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Frankly, whether they "work" or not, forcing someone to wear one (especially when they're NOT sick) is tyranny. Period.
If masks "work", then shouldn't we be forced to wear them all the time.. for everything? The flu. The cold. Everything else. Think of the lives that would be saved! And remember, if it saves just ONE life, it's all worth it!
People get sick. That's the way of the world. So people should be allowed to effect other peoples health? What about the personal responsibility? You never did explain that they do not work at all, your thoughts? Protecting your health is not my business. Don't try to make it so.
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"...Once again the masks can not prevent the microbes from spreading in itself, but they limit the distance the water vapor droplets that carry them can travel, thus slowing the spread.
What ya got my friend!..."
That's the problem that people think about the airborne spread being carried by "droplets". The vast majority of the water from breathing is in a vapor form which goes all around any opening between the fit of mask and our face. There is not concrete proof that mask work. A lot of people that are knowledgeable on viruses and their transmission do not advocate masks use. What about the constant touching of the masks and face of the wearer? ……… that in and of itself is an infection risk.
See this is the thing. Isro thinks he's being clever by redirecting the mask/no mask argument towards the notion that "they limit sneezes", claiming that it's rock-solid obvious that they limit sneezes. And anyone who disagrees with mask wearing are obviously disagreeing with his "rock-solid obvious truth" that they limit sneezes. The Straw Man. He also shows something here... "slowing the spread". This is the goal. The attempt to stretch this out as long as possible. Perhaps indefinitely. Claiming to "slow the spread" and "flatten the curve" can continue on forever. No real evidence needs to be shown, just the continued harping of "experts", and browbeating anyone who disagrees with these "experts". Masks may or may not have any effect whatsoever, but it doesn't matter, as long as you claim that they "slow the spread". Once again your not limiting sneezes like you posted above but rather the distance the sneeze travels, hence slowing the spread> Are you in favor of speeding up the spread?
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Frankly, whether they "work" or not, forcing someone to wear one (especially when they're NOT sick) is tyranny. Period.
If masks "work", then shouldn't we be forced to wear them all the time.. for everything? The flu. The cold. Everything else. Think of the lives that would be saved! And remember, if it saves just ONE life, it's all worth it!
People get sick. That's the way of the world. So people should be allowed to effect other peoples health? What about the personal responsibility? You never did explain that they do not work at all, your thoughts? Protecting your health is not my business. Don't try to make it so. Do you not want to protect the health of your fellow Americans, if doing so was possible?
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"...Once again the masks can not prevent the microbes from spreading in itself, but they limit the distance the water vapor droplets that carry them can travel, thus slowing the spread.
What ya got my friend!..."
That's the problem that people think about the airborne spread being carried by "droplets". The vast majority of the water from breathing is in a vapor form which goes all around any opening between the fit of mask and our face. There is not concrete proof that mask work. A lot of people that are knowledgeable on viruses and their transmission do not advocate masks use. What about the constant touching of the masks and face of the wearer? ……… that in and of itself is an infection risk.
See this is the thing. Isro thinks he's being clever by redirecting the mask/no mask argument towards the notion that "they limit sneezes", claiming that it's rock-solid obvious that they limit sneezes. And anyone who disagrees with mask wearing are obviously disagreeing with his "rock-solid obvious truth" that they limit sneezes. The Straw Man. He also shows something here... "slowing the spread". This is the goal. The attempt to stretch this out as long as possible. Perhaps indefinitely. Claiming to "slow the spread" and "flatten the curve" can continue on forever. No real evidence needs to be shown, just the continued harping of "experts", and browbeating anyone who disagrees with these "experts". Masks may or may not have any effect whatsoever, but it doesn't matter, as long as you claim that they "slow the spread". Once again your not limiting sneezes like you posted above but rather the distance the sneeze travels, hence slowing the spread> Are you in favor of speeding up the spread? Wow, there's another one!  ![[Linked Image from media.giphy.com]](https://media.giphy.com/media/xMBrXngBqrVD2/200.gif)
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"...Once again the masks can not prevent the microbes from spreading in itself, but they limit the distance the water vapor droplets that carry them can travel, thus slowing the spread.
What ya got my friend!..."
That's the problem that people think about the airborne spread being carried by "droplets". The vast majority of the water from breathing is in a vapor form which goes all around any opening between the fit of mask and our face. There is not concrete proof that mask work. A lot of people that are knowledgeable on viruses and their transmission do not advocate masks use. What about the constant touching of the masks and face of the wearer? ……… that in and of itself is an infection risk.
