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If you go lurk on some of the social media platforms that cater to younger shooters, you see a whole lot of talk about ar platform cartridges and a few other darlings like Creedmoor, 6.5 PRC, 308, a very few others. What you don't see is much talk about anything else, and there's a pretty strong undercurrent of derision towards "fudd guns" and "boomer lore" and the like.

Unless the consumer patterns of the younger shooters change as they age, there will be a bunch of chamberings that are going to dwindle into obscurity.

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May the OLD 7X57 NEVER die!!!

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Does anyone here have a 30 TC?


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Originally Posted by auk1124
If you go lurk on some of the social media platforms that cater to younger shooters, you see a whole lot of talk about ar platform cartridges and a few other darlings like Creedmoor, 6.5 PRC, 308, a very few others. What you don't see is much talk about anything else, and there's a pretty strong undercurrent of derision towards "fudd guns" and "boomer lore" and the like.

Unless the consumer patterns of the younger shooters change as they age, there will be a bunch of chamberings that are going to dwindle into obscurity.



This is 100% accurate. The only cartridges the younger generation (my generation honestly) has any interest in are the .308, 6.5cm, .223, 7.62x39 and 300blk. A couple fringe cartridges are popular as well...think 6.5 Grendle and 450 bushmaster.

Im into these...but also love my classic guns. I can't tell you the last time i saw someone under 30 shooting a 270 or 30-06 at the range. I have some friends who shoot the more classic chamberings but its because they were guns passed down them. They aren't the shooters at the range pumping ammo downrange...just hunters who fire maybe 5 rounds a year.
Seems like if anyone in the Gen X, Y, or millennial category buys a gun...its an AR or Ak.


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I'm a classic age wise LOL and I prefer the classic cartridges to the new and alleged super duper calibers coming out. To me it's marketing something new that is a revision of something thats been around a while. The 300 H&H is a classic and it's basically the same ballistics as a 300 WSM. I prefer the H&H chambering. I'm in the process of having a custom single shot built and it's going to be in a classic deer cartridge the 300 Savage which IMHO is the original short mag.

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Former173rd if you meant 250/3000 Savage cases and ammo I'd be interested. I have two rifles in this classic chambering and both are delightful to shoot and the deer and antelope expire quickly.

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All of them, looked at the shelves of your local sporting goods store lately?


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Originally Posted by Switch
Why did the 284 Winchester and WSSMs not become a commercial success? I have no experience with the 25 WSSM but looks promising as a light deer and antelope round. I have a chance to by one, but wonder why it is not more popular? I had, until recently, a NULA 284 Win and thought it was a great combo, IMHO better than the 7 08, but brass became almost impossible to find! I had the same thoughts on the 7 MM WSM, thought it and the 7 mm SUAM where the bst of the bunch, but I must have been wrong, and yet the 280 AI is a home run!



.284 may be easier to find soon since Lapua is advertising brass for it now. There are 5 other brands listed on Grafs and Sons. 2 of those are in stock

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Originally Posted by Utahunter
May the OLD 7X57 NEVER die!!!


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Nor its little brother 257 Roberts!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Jim in Idaho
The .260 Remington is having a hard time getting life insurance these days, at least going by ammo availability vs. the 6.5 Creedmoor and even the 6.5x55 which is still hanging on.

Pre-shortage availability, of course. All loaded ammo is in short supply right now.


Yep. Took this pic at Scheel’s in The Colony, TX a few weeks ago. No 6.5 Creedmoor or much of anything else to be found. I was surprised they also had some 7 Rem Mag on the shelf too, but that was about it.

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remington 722 in 300 savage is the bomb i should never traded it off. why do you miss them when there gone

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The unhip cartridges need an image makeover, to appeal to the younger crowd.

257 Roberts = 257 Bernie
270 Winchester = 270 BLM
7x57 Mauser = 7mm Safe Space

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Originally Posted by auk1124
The unhip cartridges need an image makeover, to appeal to the younger crowd.

257 Roberts = 257 Bernie
270 Winchester = 270 BLM
7x57 Mauser = 7mm Safe Space


I think I just vomited a little in my mouth


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Just dropped off my 700 at the gunsmith yesterday for a new Bart barrel and a McMillan.
He had to order the reamer - guess 300 H&H isn’t a normal chambering these days lol.

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I just had a #1 custom built in 300 H&H and love it. It's a sweet caliber and in a classic single shot it exudes panache LOL. You should have seen the look on my smiths face when I dropped off another #1 action for a build in 300 Savage. He says "you know if you want to resell this it's going to be hard to do". I replied the estate will have to worry about that i'm not going to.

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Given the current fuzziness involving these newly "invented" cartridges appearing on the market, it is not easy to see the future or guess what will vanish over time. It is certain that the good older ones have not vanished, as seen in this thread. I will be long gone when the dust settles on this issue, and probably so will quite a few of you - but can offer an opinion based on experience. If we are still shooting/hunting and competing 25 years from now, some of our stuff invented in the late 19th and early 20th centuries will still be in heavy use and quite effective in comparison with these newcomers. Like - 30:06, 7X57 Mauser, 6.5X55 Mauser, and the older take-offs in different calibers as based on those cases. And a few more - like the 22/250, .223W, .22 Hornet, etc., etc. And, a few of the old Magnums too. Just an educated guess.


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Waiting for the resurgence of .256 win.........

Might be a while LOL

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Originally Posted by auk1124
The unhip cartridges need an image makeover, to appeal to the younger crowd.

257 Roberts = 257 Bernie
270 Winchester = 270 BLM
7x57 Mauser = 7mm Safe Space


And rename the TC encore to " tranny"

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