started at the Medford airport just a few minutes ago. Already threatening Costco.

Any Clackamas County fire info appreciated.

Any confirmation that Cave Junction area is being evacuated?

A friend who lives in Redland outside Oregon City had to evacuate this morning in a hurry. He's not sure if his place is going to survive but he was able to relocate his horses and cows before he left but not his chickens.... Kentucky fried when he gets home, I guess....

This is insane....

Bob

Good luck man.

Just been going through local news sources for the Clackamas County stuff. Pretty much everything I knew growing up is ablaze, evacuated or in threat.

Some elderly family left thier home, went 20 miles to Carus area then got directed to leave there. Trying West Linn. They're safe, but property sure ain't. There are a hell of a lot of individual fires. Libral, Carus, Redland, Whilhoit, Hillock, Clackamas River, Santiam, Scio, SOME Bitch. Several more too.

I'm going to believe they've been set until it's proven otherwise.

Some jackweed in a Suburu blocking fire response trucks. People responses- Shoot him, run him over.

Little boy died.

Takes a few minutes to download and activate,but this map is very interesting..Unfortunately, I am now in a green area. Light snow falling now,or at least it looks like snow.

https://gis.co.linn.or.us/portal/apps/View/index.html?appid=46e1d572cc414cdfaa002f4af75ba614

I doubt any fire truck with a standard issue bumper would hesitate to push that fugger out of the way, preferably down a cliff. Son's rural station uses theirs to crash gates if it is impeding egress to a fire. When they do site visits, they tell the locked gate owners they will crash them if they don't get a key or combination, most give them a way to open vs ram their gate. Some need to be told it isn't just your home they are protecting if they need access to get ON their land. We have plenty of city folk who get a 5 acre parceled home and learn they need to maintain their property vs just letting grass/ weeds grow to feed a fire.

Prayers for all affected, bad news on the folks lost.

And welcome back Steve, hope all is well.

Just returned from moving cows for a friend in the 2 4 2 fire area, hauled water food and clothing this morning! Now I see more fires popping up on the west side! I sure hope the wind dies down, and fighters get a handle on this madness!

Just saw video of Detriot on the news. Looks like my cousin's restaurant, The Cedars, is gone as well as large sections of town.

My response of controlled burning last night was out of line. I did not realize the seriousness of these fires at that time. Prayers for safety and protection of all!

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Just read the link above and it clarified a few things. The boy died as did his grandmother while mom is critical. Dad was gone to find a generator since he had heard high winds were coming and possible power outages. I can not imagine his grief, regret and hurt.

It's a strong man that will admit error, especially around here.

You're a good man.

Damn.

Federal and State land-use practices are have come home to roost. Mother Nature has the final say - other than an occasional arsonist or two. But it's a good thing the "greenies" preserved all of that!

A big one started in Trinity County California too. It started near the Flying Double A Ranch. Garberville and a bunch of other little communities are under mandatory evac orders. I've heard it joined with another one that was already burning.

Going to be a lot of PO'ed dope growers.

Just asked my young adult daughter in Salem if folks think people are starting more fires. Yes, and they're heading out of the area.

I apologize if this has already been posted.

Interesting link: https://fsapps.nwcg.gov/afm/activefiremaps.php

Prayers for you guys out west.

Damn, there's more than just powerlines going on here.

Southern Oregon arrest

Reports of fires set at the Selmet foundry in Albany. Two guys on dirt bikes and one in a mini Cooper

Would "reckless burning" qualify as a felony there?

Oh I see the M as the level....schit

I would like to see a shoot on sight order issued immediately

That would get a severe ass kickin' around here.



Insane.




Why are they starting the fires?

Seriously, wtf?

BLM showing their cards. All about civil unrest, not a damn thing to do with black folk.
In my state I'm ashamed to say the idiot governor and cuck Portland mayor have emboldened these freaks by not upholding the law. This is what we get as a result

Late to this party, but....................................






are you trying to make sense again?


You should know better by now.

Hope your family all get through this OK.

I'm praying for your state .

Here's a link to multiple weather feeds from that part of the country. You can get a live time assessment from about anything available to a meteorologist. The smoke sources are visible from satellites. You might have to go to goober(le) maps to zoom in though.


https://www.ventusky.com/?p=44.12;-122.49;6&l=satellite&t=20200909/1800

PS: For some reason I can't get the link to go through.
Try plugging it into the browser/search engine.
The site is Ventusky.com

I recommend that anyone interested in this book mark it. It's one of my more valuable internet tools.
You can do your own forecast predictions.

Know Trinity and Humboldt quite well. Smoke here is really bad. Humboldt County Fairgrounds is now an evac site/shelter.

I’ve got a real open mind on this. I’m very suspicious of the sheer number of fires that happened/were started about the same time.

So, my dear old left leaning aunt, whom I consider the one person that's never wronged me, ahhhhh, in Salem, "hasn't heard anything about arson and just watched the news." LOL

Anyone have a wind update? How long until onshore flow returns? The east wind is huge in this regardless of the cause.

My wife showed me a picture someone took showing the sky there in Eureka. Looked pretty ugly.

We both have family all over Northern California so she has been keeping an eye on it.

Correction Friend.
Basically from the Mexican Border to the Canadian one.

https://inciweb.nwcg.gov/incident/7150/


Waiting for an update on that one. Winds were at 29 mph this morning and humidity still below 20% at 0500. Got down in the single digit humidity there today, but winds lessened and look to have somewhat blown back on the burned area.

I'm expecting close to 25K acres by now if it follows historical patterns down there and tomorrow and Fri the E wind kicks back in.

Looks like the wind will be dying down and changing direction tomorrow and the next day in the Detroit area, Mollala area about the same I believe.

https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lat=44.7357&lon=-122.1508

Did Roy’s wife light his balls on fire?

Lets hope...Starting to get sporty around here.

I see some smoke . Are we being fire attacked too?

Thanks man! Hope so.

Buddy just reported for work, Clackamas Co fire. "Fires everywhere."

Cheering and high fives while watching a live feed eventually showing that our family cabin still stands, sadness for the families that lost their homes.

Once again, a wildfire has touched my family. Son and family went through the hell that was Paradise in the Camp Fire two years ago.

Fire is a capricious thing.

Heck yeah

Go here and look it up.
Its the same sensors and tools of the trade that the meteorologists use.

https://www.ventusky.com

Look it is fugk face Camper Steelhead .

History repeating itself.

https://oregonencyclopedia.org/articles/tillamook_burn/#.X1mNmpNKiRs

I haven't read this while thread so I apologize if this is a repeat but it sounds like a bunch of ANTIFA have been arrested in NorCal and Southern Oregon for arson.

