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We need to train our dogs for that kind of stuff. Put them on the bow and watch which way their noses go!


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Originally Posted by ironbender
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I know folks here that buy an extra freezer just for hooligan... and prefer them over all other fish.

They are good fish, really good about once a year...

The hoolies I’ve had did not impress enough to name the walk to dip them.

Highest and best use? Candles! wink


Guessing you AK folks are talking about eulachon (candle fish)? Didn't know you were still allowed to harvest them.


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Originally Posted by Valsdad
We need to train our dogs for that kind of stuff. Put them on the bow and watch which way their noses go!



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I seriously want to head over to Japan to fish for bait. Heck see if I can the fish that bait eat...

Micro fishing for Tanago. Using the traditional method for Ayu fishing. Then head on up into the mountains for Amago, Yamame and Iwana. Now it seems like I'd have to try fishing for Pond Smelt...



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We used to dip them out of the St Clair river by the net fulls. Hated cleaning 5 gallon buckets full of them but they were dang tasty fried up.


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When I was a kid we would net garbage cans full of them out of lake Huron just north of Saginaw bay. Sadly, zebra mussels have reduced their numbers greatly.

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We need to train our dogs for that kind of stuff. Put them on the bow and watch which way their noses go!

Imagine the phu cken' money you'd make if you could breed pointers that would point trout.

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Originally Posted by kamo_gari
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We need to train our dogs for that kind of stuff. Put them on the bow and watch which way their noses go!










That's hilarious!

Don't try that in Maine I bet.


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Kamo is right—whitefish and smelt packed fresh in the ice smell just like fresh cucumbers.

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Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by ironbender
Originally Posted by Sitka deer
I know folks here that buy an extra freezer just for hooligan... and prefer them over all other fish.

They are good fish, really good about once a year...

The hoolies I’ve had did not impress enough to name the walk to dip them.

Highest and best use? Candles! wink


Guessing you AK folks are talking about eulachon (candle fish)? Didn't know you were still allowed to harvest them.

Yeah. The people are a hazard on turnagain arm in the spring for a couple weeks.


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Originally Posted by kamo_gari
Originally Posted by Valsdad
To some in certain places, like the Midwest k_g, fish are supposed to taste like nothing, except perhaps whatever spices are in the coating they're fried in.

Funny that fish can smell like vegetables, eh? Seems some folks can find schools of sunfish by finding the cucumber smell. Or maybe it's watermelon?

Thanks for the info re: flour, just like trout up in the Sierras when I was a young man.

Eating bait? Well, I'd hate to count the number of sardines I've eaten over the year, along with a few mackerel, and the best bait in the world for largemouth and inland striped bass................planted rainbow trout!



Yep, to be sure, some folks have some interesting ideas about how certain things should taste. And for lots of inlanders/landlockeders, it often seems that things like farmed tilapia are at the pinnacle of the delish-fish spectrum. King of the cardboard in both taste and texture, that one. smile Ate a couple bites once. Never again. Give me a simple piece of broiled or smoked mackerel, bluefish, herring or any oily fish any day. You know, the kind that actually tastes like, well, fish...

Absolutely on using smells to locate fish. You can sometimes get into water when searching for stripers on the coast, and you can 100% smell when fish are there below. Cucumber and watermelon are the two most common smells associated with fish around here. I read somewhere that certain molecules from the fish--either the fish we target themselves or that which they are pursuing and eating--are released and rise in the water column to the surface where the smell can be picked up by we two leggers.

The scent of a fresh bait slick is ANISE. I don’t know where cucumber and watermelon are coming from. Unless that’s a west coast thing. Like the nasty oysters there taste.

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Aren't farmed tilapia harvested from sewage disposal systems in third world locations?
Won't touch one nor any of the imported seafood from Asia.

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Originally Posted by ironbender
Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by ironbender
Originally Posted by Sitka deer
I know folks here that buy an extra freezer just for hooligan... and prefer them over all other fish.

They are good fish, really good about once a year...

The hoolies I’ve had did not impress enough to name the walk to dip them.

Highest and best use? Candles! wink


Guessing you AK folks are talking about eulachon (candle fish)? Didn't know you were still allowed to harvest them.

Yeah. The people are a hazard on turnagain arm in the spring for a couple weeks.



interesting ironbender.

Seems they're off limit in Cali, but some harvest is now allowed in OR and WA. AK is always special as you well know. wink


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Originally Posted by Valsdad
Interesting little shelters they have. All for some little fish. But I love smelt and wish I had some now that I've seen the video.

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/ondemand/video/3019101/?cid=wohk-fb-org_vod_fishingcazy_ioi-202003-001%3Fcid%3Dwohk-fb-org_vod_fc_ii-202010-001&fbclid=IwAR0ZE3l2ee8IpQ76RjLw8t5FPhv6lcDArTj5xthKK_MkTfvgQ70W3VnIBGg




I am pleased they are not here for there would be nothing left in the water.