See this is the thing. Isro thinks he's being clever by redirecting the mask/no mask argument towards the notion that "they limit sneezes", claiming that it's rock-solid obvious that they limit sneezes. And anyone who disagrees with mask wearing are obviously disagreeing with his "rock-solid obvious truth" that they limit sneezes. The Straw Man. He also shows something here... "slowing the spread". This is the goal. The attempt to stretch this out as long as possible. Perhaps indefinitely. Claiming to "slow the spread" and "flatten the curve" can continue on forever. No real evidence needs to be shown, just the continued harping of "experts", and browbeating anyone who disagrees with these "experts". Masks may or may not have any effect whatsoever, but it doesn't matter, as long as you claim that they "slow the spread". Once again your not limiting sneezes like you posted above but rather the distance the sneeze travels, hence slowing the spread> Are you in favor of speeding up the spread? Are you in favor of govt mandated hand washing protocols? Why masks and not legislation to force hand washing? What about an outright ban on unprotected homosexual sex since it’s proven to cause the AIDS virus?
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Slaves get what they need. Free men get what they want. Rehabilitation is way overrated. Orwell wasn't wrong. GOA member disappointed NRA member 24HCF SEARCH
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Bingo! We have a winner.
Believe this guy has 32 posts in 32 minutes.
Slaves get what they need. Free men get what they want. Rehabilitation is way overrated. Orwell wasn't wrong. GOA member disappointed NRA member 24HCF SEARCH
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You good gents need to stop feeding this passive/aggressive troll. Wait for it!
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"...Once again the masks can not prevent the microbes from spreading in itself, but they limit the distance the water vapor droplets that carry them can travel, thus slowing the spread.
What ya got my friend!..."
That's the problem that people think about the airborne spread being carried by "droplets". The vast majority of the water from breathing is in a vapor form which goes all around any opening between the fit of mask and our face. There is not concrete proof that mask work. A lot of people that are knowledgeable on viruses and their transmission do not advocate masks use. What about the constant touching of the masks and face of the wearer? ……… that in and of itself is an infection risk.
See this is the thing. Isro thinks he's being clever by redirecting the mask/no mask argument towards the notion that "they limit sneezes", claiming that it's rock-solid obvious that they limit sneezes. And anyone who disagrees with mask wearing are obviously disagreeing with his "rock-solid obvious truth" that they limit sneezes. The Straw Man. He also shows something here... "slowing the spread". This is the goal. The attempt to stretch this out as long as possible. Perhaps indefinitely. Claiming to "slow the spread" and "flatten the curve" can continue on forever. No real evidence needs to be shown, just the continued harping of "experts", and browbeating anyone who disagrees with these "experts". Masks may or may not have any effect whatsoever, but it doesn't matter, as long as you claim that they "slow the spread". Once again your not limiting sneezes like you posted above but rather the distance the sneeze travels, hence slowing the spread> Are you in favor of speeding up the spread? Are you in favor of govt mandated hand washing protocols? Why masks and not legislation to force hand washing? What about an outright ban on unprotected homosexual sex since it’s proven to cause the AIDS virus? Do you have an issue with other people touching you on a regular basis at the store, gas station, car dealership, clinic etc......... I didn't think so, so that argument is flat. I didn't think one would have to explain the difference between the limiting sneezes/coughs and touching someone randomly which I do believe is covered by law.
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You good gents need to stop feeding this passive/aggressive troll. Wait for it! I usually don't, but this time, I couldn't help myself! I'm done now, though. 
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Frankly, whether they "work" or not, forcing someone to wear one (especially when they're NOT sick) is tyranny. Period.
If masks "work", then shouldn't we be forced to wear them all the time.. for everything? The flu. The cold. Everything else. Think of the lives that would be saved! And remember, if it saves just ONE life, it's all worth it!
People get sick. That's the way of the world. So people should be allowed to effect other peoples health? What about the personal responsibility? You never did explain that they do not work at all, your thoughts? Protecting your health is not my business. Don't try to make it so. Do you not want to protect the health of your fellow Americans, if doing so was possible? Frankly, whether they "work" or not, forcing someone to wear one (especially when they're NOT sick) is tyranny. Period.
If masks "work", then shouldn't we be forced to wear them all the time.. for everything? The flu. The cold. Everything else. Think of the lives that would be saved! And remember, if it saves just ONE life, it's all worth it!