Both states are calling back a lot of retired fire incident commanders. This whole situation is for real.

Grimm news, windy, Estacada evacuations.


That's about 10 miles from another fure in the Elmwood /Dodge/Hillock Burn area a couple of miles upwind, over a ridge of brush, of the place I was raised. Doubt my old man would fair well if'n he lost the place.

JFC....

Prayers for the folks in the cross hairs.

Although not in the family anymore, I hear that the big mountain A-frame house my grandfather hand-built outside of Silverton, Or could be in danger.

I spent SO many summers in Silverton and it still holds a special place in my heart.

My high school buddy in Silverton is on level 2, just waiting for the go order. I told him he's welcome here too.

Fuggen fires all over the western side of the state. Usually it's the east that gets the brunt of fire season. These fires are antifa set, bet on it! I want to know when the police will look the other way and let the citizens take out the trash.

I can verify that at this point.. knowing some folks who in LE around here.. they are confirming that...

This time of year, western Oregon is usually pretty dry but not bony. California seems to be tinder every year, fully Med cycle -- you'll notice that there was a big fire in Greece that wiped out a refugee camp. That's eastern Med.
But there have been lots of mortalities and very little done to remove fuels or break them up with defensible clearcuts or new growth or something besides what is called "contiguous fuels." Oh, gosh, this is horrible. I've been all over western Oregon and it makes me sick to be hearing about this.
I certainly hope, if it's learned and confirmed that arsonists did these...it's not a misdemeanor, but FELONY.

No more schit talk from jackmountain and the rest now.

Assuming it really is arson, I think these types of arsonists should simply be put to death. Of course, that ain't gonna happen.

I spent the afternoon going down to Ashland and looking at the destruction that has been done in the last 24 hours...

I can talk about things that only locals would know, but here goes anyway....common denominator, is that these fires were multiple fires started last night... pretty much up and down the Bear Creek Greenway.. they terminated at the south, where the trail ends in Ashland...Phoenix and Talent, all access is blocked.. but seeing thru the threes that were burnt down along the Greenway, Talent and Phoenix have very little left standing, when looking at it going south on I 5....These fires were along a line of 20 miles north to south.. the winds contrary to that...

I stopped at Costco in Central Point and got fuel at 3: 15....Saw a huge plume from the location 15 minutes later down the freeway... got off and looked back north, and there was this huge plume in the sky, like a large Airliner sized plane had must crashed nose first into the ground.... it turned out that it was started about 200 yds down the street... they are calling it Greenway Fire MM 24 now.. Mile Marker 24...off the Bear Creek Greenway....broad daylight with plenty of witnesses.... Old condemned barn type building, over grown lot, and a big brush pile... Some Idiot walked out of the Greenway Area, lit a road flare and threw it in the bottom of the brush pile and walked back toward the Greenway, where he came from....

he was caught 15 minutes later... Bragged about belonging to Antifa....now we'll see what its released as, from the local Media outlets...

https://fr.ebeneinfo.com/i-5-beginn...s-work-to-contain-fire-in-central-point/

its almost like they are opening up about this, and they have it in their head they won't get prosecuted.. the same as it is in Potlandia...I'm concerned about tonight... It would take someone stopping at the rest area a mile from my house off the freeway... walk across the road behind the Rest Area and just toss a road flare into the woods on the other side of it, and this entire neighborhood will be going up in flames.... its very wooded...every were is vulnerable any where here in Oregon....

and these are being started where people live and the destruction will be large, in your face and personal...

Left home with Blue Sky at noon, got home at 7, and the smoke is so thick you can barely make out the mountains around the perimeter of town....Fire started by Antifa people down in Happy Camp, has grown 30,000 acres or more since it started yesterday.. I think their estimate is a little short...

From what I've heard, people have died.

It's murder.

Several years ago a fire fighter died fighting a house fire near here that was arson. The arsonist was caught, convicted of first degree murder and sent away for life.

Santiam,

Is that Detroit?

Looks like a few places in Cali a coupla years back.

Hope you're safe at your location.

Burned to death while being drawn and quartered.

Detroit,Blue River,Vida,Talent and many others,all gone..

I have plowed fields all around me..Pretty safe I hope.

Don't forget the wonderful DA

Likely a free pass since they are communist. They are the new entitled minority group, you know.

Seafire.

We were in Ashland today for a Dr appt. One of the folks that worked on me lived on a street there where one of the fires started yesterday, said she got lucky the wind switched and blew away from her home, places right up the road are gone though. Another one was up in GP and couldn't get home to Ashland to her daughter except by going around Mt Ashland on some dirt roads, said she felt fortunate she had a little RV or she would have been a lot later waiting for them to open the roads again.

Wife went into town while I was in the Dr to get a coffee and bagel. Said many places in town were closed.

We usually take the 5 from the 66 onramp N to the 19 exit, but went through town instead this morning in case they had all traffic getting off there. Is that road that hooks back south towards Ashland proper about where the Greenway thing ends? Seems as we go over the little creek there at the light there's always homeless looking folks hanging out there.

Do you happen to have a link or info on that Happy Camp/Antifa deal? Sure seems like a fugged up place for them to torch. I guess it's likely Trump Territory, if true maybe that was their thinking?

Hope they stay away from your place. Stay safe

Blue River

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oziiiUi1OTU&t=29s

You'll hopefully not need the safety provided by the ag lands there.

Sure will be interesting when/if they find out how many of these are "arson". Years ago I saw folks warning about how easy it would be to get out to cause that kind of havoc during a windstorm which was already causing fire. Or dry lightning storms.

Sure hope them fuggers don't come around here.

Marcola, just over the ridge from me is under threat tonight..Fire is very close..

Have lived through a few big ones close by. Not the kind of excitement one really needs in life.

Hope it goes well for you and yours tonight.

Seafire
Do you have a link to the arrest made of the arsonist?

Godspeed man.

A couple of the fires have known causes! Car started one near Ashland! Some others must be man set! Too many to quick, spread out, but in a line down I5! The one in Happy Camp, I will wait until more informatio is released! I figured Happy Camp was probably, from making pot extracts, gone boom. Or meth cookers blowing something up! Being a skeptic, thats what I expect from the Happy Camp area!

jackmountain is nothing but a stupid POS.

I hope you're making it through unscathed Logger.

Pardon Ethan, you've forgotten cousin phucqker.

Be safe Santiam... and may the Good Lord watch over you and your family and neighbors this evening...

These fires don't get me nearly as much as this senseless destruction is happen all up down I 5, all the way to the Canadian border in Washington.. and down pass Sacramento and the Bay Area in CA...