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Originally Posted by Mr_Harry
Originally Posted by kamo_gari
Originally Posted by Valsdad
To some in certain places, like the Midwest k_g, fish are supposed to taste like nothing, except perhaps whatever spices are in the coating they're fried in.

Funny that fish can smell like vegetables, eh? Seems some folks can find schools of sunfish by finding the cucumber smell. Or maybe it's watermelon?

Thanks for the info re: flour, just like trout up in the Sierras when I was a young man.

Eating bait? Well, I'd hate to count the number of sardines I've eaten over the year, along with a few mackerel, and the best bait in the world for largemouth and inland striped bass................planted rainbow trout!



Yep, to be sure, some folks have some interesting ideas about how certain things should taste. And for lots of inlanders/landlockeders, it often seems that things like farmed tilapia are at the pinnacle of the delish-fish spectrum. King of the cardboard in both taste and texture, that one. smile Ate a couple bites once. Never again. Give me a simple piece of broiled or smoked mackerel, bluefish, herring or any oily fish any day. You know, the kind that actually tastes like, well, fish...

Absolutely on using smells to locate fish. You can sometimes get into water when searching for stripers on the coast, and you can 100% smell when fish are there below. Cucumber and watermelon are the two most common smells associated with fish around here. I read somewhere that certain molecules from the fish--either the fish we target themselves or that which they are pursuing and eating--are released and rise in the water column to the surface where the smell can be picked up by we two leggers.

The scent of a fresh bait slick is ANISE. I don’t know where cucumber and watermelon are coming from. Unless that’s a west coast thing. Like the nasty oysters there taste.
i got some oysters today that were from the west coast, tasted like chit.


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Originally Posted by stxhunter
Originally Posted by Mr_Harry
Originally Posted by kamo_gari
Originally Posted by Valsdad
To some in certain places, like the Midwest k_g, fish are supposed to taste like nothing, except perhaps whatever spices are in the coating they're fried in.

Funny that fish can smell like vegetables, eh? Seems some folks can find schools of sunfish by finding the cucumber smell. Or maybe it's watermelon?

Thanks for the info re: flour, just like trout up in the Sierras when I was a young man.

Eating bait? Well, I'd hate to count the number of sardines I've eaten over the year, along with a few mackerel, and the best bait in the world for largemouth and inland striped bass................planted rainbow trout!



Yep, to be sure, some folks have some interesting ideas about how certain things should taste. And for lots of inlanders/landlockeders, it often seems that things like farmed tilapia are at the pinnacle of the delish-fish spectrum. King of the cardboard in both taste and texture, that one. smile Ate a couple bites once. Never again. Give me a simple piece of broiled or smoked mackerel, bluefish, herring or any oily fish any day. You know, the kind that actually tastes like, well, fish...

Absolutely on using smells to locate fish. You can sometimes get into water when searching for stripers on the coast, and you can 100% smell when fish are there below. Cucumber and watermelon are the two most common smells associated with fish around here. I read somewhere that certain molecules from the fish--either the fish we target themselves or that which they are pursuing and eating--are released and rise in the water column to the surface where the smell can be picked up by we two leggers.

The scent of a fresh bait slick is ANISE. I don’t know where cucumber and watermelon are coming from. Unless that’s a west coast thing. Like the nasty oysters there taste.
i got some oysters today that were from the west coast, tasted like chit.



The ones in the jar?

Knew a guy when I lived on the coast of NorCal that worked on an oyster farm. Would get gunny sacks and they were yummy. Of course, they were less than a day old.


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Originally Posted by kamo_gari
Originally Posted by Valsdad
To some in certain places, like the Midwest k_g, fish are supposed to taste like nothing, except perhaps whatever spices are in the coating they're fried in.

Funny that fish can smell like vegetables, eh? Seems some folks can find schools of sunfish by finding the cucumber smell. Or maybe it's watermelon?

Thanks for the info re: flour, just like trout up in the Sierras when I was a young man.

Eating bait? Well, I'd hate to count the number of sardines I've eaten over the year, along with a few mackerel, and the best bait in the world for largemouth and inland striped bass................planted rainbow trout!



Yep, to be sure, some folks have some interesting ideas about how certain things should taste. And for lots of inlanders/landlockeders, it often seems that things like farmed tilapia are at the pinnacle of the delish-fish spectrum. King of the cardboard in both taste and texture, that one. smile Ate a couple bites once. Never again. Give me a simple piece of broiled or smoked mackerel, bluefish, herring or any oily fish any day. You know, the kind that actually tastes like, well, fish...

Absolutely on using smells to locate fish. You can sometimes get into water when searching for stripers on the coast, and you can 100% smell when fish are there below. Cucumber and watermelon are the two most common smells associated with fish around here. I read somewhere that certain molecules from the fish--either the fish we target themselves or that which they are pursuing and eating--are released and rise in the water column to the surface where the smell can be picked up by we two leggers.

the smell comes from when they regurgitate the bait fish the are feeding on, which also creates a slick on the water.

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