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Well, it looks like you don’t have to worry about Trump taking your guns anymore. I’m sure sure Joe Buden will treat your better. Enjoy, amigo!
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Well, it looks like you don’t have to worry about Trump taking your guns anymore. I’m sure sure Joe Buden will treat your better. Are you saying trump wanted due process? No wonder your crying.
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Adding semi auto firearms to "the list":
I don't think that can happen, if you are talking about the tax on full autos. Semi auto are protected by 2A, while full autos are not.
All handguns, including semi autos, are protected under Heller, and semi auto rifles are probably legally indistinguishable from semi auto handguns.
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If SCOTUS were completely happy with the 1st Circuit ruling, they probably would not have accepted the case. We may be fortunate enough to get some strengthened 4th Amendment protections out of this. That in itself would strike down all red flag laws. Not necessarily. Could be a narrow ruling, or could be more broad. We will have to wait and see.
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Red flag laws completely circumvent any due process. Justification for seizure because of an impure thought, surely can't set any type of sound precedent.
Illegal search and seizure hands down.
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Well they are a terrorist organization don't ya know Why do you avoid the truth? An intelligent person - not you - would be embarrassed.
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After WW II Didn’t Europe require gun manufacturers to limit magazine size to 2 or 3 bullets? My Merkel Semi held and one in the chamber I think.
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Red flag laws completely circumvent any due process. Justification for seizure because of an impure thought, surely can't set any type of sound precedent.
Illegal search and seizure hands down. FWIW, I'm rooting for your position, but I'm not giving easy odds that it will happen that way.
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Red flag laws completely circumvent any due process. Justification for seizure because of an impure thought, surely can't set any type of sound precedent.
Illegal search and seizure hands down. FWIW, I'm rooting for your position, but I'm not giving easy odds that it will happen that way. Too bad the NRA doesn't root for that position too.....
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FWIW, I'm rooting for your position, but I'm not giving easy odds that it will happen that way. This is the first biggy heard in long while. With the addition of Amy darlin, i suspect the supreme's are going to shove right in the gun grabbers butts, with any luck and the river don't rise
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Adding semi auto firearms to "the list":
I don't think that can happen, if you are talking about the tax on full autos. Semi auto are protected by 2A, while full autos are not.
All handguns, including semi autos, are protected under Heller, and semi auto rifles are probably legally indistinguishable from semi auto handguns.
I hope you are correct but I think you are not. The Second Ammendment protects ownership of all firearms which in my opinion includes full auto firearms. Full auto firearms are taxed and require special permission from the government. They will simply include semi-auto firearms under the same law and the same requirements will apply to handguns as well as long guns, including shotguns. Never under estimate the tenacity of the left.
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45 100 has it about right. You peons don’t realize how much libs hate us. And Bear you have about worn out the Trump hatred. Can you state a case where he actually did what you piss and moan all the time about. How about a law he passed to that effect. Holding my breath waiting. Please hurry! Edk
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Trump doesn’t write laws silly rabbit. Here’s some light reading to further your edumacation https://susanwbrooks.house.gov/medi...-flag-law-is-and-how-it-works-in-indiana
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A $200 tax is not going to fly. There is presently a small tax on guns and ammo, and it is permitted because it is not a major burden on ownership. $200 is clearly intended to prohibit ownership, and is no more permissible than a poll tax. Pure political theater, signifying nothing. There is already a tax on certain firearms. Assault weapons will be added to the list. Really pretty simple. Hasbeen Keep calling them assault weapons. You'll get everybody else trying to do that, too.
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Per Heller, full auto firearms have not yet received 2A protection. I agree that they should, but SCOTUS so seldom calls me for guidance.
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