They are near neighborhoods, but then in the forest, they are burning hundreds of thousands of acres...

for those east coast friends who maybe want to put the size into prospective: 640 acres equal a square mile..
The Fire Logger mentioned north of him in Myrtle Creek, has grown to 72 thousand acres...
That one alone equals to 112.5 square miles....

We have several fires locally that are burning in the Rogue Valley here on the California state line, that amount to over 50 square miles EACH....

They are telling people to evacuate, while at the same time, here in Southern Oregon, thru roads in almost ANY direction are being closed...I 5 was closed in Central Point today from about 3:30 or so, until almost 7 PM in both directions...Vehicles were lined for miles, just to try to find a way thru... and not moving...anywhere...

and times like that really make we locals really LOVE our neighbors from the south with California license plates.... stopped traffic and they are driving down the breakdown lanes at 80 mph....hot times in the old town tonight...

Geno,

The place you talk about there off of exit 19, where it hits Hwy 99.. yeah, the Greenway goes by that bridge, and on south.. the road down toward it that way will lead you to it... easier way, off of old 99 thru town, you'll see a road down near the College, that is Mountain Ave... take that back downhill toward the Freeway and that is where the Greenway ends...between there and the Freeway, I noticed a lot of land was burned thru that area... but no fires had burned past where the Bear Creek Greenway ends...

no doubt in my mind, Antifa people were going onto the Greenway, especially down in the Ashland area and lighting those fires, in coordinated spots...and they were leaving areas alone...south bound side of the Freeway, I noted a house that always had signs about God and Jesus on it, visible off the freeway, was totally burned down.. but the two houses next to it were just fine...
coincidence maybe, but I really doubt it...

Fires aren't that hard to start... a quick road flare tossed into the brush, and you have a big fire in your hands real quick..

I really believe the parts they started near Phoenix and Talent on the Greenway, just got out of their hands real quick and they probably just freaked out and got out of there.... on the other hand, aftermath, what the fire crews did with what they had to work with.. they did a fantastic job here in the Rogue Valley.. local community college here has a real big fire and paramedic program..at several campuses...

I really think this entire thing is far from over.. Antifa will be pulling things like this, right up thru the election.. and if they don't get their ways, it will continue afterwards... winter rains may shorten their opportunities, but again, they will just relocate to somewhere else and pull something else to tie up resources and harass the local populations...

This will only stop, when these people are held accountable and are locked up for a long time.. or sent onto a permanent dirt nap..
this could easily be the start of that civil war that plenty think is going to eventually be coming...

and then these antifa people have plenty of democRATS who run the governments here on the west coast, giving them protected status...these guys being arrested tho, I've heard are being arrested on Federal Charges and are being detained by the Federal Police agencies...Seem a lot of Forest Service Rangers LE out running around the local areas for weeks now..

wonder if they were tipped something like this might be on the way several months back...

Long arm, no I don't.. I can tell you that they would have been arrested around 4 Pm in Jackson County...on the border of Medford and Central Point city limits... I'd bet they would be listed on tomorrow's Jackson County Sheriff's reports, unless he was taken in and put somewhere by the Feds... its leaking out from some of the cops supposedly, the Feds are down here and making these fires all Federal..

The person arrested, that was mentioned during a break on talk radio locally, that started the fire near Costco..

"supposedly' they had about 5 to 7 Antifa types in custody this morning before 8 Am...

people know the numbers, but those in the know aren't talking publicly yet...

I doubt if they want to play their hand yet...wonder if like me, they are thinking this is far from over...
it wasn't a one night stand kind of thing...

Hell they may even lay low for a week or so, and then pop up again somewhere else ..

three folks in their 20s tried to kidnap a kid from a park down in Cave Junction on Monday, the car had out of state plates and they were caught and lodged in the JoCo Jail.. the kid was only 5 years old...wonder if that was just coincidence or they were part of some of these Antifa NLM people down from Potlandia...

Prayers on the way foe everyone in the fire zones. Stay safe.

When you're right, you're right and you're right. lol

Wondered about you. Evidently the fires are way on west. Glad you're not threatened.

At least I didn't have to travel to another country and buy a wife?

Ok, jack, keep telling yourself you're not a doosh.

I’ve heard you can get some good deals 🙂

Still didn't need an interpreter on my honeymoon.

Hoped boomer checked her for a penis. Ive heard those Thai "ladyboys" are pretty convincing?

I have a niece and nephew that live in Dexter Oregon. Since 2017, life has NOT been fair to them. Their ONLY child was killed in a car wreck, then after a short period of time, my nephew was at work for the department of agriculture and was on state land leaving. He stopped his truck and walked back to close a gate when his truck jumped out of park, rolled back and crushed him from the hips down. He is STILL recuperating. NOW the fires are at his door step. I just got this from him this morning. I PRAY he and his wife remain safe and my thoughts and prayers go out to all our members right here that may be in harm's way. STAY SAFE.

Hey Unk, I am sure you have seen all the s h i t happening here in Oregon. The whole damned state is on fire and they are arsonist set. There was an a guy trying to set a fire a couple miles up the road at a state park...an hour ago ! Man i would liked to have been the one to see him try !!!! we are packing to evacuate but so far we are fine. WE sent all of John's belongings to Mare's brothers on the coast . We are fine so far we have just gotten power back on an hour a go . Love ya John, Mare, Lionel and crew

I really hope this is true.



A capital offense if ever there was one

Some comfort in that if incarcerated things will go hard on them. Cons have kids too, and they worry about what happens to them while they cannot protect them. I have been told this is why they hate those who prey on children.

I do believe I did much better than offerings on the vintage domestic used market. Not a bit of regret.

Your schit hole state has been by bombarded by left wing attacks to the point of it being damn near decimated, and all you can worry about is a guy you don’t know in WV?

LMAO

What a fugkin’ loser.

Wouldn't surprise me at all to find out Antifa aka domestic terrorists are responsible for most of the fires.

You gonna write us a poem?

The Cedars is owned (was) by my cousin's family. My great aunt Audrey and uncle Earl Layman started it at the old town site. It got moved to the new location when the dam was put in. I worked there the Summer of '76 as a dish washer for Bob and Bernice Layman. It was a great summer, girls, woods, lake, water skiing (I never got the hang of it). Their son Dave took it over and ran it until a few years ago when it passed to his kids.

My heart goes out to everyone.

Jesus, my hunting buddy's mom and dad live in Marcola.

Medford Police saying, "We did not arrest this person for arson, nor anyone affiliated with Antifa or “Proud Boys” as we’ve heard throughout the day. Also, no confirmed gatherings of Antifa which has also been reported."

https://www.facebook.com/MedfordPoliceOR/posts/1496916293848945

What the heck is wrong with you? Oregon is a freaking awesome state. Too many people is phucqking it up. People suck, not Oregon. Damn.

