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The masks arent helping anything.
But you ladies go ahead and mask up.
Then why are health care workers wearing them? Because they have training in ppe and BSI. You and the other Karens dont. Why do they need it JimConrad, as you say it does no good. You might want to tell the health care industry your significant findings, potentially you could save them millions in ppe costs that are evidently not needed or warranted according to you.
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I'm not so sure that requiring people to wear masks is not against the law. There's a lot of disabled Americans that read lips because they can't hear. My thinking believes there's definitely enough discrimination happening for a class action lawsuit.
The Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) became law in 1990. The ADA is a civil rights law that prohibits discrimination against individuals with disabilities in all areas of public life, including jobs, schools, transportation, and all public and private places that are open to the general public.
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If you think that the people at Subway are doing a good job with their PPE.......please....wear your mask at all times.
That way we can spot the mask wearing retards.
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If you think that the people at Subway are doing a good job with their PPE.......please....wear your mask at all times.
That way we can spot the mask wearing retards. Would you prefer they made your sandwich without it on?
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Sonny, you know your own state supremes just stripped your governor of her power to do exactly that. And all to the delight of the Right(eous). And the even more local mayor are being shelled by Triple R (Righteous Right Republicans), when they attempt even more local protocol mandates. So, you ain't cuttin' the mustard laddy.
Like I said, if you prefer despotism please go someplace else; there are many places where individuals can Lord their power over the masses. But don’t bring that attitude here where we have rules and processes to stop such over reach. I suggest Venezuela. Bye! Once again, you lost. You can't even avoid contradicting yourself. Now once again, tell us how local, state, or federal mask mandates are worse than speed limits and yet Covid is killing at a rate that is about 10-100 times greater (really probably 10s of thousands of times greater) than speeding? Come on, tell us. Then Jimmie is going to tell us how he knows that masks not only don't help but make things even worse. Hurry up! I'm taking notes...
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The masks arent helping anything.
But you ladies go ahead and mask up.
Then why are health care workers wearing them? Because they have training in ppe and BSI. You and the other Karens dont. Why do they need it JimConrad, as you say it does no good. You might want to tell the health care industry your significant findings, potentially you could save them millions in ppe costs that are evidently not needed or warranted according to you. Hehehe.....if you swallow your hemorrhoid suppoitory IRSO......have you used it properly? If you are using something incorrectly or in an unsafe manner you are not helping anything. Jeebus....go lay down.
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The masks arent helping anything.
But you ladies go ahead and mask up.
Notice how the troll ignored the direct question asking for the scientific analysis of the types of masks most people wear under the mask mandates? Here's a hint as to why she won't respond... From the CDC: "More research on cloth masks is needed to inform their use as an alternative to surgical masks/respirators in the event of shortage or high-demand situations. To our knowledge, only 1 randomized controlled trial (4) has been conducted to examine the efficacy of cloth masks in healthcare settings, and the results do not favor use of cloth masks. More randomized controlled trials should be conducted in community settings to test the efficacy of cloth masks against respiratory infections. According to the US Institute of Medicine, National Academy of Sciences, more research on the engineering design of cloth masks to enhance their filtration and fit is needed (16). Moreover, various methods for decontaminating cloth masks should be tested." The full report basically said that cloth masks are very effective as a placebo and can be useful to prevent mass hysteria, but there is no scientific evidence that a cloth mask prevents the spread of this particular virus (or others that appear similar). Just remember, you can satisfy the mask mandate by putting a t-shirt over your face. As the CDC admitted, there is no proof that cloth masks are effective against the virus, let alone the types of cloth masks most people will use.
Eliminate qualified immunity and you'll eliminate cops who act like they are above the law.
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Sonny, you know your own state supremes just stripped your governor of her power to do exactly that. And all to the delight of the Right(eous). And the even more local mayor are being shelled by Triple R (Righteous Right Republicans), when they attempt even more local protocol mandates. So, you ain't cuttin' the mustard laddy.
Like I said, if you prefer despotism please go someplace else; there are many places where individuals can Lord their power over the masses. But don’t bring that attitude here where we have rules and processes to stop such over reach. I suggest Venezuela. Bye! Once again, you lost. You can't even avoid contradicting yourself. Now once again, tell us how local, state, or federal mask mandates are worse than speed limits and yet Covid is killing at a rate that is about 10-100 times greater (really probably 10s of thousands of times greater) than speeding? Come on, tell us. Then Jimmie is going to tell us how he knows that masks not only don't help but make things even worse. Hurry up! I'm taking notes... Already did kitten.
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The masks arent helping anything.
But you ladies go ahead and mask up.
