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9,3x62 Mauser... not so much eh?

Does anybody know what the parent cartridge of .270 is?

What about the parent cartridge of 30-06?

Otto Bock... anybody ever heard of him?

Just checking.

BTW... holding into the wind is like holding hands with a guy... kinda gay.

Just joking VG... you are highly respected in my book.

The parent cartridge of the 270 Winchester and the 30-06 Springfield is the 30-03. The case length for the 270 and the 30-03 is 2.54". The 30-06 was created by shortening the case length to 2.484 and dropping bullet weight from 220 grains down to 150 grains and raising the velocity from 2,300 fps to 2,700 fps.

Model 7 in 7-08 SS in a Bansner w/2.5-8 Leupold VX3i or Winchester 70 30-06 SS Featherweight in a Mcmillan w/Minox ZA3 3-9. If the boy is by my side its his 700 ADL .243 w/ VX-1 3-9.

30-06, 30-30 and 45-70 depending on where iam and what mood iam in

Which was stolen from the Mauser family in German. Do a little Google work on the topic please.

Mauser even won a lawsuit over it.

But no compensation... World War I covered the tracks

Cash,
Why don't you try doing a little research on the topic. The original round that all of these cartridges came from is the Patrone 88, which was designed by the German Rifle testing commision, not Mauser and first used in the German Gewher 88 service rifle, which was not a Mauser design. The original cartridge had a base diameter of 12mm, or 0.473 inches. The cartridges that followed it, 7x57 Mauser, 7.65x53 Mauser, 30-03, 30-06, 270 Win, 9-57, 7x64, 9x57, 9.3x62 etc. all share the same 12mm base diameter, the length of the cartridge case and the diameter of the bullet were changed to make different cartridges.

As to what Mauser sued for, it was copying the design of the Mauser locking system and the Mauser stripper clips. The German government also tried to sue for the copying of the pointed sptizer bullet but I believe that US Ordinance was able to prove that they were indepently working on the concept.

Excellent...

Thank you so much for doing the legwork, it's excellent to be a lazy [bleep] like myself some days... now, go fetch me another beer b****

The 9.3x62 is not part of that group. It is a separate development.

You are correct, my mistake, the base diameter is 12.1mm on the 9.3x62, versus 12mm on the 8x57.

Cash,

You're welcome, there was no leg work involved, just posting some general knowledge I had on the subject. You may be a lazy mf'er, I don't know you so I'll have to take your word for it. I consider you a stupid mf'er, you can't help that you don't know what you don't know. The internet is full of idiots, you have lots of company bitch. I didn't know you drank beer, you come across as more of a white russian or cranberry & vodka type.

Well this thread motivated me.... Just pulled one of the 9.3x62 rifles out of the safe and I will sit with that rifle this evening.

You might want to check on that little further. Start with Wikipedia and maybe end up with Saami?

Now go fetch me another beer b****

BTW... what is the parent case to .30-03?

6.5-08, Now it's exotic enough. ;-{>8

What a question. I'm not about to read all these answers. I'll bet every caliber and variation is covered an sworn by.

Cash,
You must have a problem with reading comprehension, I already stated that the parent case for that family of cartridges was the Patrone 88, or Model 88 also known as the 7.9x57I (or J depending on translation). It was not designed by Paul Mauser but by the German Rifle commission.

Now, now, kids.... try to get along...

Lot'sa choices in my house. From .224 - .358.
But, if it's early or late, raining or sunny out, close range or long, I'm probably going to be packing the same rifle.
It'll be a stainless synthetic bolt action. Be wearing a solid scope in MQ that I can dial, and be light in the hand.
Cartridge will either be the 6.5CM or 7mm-08....I'm betting the rifle will be a Kimber Hunter, too.
Doesn't matter if it's a deer, elk or pronghorn.

If I'm feeling old school, I'll grab my classically stocked, wood & blue Rem 700 with Leupold 2.5x8 on deck.
It weighs a little more than the Kimber's but is just as accurate.
Oh, and it'll be chambered for the justifiably revered .270Win and running a 130gr Hornady spire point.

Actually. 30-03 was based on .30-01 which was based on P88...

But all of that is nuanced minutiae.

What I'd like to learn more about is why you think 9,3 Mauser was not born from 7 and 8 Mauser.

I never said that the 9.3 Mauser was not born from the 7 and 8 Mauser, what i said was that I agreed JoeBob in that it was a separate development. What I meant by that is Otto Bock's 9.3x62 case isn't a exactly a lengthened 8x57 case with a larger bore. The 8x57 has a base diameter of .470" and the 9.3x62 has a base diameter of .476". This is similar to William Brennke's 7x64, technically it's not a 7mm longer 7x57 because the base diameter is .467 vs the .470 for the 7x57. In the same vein, the 6.5x55 is a separate development because of it's 0.480 base diameter. I will agree that this is also nuanced minutiae.

What I know of the 30-01 is that it was an experimental cartridge with a case length of 2.554"~2.564" developed for testing but not actually adopted. Frankfort Arsenal loaded up 10,000 rounds for development and in 1903 it was shortened to 2.54" and adopted as the 30-03. As you said "nuanced minutiae".