Why don’t you live there?

There's too many people.

A couple years ago there was someone up here starting fires, caught him, never heard another word...It turned out to be a muzzie, never heard another word about it.
One pos can cause alot of damage in shorttime.
Prayers to all.

Whole thing gives me heartburn. Sorry for all y'alls losses. Prayers for all affected.

Oh.

They have their orders I am sure..... but people, have been hearing contrary according to broadcasts picked up on police radio scanners...and if it not arson, how in the heck did all of these fires start up and down an interurban walkway over a 20 mile stretch? running north to south, when winds are blowing east to west...

kinda obvious, regardless of what Medford PD is saying on their FB page.....

its arson, so its a fast moving arsonist, or a gang of firebugs, or its Antifa... take your pick...

Back to the fires...The Slater Butte/Happy Camp fire, Arson? Antifa connection?...I would be astonished if this proved to be anything other than gusty winds on an exposed peak radio repeater site, a poorly maintained power line. It is on a dead end road, heavy brush, no recreation, known locally as a good place to road hunt when it's raining or snowing. As of 18:00 last nite it burned 90,000 acres in 36 hours.
The Medford to Ashland string of fires? That's another story, heavily populated, high homeless population..the Bear Cr Greenway is a homeless refuge, the So Oregon U. is and has always been a cesspool of liberal activism, you can bet the farm that there are plenty of people there with ties to Antifa. SOU was hand in glove with the green activists that were tree sitting and spiking logs to halt logging operations a few years back.
But, as with many of my opinions, you need to know that I thought there was no way in hell Obummer would get a second term.

Seafire,

Not saying some aren't arson. Likely some are. Some are also other causes. We had powerlines arcing in the wind storm on Monday up wind from us. Could hear them as our power flickered. Thank God it didn't start one otherwise we'd have likely had the house and timber burn.


There is a fire just west of us that they know was a powerline. Not sure about the Chehalem-Bald Peak fire that is 3 miles from us. But its all private land and I'd be willing to bet it was someone doing some field work as it started in a hay field.

I think that part of the Santiam fire was started by lightning a few days before the East wind picked up.

Sickler confirmed that investigators have recovered one body connected to the Almeda Fire — found near the origin of the fire in north Ashland — and that death is now the subject of an "active criminal investigation." There are no answers yet as to how the death happened or who it was, and Sickler said that "nothing has been ruled out."

https://www.kdrv.com/content/news/S...m-Almeda-Fire-more-likely-572364341.html

Steve, it is heartbreaking to see the video of Detroit. I've eaten at The Cedars many times and met cousin Dave years ago when we were both kids and we spend a lot of time fishing and skiing on Detroit Lake. We were planning on spending last weekend at the City of Sisters Creekside Campground but something inside told me to stay close to home so we moved the reservations to sometime in October. Had we gone we would have came through Detroit and all those other destroyed towns just hours before the fires exploded. It is wrenching to see the way those folks lives have been torn apart.

We are worried about a wind shift later this afternoon. After that the weather pattern starts a beneficial shift with west winds likely to bring more humidity and perhaps even some drizzle at the beginning of the week. We are prepared as we can be, but the real challenge right now is visibility - or the lack there of. We couldn't see a fire at the bottom of our south meadow - less than a 1/2 mile away. I brought our fire trailer up to the house and its ready to go. One slight advantage we have is that we knew when we built here that fire was our major vulnerability. A lot of the other places being devastated could not have reasonably expected to be overrun by a fast moving fire. Our house/shop was built with fire in mind. Hardie Plank siding, metal roof, no wood decks, mowed clearings on two sides, no trees on one side, 100 ft to the treed BLM boundary to the west, underground power lines, 7000 gallons of underground water and 4 large pressure tanks to push the water if needed. It is times like this, however, when you get increased clarity as to what more can be done. If we get through this ok, this fall/winter will be spent pushing our fire boundaries out away from the house/shop area. Time does move slowly when we are just in a wait mode.

Just damn....Very sorry, Steve.

😎

Marcola is still there.. The wind is laying down and becoming more westerly.

JFC,
Do I have to separate you twos?

😬😎

I just talked to him. He said they were under Level I and ready to go.

Not the time to entertain fools Beaver. Only an a s s hole would come on a thread like this and be a prick.

All kinds of unsubstantiated info regarding people arrested being heard on the scanner.

#AllEyezonBallz

Just hoping y'all get some rain.

Not until Mon-Tues. Wind has slowed down so that's a blessing. Supposed to be in the upper 80's and 90's until then, though.

crickets

What do you say jack?

This is what fire fighters (and the rest of us) have to deal with.


JUNCTION CITY, Ore. -- The Junction City Police Department arrested 48-year-old Milton Loice Moran for lighting a mortar-type firework in the Noraton Road and Lingo Lane area.

Officials responded to the area just north of Junction City for a report of illegal fireworks on Wednesday night. The investigation revealed that the subject who ignited the firework left the area on a motorcycle prior to police arriving on scene but he was immediately found at a nearby store.

Moran admitted to lighting the firework and acknowledged that he knew how dangerous it was due to dry conditions. Additional fireworks were taken from his residence.

The firework was ignited one foot from Moran's carpentry shop and in close proximity to another residence.

Moran was arrested and charged with two counts of reckless endangerment of another person and driving while felony suspended.


https://www.kezi.com/content/news/Junction-City-man-arrested-for-lighting-firework--572370521.html

We need a purge.

Sounds like this guy is being hysterical, according to jackmountain anyway- Man seen lighting fires

https://katu.com/news/local/man-seen-starting-fires-at-oregon-state-park-local-fire-chief-says

I think they spelled Moron wrong.

They better not burn down the Dexter Lake Club if it's still there . I camped nearby in 73 or so, walked down to the club every morning, picked up enough empties from the drunks the night before to cash in and get a quart of beer for to start the day.

And, it's a Historical Place of Note for sure:

I say only a retard would be worried about starting [bleep] with an anonymous poster on the internet when their entire state is on fire. I'm pretty sure you'd be the last thing on my mind if I was in your position, but carry on as you see fit you dumb cqunt.

I didn't start anything with you a s s hole, you came on a thread about the fires in Oregon and tried to make a point about me. Totally classless as usual.

This is serious, peoples lives are being destroyed, lots of them. You and Dead-Weight Dave offer nothing.

So looking at the satellite images, it appears that an east wind is pushing this monster. Not knowing much about the area, would a west wind push the fire back into itself, starving it of fuel?