Notice how the troll ignored the direct question asking for the scientific analysis of the types of masks most people wear under the mask mandates? Here's a hint as to why she won't respond... From the CDC: "More research on cloth masks is needed to inform their use as an alternative to surgical masks/respirators in the event of shortage or high-demand situations. To our knowledge, only 1 randomized controlled trial (4) has been conducted to examine the efficacy of cloth masks in healthcare settings, and the results do not favor use of cloth masks. More randomized controlled trials should be conducted in community settings to test the efficacy of cloth masks against respiratory infections. According to the US Institute of Medicine, National Academy of Sciences, more research on the engineering design of cloth masks to enhance their filtration and fit is needed (16). Moreover, various methods for decontaminating cloth masks should be tested." The full report basically said that cloth masks are very effective as a placebo and can be useful to prevent mass hysteria, but there is no scientific evidence that a cloth mask prevents the spread of this particular virus (or others that appear similar). Just remember, you can satisfy the mask mandate by putting a t-shirt over your face. As the CDC admitted, there is no proof that cloth masks are effective against the virus, let alone the types of cloth masks most people will use.
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All the “experts” say is..
Wash your hands
Wear a mask
Don’t touch your face.
90 percent of the people wearing a mask don’t wear it right and are constantly touching their face. Touching groceries, door knobs whatever and then their face again. [bleep] that mask.
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If you want to test your mask, pull it tight across your azzhole and let a fart. wait five minutes and sniff . if you can smell your fart your mask is not working..
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So people should be allowed to effect other peoples health? What about the personal responsibility?
You never did explain that they do not work at all, your thoughts?
Troll, you're here to play with semantics agains. eh? Personal responsibility? When is it my personal responsibility to protect you? You want make everybody their brother's keeper. Should I run over to your house and snatch unhealthy food from your mouth? "No salty junk food, mister! No red meat! Only soy and plant based bullshit for you!" No different. Tell me WHY we should wear masks, troll? Will it STOP the transmission of Covid completely? No, it won't. Best it can do is slow it. Why is it wise to slow it? Our healthcare system is ready to handle the pandemic now. This isn't March, 2020. We have PPE, ventilators and treatments ready to role. Why slow it? The last 4 respiratory pandemics ran their course in about 18-20 months. We are about 10 months into this. If left alone, the pandemic will probably be "over" by this time next year...unless the normal course of the disease is slowed! Why do want to slow it? (Beside it is an election year?) To wait for a vaccine? Are you going to tell me that a vaccine will be safe. effective and ready to distribute by January 2021, and you can give out 200 million doses by next Labor Day? It will be a race between herd immunity and the vaccine for the masses. Slowing it without the vaccine ready to go only spreads teh total number of cases over a longer time period. Without a vaccine or herd immunity, the virus lingers and just waits for hosts. A mask does not make the virus go away.
So what is your end game with slowing the spread? Healthcare collapse? Miracle vaccine saves the planet next week? Tell me, bro! Do you wear a mask in your office? I'm guessing your all masked up, but most here do not know what you do. Game up Boss! I personally don't want to see the health care field get overwhelmed as I have family members who work in the hospitals and they are getting really concerned about the amount of rising admissions currently. Would you like to see 10 people that need treatment at your office or 150? Remember you're only spreading it out longer! Did dentists where masks before Covid the answer is yes so your argument is baseless. It’s idiots like you who believe the BS and that’s why it’s going on as long as it has. You’re just another dumbass troll and no one and I mean no one here gives a 💩 what you post here. Remember they do not protect anyone right? Why is our resident dentist wearing one at work? I mean really, he should stand for his freedom and refuse to wear it.Why are people in his office wearing one now?
Why are the patients wearing them in the waiting area?They do not work according to Hatari, so why wear them? Hmmmmmmmmm! Playing word games again? My professional obligation is not part of the discussion. For that matter, I’ve worn PPE for 40 years. What we are talking about is what is my personal (not professional obligation) to you or anyone else. Go back do I have an obligation to make you drive safely? Eat healthy? Exercise? I call you on your Schlick and this is all you can do?
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The masks arent helping anything.
But you ladies go ahead and mask up.
