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Highlead el Capital... LMAO!!

Central Park in NY has some dandy oak trees just sayin..

I get ya Boomer. Have a beer.

Karma's a bitch

We need to have a beer together some time.

Won't argue that Dave. In some circumstances the best way too.

But, I think the man wanted to preserve (yep, there's that sometimes nasty word) a particular portion of a system that was rapidly disappearing. THAT can't be done by logging it. Big trees like that will not grow back in your children's lifetime, their grandkids lifetimes, or even their grandkids grandkids lifetimes. Maybe take that section of forest he wanted to preserve and surround it with a bare dirt buffer 500' wide? Log that buffer and put in a lawn? Soccer fields maybe?

The sad fact of the matter is some folks want to see groves of trees and sections of forest that are relatively untouched by man since before the modern calendar started. Others see those forests as jobs and houses and paper pulp.

Jimy made a very valid point. If there's truly a shortage of lumber products in the US of A, why do I have pictures of barges loaded with logs and ready to go downriver to Japan? And that's just on the Columbia, not counting Coos Bay, places in AK, and Puget Sound. Would not all those logs make good wood products for the US of A, and maybe there would be a few more jobs here? Maybe we wouldn't have to import wood products from Canada?

I, for one, am really glad his predecessors in preserving big trees did such a good job with Redwood State and National Parks. Having spent multiple days there, being as how I lived in the area, I can tell everyone that's never seen one there is nothing, repeat nothing, like it in any area that's been logged. Having worked for a few years on 350,000+ acres of private timberlands I kinda know what I'm talking about there. And I've seen preserved areas in PA, WA, OR and AK, so I'd have to say the guy likely did the OR public a service in saving that particular patch of woods.

Could be they're all gone now? Yep. Could be whether man was involved or not, that section of woods could have gone up in any dry year. Odds of those trees standing through a fire event are a lot higher than them standing through a chainsaw event though.

I'll have to look up the Kerr dude. Don't know of him offhand.

Enjoy your evening up there.

Not so sure. Fires are more apt to settle down in old growth. More problems with the poorly managed 2nd and 3rd growth, and urban interface areas. But, yah f*ck, Muir, Leupold, Roosevelt, Shelton, Pulaski etal, fugging doogooders.

You big greenie, you!

I came to Idaho in 1983. Hunted all but seven years since then (college years). Did not see “old growth” forest until 2012 and it literally took my breath away. Ponderosa pines, no more than 7 or 8 to the acre, elk meadows, stunning. To walk out of dog hair pine into an open parkland like that is one of my most memorable experiences.

The only reason it exists is that it was about 100 acres on the Black Bird mine property, and didn’t get logged with the rest of it. And I loved hunting the rest of it, shot my first 6 point bull the next ridge over. But those ponderosas were something special.

I’m ok with not cutting it all. The boys in Alabama got lots of white pine that needs cutting.

There are ways to log land without turning it to crap.

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Let me get this straight. If they logged it it would no longer be good for hunting and fishing?

If you don't cut that stuff the Oregon fire bug commies will toss Molotov cocktails right smack dab in the middle of it and you end up with what you got right now.
e's a war going on in Oregon between the tree hugging commies and the molotov cocktail commies.

So far, the tree hugging commies seem to be suckin' hind tit in the matter.

Indeed. And generally speaking this was not done for the first 100 years of logging in the PNW. What's been needed for the past 4 decades, is overcoming that legacy, using the tools and knowledge we now have rather than cutting the remaining ancient groves. Man, there's a lifetime of timber out here on our public lands without touching anything over 150 years old.

Kentucky folk can only dream of such wilderness

Hell there aren't even mills that can handle big logs anymore. And then we export the good stuff and get the Home Depot chit. Dag burnit!


How about a Guinness NA? LOL