Was watching a live stream in YouTube where a couple of former FS firefighters were making a stand with their private rigs defending one of the guys parents house. Cedar shakes roof, RH in the single digits, temps near 90, and a probability of ignition (PIG) of nearly 100%. Not sure if they were successful or not. I’m sure it was a long night as the fire was only 1/2 mile away. They did get pictures of possible looters they confronted taking boxes of stuff including handguns off the mountain. Special place in hell if that’s what was going on.

Godspeed to our guys in OR. The enormity of loss so quickly is unimaginable. I hope Mother Nature gives you a hand in getting this thing under control.

Easy enough to point the finger at Antifa, BLM and everyone else who doesn't believe in the Easter bunny or Santa Claus, and I'm sure there is some arson going on here as targets of opportunity for psychopaths who live in the woods and act out in their own little world-

However, ignoring the low hanging fruit- if you've spent much time in the back country in Oregon you soon realize that the power lines in most of the more rural area are ripe for fire starting. As an electrician I've always noticed that the antiquated power lines that run in most of the back country are extremely low mounted relative to how they are in towns where heavy traffic and heavier electrical loads require them to be mounted much higher. The poles are shorter and in most cases , very, very old and ready to fall over in many cases. Also, the back country overhead power lines were installed a very long time ago when electrical loads were substantially lower than they are now- meaning much smaller primary wiring which is getting warm in these conditions with everyone running electrical equipment like Air conditioners and the like. This not only causes the power lines to get hot, but also causes them to droop from the heat relaxing the wire. Add in a wind storm blowing limbs across these high voltage wires- 4160 Volts up to 13,000 volts in some cases and you have instant fire starting in these conditions.

So, though it is easy to blame Antifa for all our ills, it is just as easy to point fingers at the power companies who have neglected to maintain the power grid due to cost and time.... California the last few years is a perfect example of this- fires caused by power lines that weren't maintained were the source of major lawsuits- both public and private- in the last few years... no different here. The results speak for themselves...

Bob

Thanks John,

I thought that was the situation there. Didn't know the Greenway ran that much further South. I'm pretty sure I know which house had the Jesus signs too. We didn't get on the 5 at all yesterday, just went back thru town to get lunch at the Falafel Republic and a baked goodie at that grocery there for desert (stuff we don't have here ) and then back to 66 and over the hill. Never saw the burned areas in Ashland.

Sure hope they catch the perps. And deal with them accordingly.

All you So Oregonians, keep a watchful eye and stay safe.

A west wind will help stall the fires and allow firefighters to get close enough to begin building hard lines. It may also allow air resources to be used more aggressively. Most of our limited resources are now being used to protect lives and where possible - houses.

It might depending on the terrain. These fires a in some pretty rugged stuff. But we'll probably get a south wind. That's what it's doing now at our place. Very light breeze from the SSW. Unfortunately that will put us directly down wind of our fire. Haven't seen or smelled smoke from it yet. Only the high smoke from the Santaim fire.

We need rain. But just no wind would be good.

Might have to go over the ridge to see what the fire's doing in a bit.

Funny, same schit you do to others that you don't like, but hell carry on.

Yes, with any luck a wind change will blow the fire back over a burned area, slowing it's growth. However, as sometimes happens, it can blow it back into spots that didn't burn the first time through and into housing areas that were saved also. But, generally a good thing when the wind blows back over what was burned. It's a natural equivalent of sorts to setting backfires.

Cedar shakes, low humidty, fires nearby, are not conducive to keeping a house from burning, but if there's a couple of experienced hands there, and they have water, it's possible. Hopefully that house has a good firebreak around it, if not, even good efforts will fail.

Sheister (Bob);

You are exactly right. At one time in the past we had a real problem with fires starting from trains and the rail road companies worked hard to fix that problem and we haven't had near the problems. In the last couple of years it has been power lines. Even before this event, we had around 10 fire starts from power lines this fire season. I think in the fullness of time and investigation that most of these fires will be tied back power line issues, not all, but most.

I never understood cedar shake roofs living fire and snow country. All my buildings had metal roofs. Every year had fires come through my area.

Thanks Ethan,

Nothing in our area of operations.............for now.

It's dry here, even this early in the AM it's only 18%. Going to be 86F today and I expect by then we'll be nearing single digit territory for moisture. Good thing, for the next couple of days little to no wind. I'll take those odds.

We're close to 200 miles from those fires in the Ashland OR area, a bit more than that from the Happy Camp one, and I think it's about 180 miles to the I5 corridor. Hopefully the firebugs don't bother to come here to the outback. They may have figured it that way, the East Side of the mountains, OR and CA still has a somewhat good appreciation of Frontier Justice. And a whole lot more folks armed, daily, than on the west side.

Outside of that car fire in the Ashland area, those ones along that Greenway seem VERY suspicious.

And that report today of the ones being set near Dexter Lake.

I do believe some were "opportunistic" events by folks looking to create more havoc.

But, as you stated, there are likely a bunch more going to be determined to be power line related after that wind event the other night. We had two outages down here in less than 24 hours, 3 + hours and another about 2 hours for a problem they found once daylight happened very close (4 miles) to our house.

One thing I always notice on the way over the hill, a whole lot of those homes on 66 going to Ashland, or 140 (?) going to Medford are surrounded by trees, some nearly right up to the house. I know folks like their trees, but sometimes it might be prudent to have a defensible space, ya think? I've seen it all over the West, mountains of CA, AZ, OR, WA, even SE AK. Trees right up to the dooryard. Would drive me nuts as I grew up with 300 + days of sun and I like to see it. Shade is handy, but I've got shade inside the house, don't need a tree right up to the side of the buildings.

Easily available resources. I lived a good number of years in Redwood country. Shingle roofs and shake siding were quite common in the older neighborhoods. Some interesting construction techniques too, like no studs in the wall. Three layers of redwood 1x10, herringboned diagonally, cut holes through the three layers to put in windows and doors. Can't say it didn't work, the one house I lived in in the 90's was built before 1904 and survived a whole lot of earthquakes, including about 7 above 5.0M in the 8 years I was there. Apparently can flex quite nicely.

I'd change out our asphalt shingles in a minute for metal if I had more cash. We don't get many big snowstorms, but it might help in the event of a very close fire. The place has cement siding already and a big firebreak around us, but anything helps. Roofing is still good for maybe 10 more years? When it's time, it'll get metal if we're still here.

Oregon Governor is trying to set blame on the Republican legislators who walked out and stayed out on a sessions funding package bill last year, iirc.

One part of the massive democratic bill included a wildfire funding package that would have provided cash to agencies to remove dense underbrush from Oregon Forests.

Yep, this twice in a lifetime event is the fault of Republicans.

Politics never stops.