People get sick. That's the way of the world. So people should be allowed to effect other peoples health? What about the personal responsibility? You never did explain that they do not work at all, your thoughts? Protecting your health is not my business. Don't try to make it so. Do you not want to protect the health of your fellow Americans, if doing so was possible? Honestly, if “protecting” someone, (meaning “keeping them from experiencing mild flu symptoms” which is the extent for the vast majority of folks that contract the virus) means my business goes bankrupt, the nations economy contracts to dangerous levels, schools are shut down causing our children to not only lose invaluable education opportunities but also the risk of psychological damage and my liberty is once again under attack by the government.... Then no. No I do not want to protect someone else’s health.
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That is a cute meme in theory, but what happens when you become asymptomatic and infect a person who is trying to take precautions as they may have a underlying health condition?
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Frankly, whether they "work" or not, forcing someone to wear one (especially when they're NOT sick) is tyranny. Period.
If masks "work", then shouldn't we be forced to wear them all the time.. for everything? The flu. The cold. Everything else. Think of the lives that would be saved! And remember, if it saves just ONE life, it's all worth it!
People get sick. That's the way of the world. So people should be allowed to effect other peoples health? What about the personal responsibility? You never did explain that they do not work at all, your thoughts? Protecting your health is not my business. Don't try to make it so. Do you not want to protect the health of your fellow Americans, if doing so was possible? Read between the lines. YOUR HEALTH IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY! I sure as hell am not going to give up freedoms to "protect" the likes of someone you.
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"...Once again the masks can not prevent the microbes from spreading in itself, but they limit the distance the water vapor droplets that carry them can travel, thus slowing the spread.
What ya got my friend!..."
That's the problem that people think about the airborne spread being carried by "droplets". The vast majority of the water from breathing is in a vapor form which goes all around any opening between the fit of mask and our face. There is not concrete proof that mask work. A lot of people that are knowledgeable on viruses and their transmission do not advocate masks use. What about the constant touching of the masks and face of the wearer? ……… that in and of itself is an infection risk.
See this is the thing. Isro thinks he's being clever by redirecting the mask/no mask argument towards the notion that "they limit sneezes", claiming that it's rock-solid obvious that they limit sneezes. And anyone who disagrees with mask wearing are obviously disagreeing with his "rock-solid obvious truth" that they limit sneezes. The Straw Man. He also shows something here... "slowing the spread". This is the goal. The attempt to stretch this out as long as possible. Perhaps indefinitely. Claiming to "slow the spread" and "flatten the curve" can continue on forever. No real evidence needs to be shown, just the continued harping of "experts", and browbeating anyone who disagrees with these "experts". Masks may or may not have any effect whatsoever, but it doesn't matter, as long as you claim that they "slow the spread". Once again your not limiting sneezes like you posted above but rather the distance the sneeze travels, hence slowing the spread> Are you in favor of speeding up the spread? Are you in favor of govt mandated hand washing protocols? Why masks and not legislation to force hand washing? What about an outright ban on unprotected homosexual sex since it’s proven to cause the AIDS virus? Do you have an issue with other people touching you on a regular basis at the store, gas station, car dealership, clinic etc......... I didn't think so, so that argument is flat. I didn't think one would have to explain the difference between the limiting sneezes/coughs and touching someone randomly which I do believe is covered by law. Do you not touch things touched by hundreds/thousands of other folks? You don’t touch the handle of the pump at the gas station, the keypad on the credit card machine, handle products in the grocery store that someone else handled, doorknobs, shopping carts?
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I think everyone is responsible for their own health. Masks don’t do anything but give a false sense of well being to the gullible. Putting a mask on doesn’t do anything if I’m coughing and sneezing into my hands and touching doors, etc in the store. This is the first time I history we’ve quarantined healthy people. It’s simply government overreach. If you’re scared of catching a bug, stay home. Order your groceries and have them delivered. Let those of us that aren’t scared, go live life. Stay in your bubble and disinfect as you please. The people that feel they’re at risk can do as they please within the confines of their home. All the government is doing, is putting things in place that will ultimately Cause the weakening of our immune systems. I haven’t heard one person in government make any recommendations to help people improve their immune systems. Simple things like taking vitamins, exercising, eating properly and going outside to get some fresh air and sunlight. If you’re a big enough sucker to believe that Wearing masks and limiting freedoms will make this go away....well there’s no sense in having a discussion because you’re a retard.
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You didn't just post that as an argument did you?
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You can blow snot all over the other team while playing foot ball.
But you have to wear a mask to sit on the bench.
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