Notice how the troll ignored the direct question asking for the scientific analysis of the types of masks most people wear under the mask mandates? Here's a hint as to why she won't respond... From the CDC: "More research on cloth masks is needed to inform their use as an alternative to surgical masks/respirators in the event of shortage or high-demand situations. To our knowledge, only 1 randomized controlled trial (4) has been conducted to examine the efficacy of cloth masks in healthcare settings, and the results do not favor use of cloth masks. More randomized controlled trials should be conducted in community settings to test the efficacy of cloth masks against respiratory infections. According to the US Institute of Medicine, National Academy of Sciences, more research on the engineering design of cloth masks to enhance their filtration and fit is needed (16). Moreover, various methods for decontaminating cloth masks should be tested." The full report basically said that cloth masks are very effective as a placebo and can be useful to prevent mass hysteria, but there is no scientific evidence that a cloth mask prevents the spread of this particular virus (or others that appear similar). Just remember, you can satisfy the mask mandate by putting a t-shirt over your face. As the CDC admitted, there is no proof that cloth masks are effective against the virus, let alone the types of cloth masks most people will use. That's not a scientific study. That's guidance, much like the guidance earlier in the year saying masks shouldn't be worn. Try again.
Eliminate qualified immunity and you'll eliminate cops who act like they are above the law.
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The masks arent helping anything.
But you ladies go ahead and mask up.
Notice how the troll ignored the direct question asking for the scientific analysis of the types of masks most people wear under the mask mandates? Here's a hint as to why she won't respond... From the CDC: "More research on cloth masks is needed to inform their use as an alternative to surgical masks/respirators in the event of shortage or high-demand situations. To our knowledge, only 1 randomized controlled trial (4) has been conducted to examine the efficacy of cloth masks in healthcare settings, and the results do not favor use of cloth masks. More randomized controlled trials should be conducted in community settings to test the efficacy of cloth masks against respiratory infections. According to the US Institute of Medicine, National Academy of Sciences, more research on the engineering design of cloth masks to enhance their filtration and fit is needed (16). Moreover, various methods for decontaminating cloth masks should be tested." The full report basically said that cloth masks are very effective as a placebo and can be useful to prevent mass hysteria, but there is no scientific evidence that a cloth mask prevents the spread of this particular virus (or others that appear similar). Just remember, you can satisfy the mask mandate by putting a t-shirt over your face. As the CDC admitted, there is no proof that cloth masks are effective against the virus, let alone the types of cloth masks most people will use. That's not a scientific study. That's guidance, much like the guidance earlier in the year saying masks shouldn't be worn. Try again. And the guidance is from? The guys on 24hour.................laughing
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All the “experts” say is..
Wash your hands
Wear a mask
Don’t touch your face.
90 percent of the people wearing a mask don’t wear it right and are constantly touching their face. Touching groceries, door knobs whatever and then their face again. [bleep] that mask. Hahaha! If it saves just one.....ooops might get someone killed. Never mind.
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The masks arent helping anything.
But you ladies go ahead and mask up.
Notice how the troll ignored the direct question asking for the scientific analysis of the types of masks most people wear under the mask mandates? Here's a hint as to why she won't respond... From the CDC: "More research on cloth masks is needed to inform their use as an alternative to surgical masks/respirators in the event of shortage or high-demand situations. To our knowledge, only 1 randomized controlled trial (4) has been conducted to examine the efficacy of cloth masks in healthcare settings, and the results do not favor use of cloth masks. More randomized controlled trials should be conducted in community settings to test the efficacy of cloth masks against respiratory infections. According to the US Institute of Medicine, National Academy of Sciences, more research on the engineering design of cloth masks to enhance their filtration and fit is needed (16). Moreover, various methods for decontaminating cloth masks should be tested." The full report basically said that cloth masks are very effective as a placebo and can be useful to prevent mass hysteria, but there is no scientific evidence that a cloth mask prevents the spread of this particular virus (or others that appear similar). Just remember, you can satisfy the mask mandate by putting a t-shirt over your face. As the CDC admitted, there is no proof that cloth masks are effective against the virus, let alone the types of cloth masks most people will use. That's not a scientific study. That's guidance, much like the guidance earlier in the year saying masks shouldn't be worn. Try again. And the guidance is from? The guys on 24hour.................laughing You can't cite a scientific study because there isn't one that supports your claim. Instead, the scientific study says this: "The general public should be educated about mask use because cloth masks may give users a false sense of protection because of their limited protection against acquiring infection (16). Correctly putting on and taking off cloth masks improves protection (Table). Taking a mask off is a high-risk process (34) because pathogens may be present on the outer surface of the mask and may result in self-contamination during removal (31)." This is the science.
Eliminate qualified immunity and you'll eliminate cops who act like they are above the law.
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The masks arent helping anything.
But you ladies go ahead and mask up.