😎

LOL

Metal roofs help. But around here it's the gutters that get ya. Even if we'd have cleaned them this weekend, they'd be full again from the wind blowing male fir cones off the trees since the.

Might be rethinking those perpetual gutter cover ads...

Steve,

Wasn't attempting to be contrary to your post.. rreading the Medford Pd FB page, there are also a lot of people posting below it, that don't really believe it, from what they have seen and what they have heard... I'm just one of them..

Mr Heister brings up a lot of good points to point to power lines...a lot of Oregon is dealing with these fires and it might be the real rreason.. It probably applies to the Happy Camp's fire, and that is taking a path that has been taken before north bound over the mountains into Oregon more than once since I've lived here...

Medford, I don't think so, common ground to a lot of these fires in the Rogue Valley have been started along the Greenway..
The one that blew up yesterday down near Costco at 3 in the afternoon had witneses, and the wind had actually died down, and there was no ignition source.. I had just got gas about 200 yds from where it started 15 minutes before hand....

The fires on the Greenway, if you see the aftermath, and the areas that burned, Minus Phoenix and Talent, one can see the Rogue Valley Fire Assets did an unbelievable job, of putting out the fires as they tried to spread...bunch of orchards and hemp grows along the Greenway, that escaped being burned.. I wonder if they just fired up their irrigation equipment and wet it down enough to prevent the orchards taking fire on....

Resources right in Phoenix and Talent, they didn't have assets to fight something like this...and back up was too busy elsewhere.. its just hard not to feel real anger, when you see people's homes and businesses destroyed.. especially when its an entire trailer park, or pretty much every house on the block, for blocks and blocks..... I'm not aware of any power lines running thru the areas destroyed around the Greenway

Arson, whether Firebug or political /Antifa BLM is still part of this all down here in the Rogue Valley, heavy Trump country...

Multiple rreasons for all of this going on, conditions are ripe.. no one denies that.. emotions are high..time will tell over the Arson part.. supposedly hearing multiple sources that the Feds are down here doing investigations already...

but explanations of Power lines and their weak points from Mr Heister.. one has to wonder, with this potential, why has not politicians who seem to regulated the smallest details of our every day lives, how have rural power lines escaped their scrutiny?
you'd think being on top of that type of stuff, and making companies maintain that stuff would be a no brainer... unless people were getting paid off by Pacific Power and whatever runs the Grid up via Potlandia and northern Oregon...

$100 dollars worth of road flares from Bi Mart in the trunk of some arsonists vehicle, driving up and down I 5, they could burn down half of the I 5 corridor with little effort...and the way they have been sitting Portland on fire nightly for 3 months or more..
along with their claims to branch out... and actually seeing them first hand, in the major smaller towns around the state... its not hard to believe there rhetoric.. and they don't need big numbers of folks to do it..

I'll say in the long run, we are going to find out, that there has been a lot of reasons, all varying, of why we have had to deal with these fires over the last few days, state wide...

I'm sure Kate Brown for once will actually admit that she is in over her head and is relying on others to tell her what to do...
even realize for herself, she isn't the Queen of Oregon she thought she was...

You have any pines around the place?

My brother considered them, but he's surrounded by Ponderosas and says those needled just get caught in the little holes and are a pin to remove.

I've seen some made out of really course material like those abrasive disks folks use for cleaning up cast iron, but of course, those are made of some sort of polymer which likely would catch fire along with stopping those cones from filling your gutters.

Good luck with it.

Laughable... who would have guessed?

Liberals never quit pointing the finger at others for their failures...if they can't blame the Republicans.. there is always the Russians readily available to blame...

and then how many local idiots will mark their ballots for democRATS once again in 60 days...

I had covers on my gutters but all the ponderosa pines were removed near the house and out buildings so that helped a lot.

I ve had a few close fires and its amazing once the fire gets up in the crowns of the ponderosa pines and the wind picks up. Just like a giant Roman candles

Understand. No worries!

Warren Buffet is a major stockholder in Pacific Power and the contract tree trimmers working for Pacific Power here in the next county south of you guys, claim since he became involved, Pacificorp has actually cut back on line maintenance. You would think after the lesson learned in Paradise CA a couple years back, which cost PG&E so heavily, they would be increasing maintenance. The trimmers also told me that the poles need to be closer together to avoid long spans that droop on hot days when wind can cause them to swing and arc together.

Seafire...check your pm please?

We had trimmers out on our road earlier this summer. Spent a couple weeks going all along the poles all over our hill.

If they hadn't I'm sure we would have had power lines down.

Sheriff's office just put out a statement asking people to quit spreading rumors about fires being intentionally started, at least in this county. Said 911/dispatch has been overwhelmed with calls and questions about it.

And tomorrow is September 11...

Imagine that

What our Sheriff is saying about the antifa angle:

Remember when we said to follow official sources only. Remember when we said rumors make this already difficult incident even harder? Rumors spread just like wildfire and now our 9-1-1 dispatchers and professional staff are being overrun with requests for information and inquiries on an UNTRUE rumor that 6 Antifa members have been arrested for setting fires in DOUGLAS COUNTY, OREGON.

THIS IS NOT TRUE! Unfortunately, people are spreading this rumor and it is causing problems.

https://www.facebook.com/DouglasCoSO

Typing this when GW posted above.

Take away the rumors what will ol tin foil hat fireballz post?

I'm nice to any and everyone, and lots of guys here will testify to it, until you make it a point to be a dick to me. Even then I try to keep the peace and often PM to try to talk it out. But some just aren't capable of civil discourse.

You yourself are a perfect example. When your wife was sick I asked about her, didn't know you from Adam. You're trying to fit into the cute crowd so you've chosen your path of least resistance rather than truth. Your problem not mine.

therein lies the rub as some Englishman once said.

"We" try to vote in fiscally conservative folks, "They" try to put together massive spending packages, "our folks" don't play, the whole package gets cancelled and nothing gets done.

Anyone who has followed my posts here every fire season knows my feelings on the issue. Many, if not most, of these major fires start in areas that are not commercially important. Chaparral, scrublands, Oak grasslands, sagebrush/juniper grasslands, roadside brush (Carr fire and apparently one of the Ashland fires). Because there's no financial value to these lands (maybe some grazing and firewood permitting) there is no push to spend money on REAL fire prevention in these areas.

No commercial company is going into these areas without being compensated with taxpayer monies. No Govt agency (Fed,State, Local) is going into these areas without raising taxes or cutting other necessary programs (roads, police, fire). There's NO money in thinning or controlled burning in chaparral or scrublands.

