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McCain was the principal catalyst on the Republican side, to fuel the "Russiagate" collusion hoax against President Trump and his supports (80 million strong) . . . McCain brought the Steele dossier to congress and gave it credence. He fully sided with the Democrats, fake media and globalists. He was an enemy of the Constitution, among other serious personal flaws. Trump did the right thing by slam dunking him, and calling out his hypocrisy. One need look no further than McCain's grand funeral plans, which far exceed those of any previous U.S. Senator and most Presidents. His three day funeral remonds of the Negro culture of week long funerals.

Judicial Watch: FBI Knew McCain Leaked Steele Dossier

On Tuesday of this week, Judicial Watch announced its receipt of “138 pages of emails between former FBI official Peter Strzok and former FBI attorney Lisa Page.” In the records, it is revealed that the FBI, under the Obama administration, was aware that Senator John McCain (R-AZ) had leaked the Steele dossier. One email from January 10 of 2017, Strzok said the Steele dossier version published by BuzzFeed was “identical’ to the version given to the FBI by McCain and had ‘differences’ from the dossier provided to the FBI by Fusion GPS co-founder Glenn Simpson and Mother Jones reporter David Corn.”

'I would do it again,' McCain writes about release of Steele dossier to FBI

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Obviously his constituents did and that’s what mattered.

You don’t bang on a dead man and get positive results.
Jus sayin.

Would you like to offer a substantive refutation of any point that I made.

Fauci is a worthless, unaccomplished, DC insider. He's an academic who couldn't possibly hold down a real job. I detest the piece of schidt. But as I observed America's response to him, those on the left, many swing voters and many moderate conservatives revered Fauci. Trump stood NOTHING to gain from his high profile feud with Fauci. It can be argued that he didn't lose anything in his squabble, but it'd be difficult to substantiate that. If you think Trump gained political capital from his spat with Fauci, help me understand that.

He needed to focus on the substance of his disagreement with McCain. He stood to lose, and I believe did lose voters, by attacking McCain's military record and pissing on his grave. We all loved Trump because he was a fighter who broke the mold of the typical politician. But on some occasions you must consider employing a more diplomatic approach. More tact in his disagreement with McCain could have kept AZ red. I doubt you can find a single soul who would say that Trump's attacks on McCain won them over, or that if Trump hadn't attacked McCain's military record, they would have shunned Trump.

Let me make sure I understand you correctly. Had Trump not attacked McCain personally you would not have voted for him?

Nor do you duck out of military service and attack a man on his military record. Even that one was offputting to me.

I suddenly have a bit of a suspicion towards Arizona folks.

They loved McCain?

Rose Colored glasses with some of these McLame comments. He was a disgrace as a Senator and yes I voted for him in 2008. The biggest that I've been fooled by was Ryan/Romney. I knew Romney was a swamp creature. Ryan was the future hope for a Republican candidate we could get behind (I thought). Trashy super swamper who did a lot of damage 2016/2-17 and the wave of never Trumpers who just quit after stabbing the Americans in the back and front.

Swing voters did. They matter more to a politician than the politician's base.

Wrong, again.

The result of not overturning Obamacare, is squarely on Johnny’s shoulders.

Like the democrats, and McCain being one, his vote was purely personal vindictiveness. He betrayed his oath(s), his constituency, and the American people.

GFY, McCain.

I've realized that the side I am on, one of principles above all, and Constitutional law, and manifest reality, and an intelligent approach to problems, again with a directive to focus on evidence and reality, is inhabited by so few as to make it statistically non-existent.

Certainly, reading this thread, THAT has become all the more obvious. And reading a bunch of dunderheads spouting about political scheming is farcical in the extreme. I'm glad you all stuck with your day jobs, far away from me.

McCain was a weasel, but a popular weasel with many people. Remember he was elected and re-elected.

Nothing was gained by attacking him. It was a mistake.

I think swing voters are a myth. Or at any rate there aren't enough of them to matter.

For example....Democrats never vote republican....very rare.

75 some odd million people voted for Trump.

So,,,,what we’re really arguing about here appears to be recent past history of which is pretty much undeniable.

You're a fooking dumbass.

Yep.

It’s fair to say that the swing has done swung and we’re down to us vs them.

You reap what you sow. Donald Trump sowed discord and reaped the results. Because his devout followers, his reality TV fans, his cultists, were solidly behind him, praised his name regardless and closed their eyes and ears to any negative news about him, he overestimated the breadth of his support. His followers loved him unconditionally but he didn't realize that those outside the cult would put conditions on their support. His ego wouldn't let him admit that he didn't have the breadth of support he imagined. He lost the election. He lost the election because, rather than fight an election, he chose to make excuses before the election even took place. Rather than say, "I need your support", he said, "They're going to cheat us. Don't bother mailing in your votes because they're going to cheat". After the fact, he said," join me in complaining and accusing the process. Join me in denying the results". Then he said, "We'll march on the capitol and, yes, I'll be with you". I don't feel sorry for Donald Trump. He threw this election. He gave us Biden/Harris. He put self-interest before national interest. I don't feel sorry for Donald Trump; I feel sorry for the country and, ultimately, for the western world. GD

Hard to throw it all away with 75 million votes.

Jus sayin.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/did-biden-win-little-or-lot-answer-yes-n1251845

"But the margins this year were even tighter in the three states that put Biden over the top in the Electoral College. He won Arizona, Georgia and Wisconsin by a total of less than 45,000 votes."

We can't know the degree to which any fraud may have affected these numbers. 11.8 million people voted in those 3 states. It 23,000 had voted for Trump rather than Biden, Trump would be president today.

That's less than one quarter of one percent of the voters in those states. I have a hunch there are at least that many swing voters.

75 million wasn't enough. If the election were held today how many would he get? After his behavior since the election I would not vote for him again.