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I was just reading an article about China and in it the author said “We know that China is an authoritarian country ruled by the Communist Party and rejects liberal democratic values of free speech, rule of law and democracy“ and it got me thinking about the terms we use to describe ourselves and others politically, I’m an Australian and to me America is a country that was founded on very liberal ideas like the right to free speech, freedom of religion etc, and in recognition of this there are safeguards built in to your constitution to protect these rights and freedoms and limit interference by the government and others who might seek to curtail them, the second amendment for example, who are the real liberals? antifa call themselves liberals but they are promoting an ideology that is anything but liberal ie socialism, no socialist regime would ever allow these rights and freedoms and history proves it, the funny thing is no socialist regime in history would have given them the freedom to run around burning things and having tantrums either, Stalin would have sent them to the salt mines or just had them shot. Liberty and liberal both come from the latin word liber, meaning free, in his book “On Liberty” printed 1859 Stuart Mills defined liberty - people are and should be free to do whatever they like up to the point at which it keeps others from doing as they like, there doesn’t seem to be a lot of that sentiment displayed by the current crop of so called liberals.
what say you one and all?
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Good question, I'll watch this.
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The communists behind the scenes are very unhappy that America shines and makes their form of governance look so bad. They use idiots to destroy what they themselves hate.
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A liberal is just a kinder name for a democrat suffering from a continuous mental disorder.
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There's nothing liberal about democrats in the U.S., they're marxist totalitarians. I don't call them liberals, I call them leftists.
Anyone who is against individual liberty and advocates the confiscation of private property for government redistribution is by definition not liberal.
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I’m baffled that Soros and his boy are not in jail. Sedition, conspiracy, treason come to mind.
I am..........disturbed.
Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain
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Liberal is just another word for Marxist.
Ideas are far more powerful than guns, We dont let our people have guns. Why should we let them have ideas. "Joseph Stalin"
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Today's liberals (Progressives and Marxists) generally reject traditional, natural-law based morality and seek to eliminate the consequences of violating natural law. Progressives, especially, see things that remove some of the negative consequences of immoral behavior as making the behavior moral. For instance, a Progressive sees birth control as reversing the morality of fornication. A Marxist just wants to tear down traditional morality, consequences be damned. And so it goes for a number of subjects. A Progressive will see advances in computing, for instance, making it easier to track people and therefore the not only smart thing, but the right thing to do.
Progressives generally see themselves as being the smartest people in the room and think that if millions of people haven't been doing what the Progressive thinks is smart, then obviously the millions of people are dumber/racist/more evil than the Progressive. They never stop to think that there might be some compelling, if complicated, reasons why people do what they do or why a law is the way it is.
Generally, Progressives are smart, but extremely ignorant people who don't know what they don't know and therefore think they know it all.
Politics is War by Other Means
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Doesn't really matter anymore in America as communists self identify as liberals, liberals self identify as americans, blm self identify as human, antifa self identify as justice warriors...and Americans are flat out confused by the whole thing.
Even the Muslims are keeping their collective heads down and out of sight, about the only group stupid enough to call attention to themselves are the pretend Jews.
These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
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The use of the word "liberal" in the contest of today's reporting and common usage is an insult to any person with 3 or more brain cells.
The root of the word is liberty. And NOTHING could be more opposed to individual liberty then the hard-core communists, who call themselves "liberal". A communist calling himself a "liberal" is like Hitler calling himself Jew-friendly or Obama saying how much he loves Rush Limbaugh.
Like everything else they say, it's just an outright lie.
Lies are the only tool that can motivate anyone to join with the communist, because the truth is 100% opposite of everything the stand for.
I am not bashful in saying communism is SATANIC, and so are all it's rabid supporters.
"Cursed are those that call evil good and good evil."
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I’m baffled that Soros and his boy are not in jail. Sedition, conspiracy, treason come to mind. Soros has four sons.
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." **Edmund Burke**
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." **Benjamin Franklin**
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Because of the 24-hour news cycle’s sound byte obsession our vocabulary has been extremely dumbed-down.
Liberal, Progressive, and Marxist are as different as are Democratic, Republic, and Authoritarian but we use the first three and the first two in the second as if they’re virtually interchangeable but they’re not.
There was a time when those we called Liberal and those we called Conservative had similar views of what the country ought to look like but different philosophies as to how to get there.
Today those we call Liberals are Progressive Leftists and have a completely different idea of what the direction the country should go because they disagree with the foundational principles upon which Liberals & Conservatives recognizes as our valuable core.
There really aren’t any (Classical) Liberals or (Paleo) Conservatives left in politics at all today.
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I’m confused on something. Why do the rich people want communist rule. The commies want everybody the same. What a dream! The rich want to stay rich but they finance commies. They have more money than is possible to spend and the power to do whatever they want. As in child sex and drugs or anything else. What’s the real reason behind them? Edk
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I’m confused on something. Why do the rich people want communist rule. The commies want everybody the same. What a dream! The rich want to stay rich but they finance commies. They have more money than is possible to spend and the power to do whatever they want. As in child sex and drugs or anything else. What’s the real reason behind them? Edk Easier to discuss the workings of a woman's mind...and probably make more sense.
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The "liberals" are really leftist anarchists bent on making America a socialist country with a socialist federal government.
For liberals and anarchists, power and control is opium, selling envy is the fastest and easiest way to get it. TRR. American conservative. Never trust a white liberal. Malcom X Current NRA member.
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I’m confused on something. Why do the rich people want communist rule. The commies want everybody the same. What a dream! The rich want to stay rich but they finance commies. They have more money than is possible to spend and the power to do whatever they want. As in child sex and drugs or anything else. What’s the real reason behind them? Edk And to be honest the only thing the commies ever got right was to drag out all the nobs and hang them.
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Progressives are the most open minded, tolerant, and inclusive people on the planet, as long as you agree with everything they say, and do exactly as you're told.
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A democrat/republican anti-American/socialist/communist/marxist hating and destroying anything which was the USA.
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If things get dire.......Food.
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