In areas with productive forests it's sometimes possible to get a commercial operation in there to take some of the small stuff down................if they can get a BIG harvest of merchantable timber. As in enough to cover them losing money on cutting down pecker poles. (dog hair thickets to some of y'all) . But, they'd just as soon go in and harvest good trees and leave the rest.

Someone mentioned "clear cuts" as being part of the answer? Ever seen a clearcut a couple of years into recovery go up in flames, especially on private land where they've nuked the brush with weed killer to release the conifers? That might be worse than a chaparral fire sometimes.

Lots of solutions...............................NONE of them cheap............and we don't get to pick and choose where our tax dollars go unfortunately. Really sticky for Fed stuff. Folks in the Midwest and back East don't want billions of $$$ going to clear brush and chaparral on our Western Public Lands. It's "our Western problem" after all, right? Well, I get a bit miffed every decade or two when the Mississippi or Missouri floods a good chunk of cities along their banks and folks are allowed to rebuild in the flood zone and "my" money is used to fund the rebuild.

Most of us here on the 'fire are fiscal conservatives and don't want to pay more in taxes for most anything. So we get to live with wildfires out here in the West, floods in the midwest, hurricanes on the Gulf Coast (people build back again as soon as the wind stops blowing, right?), Blizzards and Nor'easters on the Atlantic coasts.

And then there's.............................The Corona.........................which we're all going to pay for for a long long time.

"Washington State Patrol (WSP) District 1 Public Information Officer Trooper Ryan Burke announced in a tweet on Wednesday that officers from multiple jurisdictions apprehended a 36-year-old man for setting a fire in the median of SR-167 in Puyallup.

The Gateway Pundit identified the suspect as Jeffrey Accord, a local Black Lives Matter activist."

https://bluelivesmatter.blue/police...in-connection-with-west-coast-wildfires/

Was that burning grass hard to control between four lanes of asphalt?

#callnumdiscredited
#typicallyinglib

Because, you know, like, antifa would never start a fire.

Holy crap you're a [bleep] idiot

Never once said that, the point is don't post like you did, where your BIL's sister's cousins friend's neighbor heard on the scanner the police made an arrest. You did this like 10 times. Stick to tending the roses. Try and stick to facts. Proven ones.

.................Stick to facts??? CALL-NUMB-NUTS??..LOL>>>LOL>>>LOL..............

Everybody makes mistakes, but you just choose to believe lies rather than look for the truth that's staring you right in the face.

Fires out west never jump roads or rivers or lakes in high winds. Caldum you're a genius once again!!!!

lmao

"Law enforcement agencies across the West Coast have arrested multiple alleged arsonists accused of intentionally setting fires while hundreds of blazes wreak havoc in several states.

At least seven people have died, hundreds of homes have been destroyed, and countless communities have been evacuated"

It's all good, callnum says his people weren't involved.

You are a fugking idiot!!! You’re to stupid to know the wind can carry an ember out of said grass and start a larger fire. Suck start a Glock.

You go , girl

Remember when we said to follow official sources only. Remember when we said rumors make this already difficult incident even harder? Rumors spread just like wildfire and now our 9-1-1 dispatchers and professional staff are being overrun with requests for information and inquiries on an UNTRUE rumor that 6 Antifa members have been arrested for setting fires in DOUGLAS COUNTY, OREGON.

THIS IS NOT TRUE! Unfortunately, people are spreading this rumor and it is causing problems.

https://www.facebook.com/DouglasCoSO

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Why do you insist on following certain members around only to act like a douche? I try to ignore the morons here but I just get sick of the childish and unnecessary attacks. I don’t think I’ve seen you ever post something that was worth reading. You’ve been here a total of 3 months and in that short period you’ve amassed 1230+ posts. 1230+ posts of nothing worthwhile, no positive contributions only single sentence childish attacks. Why do you insist on acting like a petulant ass? Why not either contribute to the discussion or shut thefuck up? Your single sentence attacks are neither funny nor endearing and it only shows your total lack of character.

Sorry for the sidetrack gentlemen but I just get sick of the dipshits.

It’s because he’s a sock puppet...

10-4

Whose sock puppet (aka...chickenshit coward)?

Steelhead is famous for schitt like that.

Not sure and Yes...

I’d like to see Rick have 1 day a year where he posts up the chicks with multiple handles. I don’t understand the deep rooted insecurities that would compel someone to make up multiple anonymous handles so they can follow some members merely to take a chit on every thread.

Only online would that work. In face to face interactions that’d work exactly once before someone was spitting out their chicklets.

Yah, we don't all love each other.


What's the word in Clackamas County?

This must have ceased being about fires?

Not yet wabi,

Boomer wants to know how his home country is doing today.

Nope...back on track and my apologies for the detour.

I went to grab my coffee this morning while my wife was at the gym and when I walked outside I was stunned at how thick the smoke has become around here. There were a couple of DNR guys filling their brush truck with fuel and I wanted to firstly thank them for their service but also ask them a couple questions about the fires. They were pretty busy talking up the girl at the coffee stand so I didn’t interrupt their diversion. 😁

The “Cliff Notes” said...Politicians Bad!

LOL

😎

If it makes you feel better, I truly feel for everyone in Oregon and hope the very best in outcomes for every one of them.

Except you.

So he was a dumbass... most of them are....which also brings you into the subject....since you are a leftist moron
like Metro Puget Sound doesn't have enough of those types...

Yes,

and taxpayers want everyone else to pay for scheidt they want done, but don't raise "MY" taxes.

Shouldn't you put your obsession with me on hold and put your (very) limited mental resources to work dealing with the destruction going on all around you? I know I would.... But like I said before, carry on you stupid chunt.

You think this thread was about fires?

It was all about fire....... ballz

Come on guys, we can all get along.

CLACKAMAS CO., Ore. – Firefighters are being told to disengage with a wildfire burning in Clackamas County on Thursday, and instead help evacuate citizens on their way out.

The news comes just hours after Clackamas County Sheriff's Office expanded Level 3 "GO" orders to include Molalla, and put the nearby towns of Canby and Oregon City under Level 2 "Be Set" notices.

Clackamas Fire said they are changing the way they are fighting the fire. For now, crews are being told to stop engaging the fires and instead focus on helping with evacuation orders.

Officials added the change is due to an increase in fire behavior. According to Clackamas Fire, the fires in the county are growing and there is a chance they could burn together.

Fire officials said their priority is to make sure firefighters are safe. Crews are being told to go to safety zones near the fire.

First responders in Clackamas County are holding a press conference at about 3 p.m.

Prayers for all involved.

Best friend is a firefighter in the middle of this with Clackamas County. Last I heard he was being sent to Estacada.

Boomer

hope your friend makes it through OK , along with any friends and family.