Notice how the troll ignored the direct question asking for the scientific analysis of the types of masks most people wear under the mask mandates? Here's a hint as to why she won't respond... From the CDC: "More research on cloth masks is needed to inform their use as an alternative to surgical masks/respirators in the event of shortage or high-demand situations. To our knowledge, only 1 randomized controlled trial (4) has been conducted to examine the efficacy of cloth masks in healthcare settings, and the results do not favor use of cloth masks. More randomized controlled trials should be conducted in community settings to test the efficacy of cloth masks against respiratory infections. According to the US Institute of Medicine, National Academy of Sciences, more research on the engineering design of cloth masks to enhance their filtration and fit is needed (16). Moreover, various methods for decontaminating cloth masks should be tested." The full report basically said that cloth masks are very effective as a placebo and can be useful to prevent mass hysteria, but there is no scientific evidence that a cloth mask prevents the spread of this particular virus (or others that appear similar). Just remember, you can satisfy the mask mandate by putting a t-shirt over your face. As the CDC admitted, there is no proof that cloth masks are effective against the virus, let alone the types of cloth masks most people will use. That's not a scientific study. That's guidance, much like the guidance earlier in the year saying masks shouldn't be worn. Try again. And the guidance is from? The guys on 24hour.................laughing You can't cite a scientific study because there isn't one that supports your claim. Instead, the scientific study says this: "The general public should be educated about mask use because cloth masks may give users a false sense of protection because of their limited protection against acquiring infection (16). Correctly putting on and taking off cloth masks improves protection (Table). Taking a mask off is a high-risk process (34) because pathogens may be present on the outer surface of the mask and may result in self-contamination during removal (31)." This is the science. Your move next Boss https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/4...es-science-behind-how-face-masks-prevent
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The masks arent helping anything.
But you ladies go ahead and mask up.
Notice how the troll ignored the direct question asking for the scientific analysis of the types of masks most people wear under the mask mandates? Here's a hint as to why she won't respond... From the CDC: "More research on cloth masks is needed to inform their use as an alternative to surgical masks/respirators in the event of shortage or high-demand situations. To our knowledge, only 1 randomized controlled trial (4) has been conducted to examine the efficacy of cloth masks in healthcare settings, and the results do not favor use of cloth masks. More randomized controlled trials should be conducted in community settings to test the efficacy of cloth masks against respiratory infections. According to the US Institute of Medicine, National Academy of Sciences, more research on the engineering design of cloth masks to enhance their filtration and fit is needed (16). Moreover, various methods for decontaminating cloth masks should be tested." The full report basically said that cloth masks are very effective as a placebo and can be useful to prevent mass hysteria, but there is no scientific evidence that a cloth mask prevents the spread of this particular virus (or others that appear similar). Just remember, you can satisfy the mask mandate by putting a t-shirt over your face. As the CDC admitted, there is no proof that cloth masks are effective against the virus, let alone the types of cloth masks most people will use. That's not a scientific study. That's guidance, much like the guidance earlier in the year saying masks shouldn't be worn. Try again. And the guidance is from? The guys on 24hour.................laughing You can't cite a scientific study because there isn't one that supports your claim. Instead, the scientific study says this: "The general public should be educated about mask use because cloth masks may give users a false sense of protection because of their limited protection against acquiring infection (16). Correctly putting on and taking off cloth masks improves protection (Table). Taking a mask off is a high-risk process (34) because pathogens may be present on the outer surface of the mask and may result in self-contamination during removal (31)." This is the science. Your move next Boss https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/4...es-science-behind-how-face-masks-preventStill no scientific studies, cause there are none. All you can find is informal guidance, the same type of guidance that recommended against mask use earlier this year. Show us the science, not op-eds.
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The masks arent helping anything.
But you ladies go ahead and mask up.
Notice how the troll ignored the direct question asking for the scientific analysis of the types of masks most people wear under the mask mandates? Here's a hint as to why she won't respond... From the CDC: "More research on cloth masks is needed to inform their use as an alternative to surgical masks/respirators in the event of shortage or high-demand situations. To our knowledge, only 1 randomized controlled trial (4) has been conducted to examine the efficacy of cloth masks in healthcare settings, and the results do not favor use of cloth masks. More randomized controlled trials should be conducted in community settings to test the efficacy of cloth masks against respiratory infections. According to the US Institute of Medicine, National Academy of Sciences, more research on the engineering design of cloth masks to enhance their filtration and fit is needed (16). Moreover, various methods for decontaminating cloth masks should be tested." The full report basically said that cloth masks are very effective as a placebo and can be useful to prevent mass hysteria, but there is no scientific evidence that a cloth mask prevents the spread of this particular virus (or others that appear similar). Just remember, you can satisfy the mask mandate by putting a t-shirt over your face. As the CDC admitted, there is no proof that cloth masks are effective against the virus, let alone the types of cloth masks most people will use. That's not a scientific study. That's guidance, much like the guidance earlier in the year saying masks shouldn't be worn. Try again. This is https://www.pnas.org/content/117/26/14857Strike three.
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