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Jackson and Klamath Counties, in automotive, healthcare and retail? It has been estimated that those counties would see a 35% decrease in their economies if the smugglers like Geno were stopped and assessed sales tax at the Ag inspection station at the border crossings. Some years back, the recalled Calif Gov Gray Davis proposed a law to prohibit unprocessed timber from going to Oregon mills, from Eugene to Lakeview to Brookings you could hear the screaming, needless to say, the proposal died, stillborn. But Roseburg Forest Products, promptly bought 80,000 acres and 2 mills in Calif. Whether anybody likes it or not, we need each other.
Well this is a fine pickle we're in, should'a listened to Joe McCarthy and George Orwell I guess.
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Bingo^^^^ Besides, there are an awful lot of USFS roads around the Bug Stations.........................not that I would ever do that.
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men. In it is contentment In it is death and all you seek (Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
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And who's looking for him ? Do we really care ?
T R U M P W O N !
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I’d not gloat about anyone’s death by fire, ‘specially as this guy might not have been your average Loony Leftist. I’ll note he saved one place that others agree was worth saving.
Dunno anything else about the guy.
OK, an arsonist setting such a fire? wouldn't upset me if they died in it.
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Irony is the fact that his rabid antilogging likely contributed to the demise of his "sacred place".
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Irony is the stupid [bleep] posted in this thread, the man did his best to protect tens of thousands of acres of prime hunting and fishing land for all to enjoy and some of you mock him, WTF Have any of you done to make the outdoors a better place for your sons or daughters ?
This man likely died trying to protect what he loved, thats something a few of you might want to set your sights on !
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That's too bad. Hope those big trees make it.
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Bristoe is the "underground" !
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I’d not gloat about anyone’s death by fire, ‘specially as this guy might not have been your average Loony Leftist. I’ll note he saved one place that others agree was worth saving.
Dunno anything else about the guy.
OK, an arsonist setting such a fire? wouldn't upset me if they died in it. You're just grumpy because Caucasians have returned to Zimbabwe.
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And who's looking for him ? Do we really care ? Tikka -- I was being sarcastic. Shoulda posted IDGFart. We agree.
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Irony is the stupid [bleep] posted in this thread, the man did his best to protect tens of thousands of acres of prime hunting and fishing land for all to enjoy and some of you mock him, WTF Have any of you done to make the outdoors a better place for your sons or daughters ?
This man likely died trying to protect what he loved, thats something a few of you might want to set your sights on ! jimy The man doggedly tried to preserve the place in a static way, no tree removed, no leaf unturned, etc. This is impossible. The earth is an ever changing landscape, erosion, flood, volcanic flows/explosions, torrential rains, mudslides, and of course fire will alter the earth. Perhaps with careful thoughtful forestry management that magnificent forest would have fared better from the torch. If that fire has ravished that forest it will take decades if not centuries to ever return if it ever does. What will happen to those crystal waters now?
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You're a grandfathered in Oregonian, Geno.
Does this package include a non-extraditable warrant and the inability to think for yourself?
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Irony is the stupid [bleep] posted in this thread, the man did his best to protect tens of thousands of acres of prime hunting and fishing land for all to enjoy and some of you mock him, WTF Have any of you done to make the outdoors a better place for your sons or daughters ?
This man likely died trying to protect what he loved, thats something a few of you might want to set your sights on ! https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...-indifference-kindled-oregons-wildfires/But in recent decades, political power in Oregon has accumulated in urban Portland and its surrounding suburbs. Residents of these areas — insulated from the dangers of land mismanagement — have insisted on preserving the forests as untouchable playgrounds. Since 2001, the state has overprioritized recreation and environmentalist concerns such as ecotourism. As a result, Oregon’s forests were allowed to become overgrown, creating fire hazards. The state has screwed up so badly that, in November last year, it was ordered by a jury to pay Oregon’s rural counties $1.1 billion for failing to uphold its contractual obligations for responsible forest management.
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Irony is the stupid [bleep] posted in this thread, the man did his best to protect tens of thousands of acres of prime hunting and fishing land for all to enjoy and some of you mock him, WTF Have any of you done to make the outdoors a better place for your sons or daughters ?
This man likely died trying to protect what he loved, thats something a few of you might want to set your sights on ! https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...-indifference-kindled-oregons-wildfires/But in recent decades, political power in Oregon has accumulated in urban Portland and its surrounding suburbs. Residents of these areas — insulated from the dangers of land mismanagement — have insisted on preserving the forests as untouchable playgrounds. Since 2001, the state has overprioritized recreation and environmentalist concerns such as ecotourism. As a result, Oregon’s forests were allowed to become overgrown, creating fire hazards. The state has screwed up so badly that, in November last year, it was ordered by a jury to pay Oregon’s rural counties $1.1 billion for failing to uphold its contractual obligations for responsible forest management.I agree with that quote entirely.
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You're a grandfathered in Oregonian, Geno.
Does this package include a non-extraditable warrant and the inability to think for yourself? I would say GFY, but.. Naw. GFY.
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Get with it Val, sometimes the only way to save ANYTHING is to fire up the chainsaws and make some money creating defensible space. My heart is not broken over this, in fact, if Atiyeh in fact was immolated, there's a certain bitter justice. Too bad it wasn't Andy Kerr.
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Irony is the stupid [bleep] posted in this thread, the man did his best to protect tens of thousands of acres of prime hunting and fishing land for all to enjoy and some of you mock him, WTF Have any of you done to make the outdoors a better place for your sons or daughters ?
This man likely died trying to protect what he loved, thats something a few of you might want to set your sights on ! Let me get this straight. If they logged it it would no longer be good for hunting and fishing?
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Would it be wrong, ta drink a toast to the guy?
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Too bad it wasn't Andy Kerr. On that I agree. That said, when you're in the center of a town that burns every house to the ground (Talent, Detroit) how do you make a defensible space? My relatives restaurant in Detroit was surrounded by hundreds of feet of back-top (roads, hwy, parking lot). Hard to get more defensible than that. Only thing left is the sign in the middle of the parking lot. We had 35-65 mph winds. You can't defend against that.
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