Big fires are a scheidty occurrence anywhere, especially so when loved ones and friends are in the way of them.

Day old info here, but, the Riverside Fire is the fire over the ridge from dad's place. The discussion here is the opposite side of the fire from what concerns me.

CLACKAMAS CO., Ore. — Emergency officials issued a new round of Level 3 "GO" evacuations for people in the City of Estacada on Wednesday afternoon as a fast-moving wildfire continues to grow in the area.

The Riverside Fire burning seven miles southeast of Estacada has burned 112,000 acres and there has been no containment, according to fire officials.

Deputies are going door-to-door evacuating people in Estacada, the Clackamas County Sheriff's Office said.



The Level evacuations were expanded in Estacada area along Hwy 224, through Eagle Creek to Barton, according to officials.



Officials said a second day of high-winds and low humidity Wednesday could continue to drive active fire growth on the Clackamas River corridor of the Mt. Hood National Forest and surrounding private lands.

Throughout the day, ground crews worked to protect critical infrastructure, homes, and property ahead of the rapidly expanding fire. However, heavy smoke and low visibility prevented air tanker pilots from safety dropping retardant to slow fire growth

“This weather is extremely hazardous to our firefighters and first responders,” said Richard Periman, Mt. Hood National Forest Supervisor. “We responded immediately when the fire was first reported, and we’ll keep all of the firefighting resources we have available on the Riverside Fire as we keep life and human safety as our top priority.”

There are 100 total personnel working on the fire, according to fire officials.



Crews and available air resources will continue to look for opportunities to stop forward growth on the fire and protect life and property.

More than 20 engines and crews are currently working to address immediate human life concerns, including working with county emergency management to assess any buildings burned on Tuesday.

The Mt. Hood National Forest is currently under a full Forest closure including all campgrounds, roads, trails, and other areas.

Other road and areas closures will be updated as that information becomes available.

Tuesday night, all of Clackamas County was under some sort of evacuation notice.

Officials say the fire is believed to be human caused.

Yeppers. It's all in the winds. Exacting details, or the lack thereof is frustrating from here but also for those nearby.


That Riverside deal is what is/was threatening Beav's peoples too.

The order in Clackamas County to no longer fight the fire is bad. Locally they are saying that it is to help evacuate Mollala which is in process now. That would be from the fire coming from the Wilhoit area. The Santuam chit, wilhoit and riverside fires could be coming together. I don't know.

well to get to the nut of it, several that use to be frequent posters on this forum, are right in the path of this, and are cinched up ready to go. which is a lot more important than a couple of teenagers pizzing on each on the innnet.

Rodney! is that you Bro?

Very bad.

#RoysCunny

Local Fox affiliate is saying 500K people are under evacuation orders.

Good news is they're letting people back in to the fire near us.

There's another fire across the valley that damn near burned out an old co-worker. Fighters stopped it next to their barn.

I'll just say this. If those antifa son of a bitches didn't start those fires it's only because the thought never occurred to them.

,...and I strongly suspect that the thought occurred to them.

They were just waiting for some conditions that would give them plausible deniability.

There is close and then there is CLOSE!

Looters,

https://katu.com/news/local/two-men...ebt7of8GZV4OzL4zosXwkJGmOThq4NmHRPDJ7XvQ

gis application

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=43d2d051357a4cc2b13483a2d3984bcf

Aerial photo of his place.

https://www.facebook.com/GastonFire...05/10158626588328805/?type=3&theater

Anyone that doesn't realize this has a brain that's been turned into schit. This is way more than winds and powerlines.

I saw the idiot Washington Governor on the evening news tonight trying to blame it all on Climate Change and Global Warming. What a fuggin idiot.

Fuckers.

Damn...


That is about half of our entire state population.

~10% of ours.

Any bets on priors?

Smoky this AM noting a small fire (200 acres as of this AM) maybe 8 miles over the Cabinets near Troy. The sky was pretty clear this evening.

I was on my way home from the state fairgrounds with some rescued farm animals when I got an alert on my phone saying that the town of Canby was just put on level 2 evacuation alert. Pack up and get ready to leave. That was just over an hour ago.

Shoot on sight...

The fires that have burned over more than 900,000 acres in Oregon this week crept closer to Portland and its suburbs Thursday afternoon and early evening.

The Clackamas County communities of Molalla and Colton were under Level 3, or “Go Now,” evacuation orders. Sandy, Oregon City and Canby were at Level 2, indicating that residents should “Be Set” to evacuate and should prepare to leave at a moment’s notice. The area is affected by large wildfires burning in both Marion and Clackamas counties.

Clackamas County fire officials are anticipating extreme fire behavior that will cause the Beachie Creek and Riverside fires to merge. Firefighters were being re-positioned into safer areas so they will not be directly in the line of rapidly changing fire conditions.

Multnomah County is not under any evacuation orders. Still, Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler issued an emergency order Thursday night. That will close city parks and other outdoor properties, establish evacuation sites for people who may be displaced because of fires and give city officials more power to ask people experiencing homelessness to move if they’re in threatened areas. The emergency order runs through noon on Sept. 24.

These fires are no coincidental incidents.

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Idiot.

Starting to show up in print..People are wondering..

https://thatoregonlife.com/2020/09/...fPB88cIjxpOEI_JbXZBVeBMb0SdEGU0JM0lb60xU

Another of the Campfire braintrust

Was. By next year be more like 1/3 or 1/4 by this time next year. All of us in the mountain west are in the same danger as what's happening in OR. My heart goes out to them. Natural progression, the antifags are looking to sow as much chaos and carnage as possible, it'll only spread. Hope the folks affected can get themselves and their stock out and safely relocated.

Very true and very sobering to think about.

It’s hard to imagine how depraved a good percentage of the left really is, those on the left that aren’t as depraved lend their silence and their vote in quiet support of the depravity.

out yesterday, I saw quite a few properties where the fires had been stopped literally feet from the houses... that is what I was referring to, when I was saying I was amazed what the Firefighters have done, especially under the conditions they were dealing with.. and I am restating I am amazed so many were stopped so close to the side of these residences...

Down in Ashland I stopped by the road ( a short one) that was where a friend I use to work with lived.. I don't know if Steve is still there, but his house is just a pile of rubble, as were all the houses on the road except the second one...I gather they must have had a working sprinkler system, that kept the property all wet....

There are a lot of houses gone down that way... I got thru parts of Clackamas County, when I go up to east side of Portland where I have a facility I support up there... Its scary to think they are having the entire area evacuating... that is fairly built up compared to down here...This entire thing is ridiculous.... the entire west coast is the "perfect Storm" of forest fires... worst I've ever seen it in the times I have lived out this way.. which has been in Washington and Oregon...