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Originally Posted by HoosierHawk
Has society fallen so far that people have no concept of how to plan ahead?


In many cases (specifically urban areas), yes.


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I feel sorry for those that were not prepared for this shortage. Hopefully this will pass. Hard to believe not to long ago I was receiving emails selling CCI std. velocity ammo for 25.00 a brick. Wish I would have bought more.
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Originally Posted by HoosierHawk
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And just what are you going to do with all that stuff you hoard? Inquiring minds want to know.....


First, its none of your business, all my stuff was legally purchased through retail channels.

But, since you claim to have an inquiring (I think you actually meant enquiring, but whatever) mind, I'll tell you.

I'll keep shooting like I always do and not worry and whine about not having any components readily available. If I'm a bit low on a specific component, I won't use it up. It's called conserving one's resources.

Is it "hoarding" if I have a freezer full of meat and stored canned goods to last my family a month? Or is it being prepared for any unforeseen disruption in the food supply chain, such as what happened last spring?

Has society fallen so far that people have no concept of how to plan ahead?



Yes, yes society has. In my household and my upbringing we had large pantries, canners, gardens, freezers, ect... I don't believe we had a name for putting up food stores. Its just what folks do. Now days the people that go to the grocery store and starbucks every day or two call us "Preppers" or "Hoarders".

Always makes mw think of that song, "I was county before country was cool". LOL


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It's refreshing reading this thread to actually see how many people truly "get it". It's always enlightening to see people pontificating about how a retailer is "screwing me". Really? They have product "x" and tell you what their price is. You can pay it or you can pass. How's that screwing you? That's about as honest as they can be with you.

With the subject matter of this thread, we all need to keep in mind we are talking about a hobby. I'm sure there are a couple here whose food subsistence requirements include taking game regularly. Fortunately, you are the exception rather than the rule. I'm also sure there are a few who are concerned about their stockpile for TEOTWAWKI (the end of the world as we know it); but, that's a different discussion.

First world problems are nice to have. Don't get me wrong, I would rather pay less than I do for almost anything; but, I'm glad I am worried about whether or not I will be able to buy large rifle primers next year than whether or not I'll be able to find food or water.


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
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People are azzholes for hoarding.


People are also azzholes for not hoarding.



That about sums it up.


Executive summary: People are assholes.

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Anybody without a bulk tank in their yard full of stabilized gas they rotate through is a short-sighted moron. Anybody that’s not retarded would do that and buy when the cost of gas is low, so they can weather the high gas price years. No sympathy. Fugking idiots get what they deserve.

Should also have at least one 2,000 gallon propane tank if you have anything that runs off it.


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Oh and tires. They keep going up too, tied to the price of oil right?

If you don’t have 10 years worth of new tires stored in a cool dry location out of the sun you’re an idiot


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Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Anybody without a bulk tank in their yard full of stabilized gas they rotate through is a short-sighted moron. Anybody that’s not retarded would do that and buy when the cost of gas is low, so they can weather the high gas price years. No sympathy. Fugking idiots get what they deserve.

Should also have at least one 2,000 gallon propane tank if you have anything that runs off it.



Yes, that is exactly the same thing. Carry on.

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Fugkin a right it is. It’s a consumable you have the ability to stockpile with forethought.


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Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Anybody without a bulk tank in their yard full of stabilized gas they rotate through is a short-sighted moron. Anybody that’s not retarded would do that and buy when the cost of gas is low, so they can weather the high gas price years. No sympathy. Fugking idiots get what they deserve.

Should also have at least one 2,000 gallon propane tank if you have anything that runs off it.


Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Oh and tires. They keep going up too, tied to the price of oil right?

If you don’t have 10 years worth of new tires stored in a cool dry location out of the sun you’re an idiot


I don't recall any major disruptions in fossil fuel supply over the past 25-30 years.

I recall several disruptions in the guns/ammo/components supply during that time.

Learn from the past, and prepare accordingly.

Or don't learn anything, don't prepare, and whine about it.

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Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Oh and tires. They keep going up too, tied to the price of oil right?

If you don’t have 10 years worth of new tires stored in a cool dry location out of the sun you’re an idiot


BayouBoy will be along shortly to ask (for a friend of course) if KY Jelly is petroleum based.

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The arrogant [bleep] that come on every thread crowing about what they’ve stockpiled for ammo and components mocking and denigrating guys looking for said items can eat a dick.

The things I listed that ought to be stockpiled as well was not hyperbole. It’s just easier to sit back in the saddle of self-righteousness on a horse named Hubris and count your ammo.


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Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Oh and tires. They keep going up too, tied to the price of oil right?

If you don’t have 10 years worth of new tires stored in a cool dry location out of the sun you’re an idiot


BayouBoy will be along shortly to ask (for a friend of course) if KY Jelly is petroleum based.


Isn't it mined in Kentucky?

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Originally Posted by HoosierHawk
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Anybody without a bulk tank in their yard full of stabilized gas they rotate through is a short-sighted moron. Anybody that’s not retarded would do that and buy when the cost of gas is low, so they can weather the high gas price years. No sympathy. Fugking idiots get what they deserve.

Should also have at least one 2,000 gallon propane tank if you have anything that runs off it.


Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Oh and tires. They keep going up too, tied to the price of oil right?

If you don’t have 10 years worth of new tires stored in a cool dry location out of the sun you’re an idiot


I don't recall any major disruptions in fossil fuel supply over the past 25-30 years.

I recall several disruptions in the guns/ammo/components supply during that time.

Learn from the past, and prepare accordingly.

Or don't learn anything, don't prepare, and whine about it.



Same as petroleum based products, ammo and components can be had, you just have to pony up the dough for the going rate.


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Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
The arrogant [bleep] that come on every thread crowing about what they’ve stockpiled for ammo and components mocking and denigrating guys looking for said items can eat a dick.

The things I listed that ought to be stockpiled as well was not hyperbole. It’s just easier to sit back in the saddle of self-righteousness on a horse named Hubris and count your ammo.


No self-righteousness or hubris here. Just pointing out how all this was completely predictable, and easily prepared for. Is it really so hard to pick up a brick of primers once every couple months when you're in a sporting goods store, even if you have no immediate use for them? How about bullets? You need one box, pick up an extra one once every third time you purchase them.

You're angry, I'm not. I'm fine on components, you're apparently not.

It's somewhat amusing, but has become more annoying than anything else.

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Just checked my cart from yesterday. 6.5 nosler bt went from 19.79 to 24.99. 6.5 127 gr barnes was 37.00 now 44. 243 eldx was 41 now 48. I expected better from midway


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The best, or worst, part is when someone finds out you have excess, or something to sell, they expect you to sell it to them at pre-panic prices. They seem to think their knowledge of what stuff used to cost has some bearing on current value.

I posted a couple of 8lb cans of powder on a local buy-sell-trade group right around Christmas....and yes the price was quite high. You would be amazed at the number of folks who got immeasurably angry because I wouldn't sell it to them at the price Midway or Powder Valley has listed, even though they were out of stock. It was quite entertaining.

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I’m sitting fine myself as well. Matter of fact I’m inventorying what I’ve got this morning.

Don’t jump to conclusions, you look more foolish than when you started.

I can afford to wait it out and hope things come down before I “need” to buy anything. It’s the gloating and condescension that trips my trigger.

Not everyone is set up to reload, or in a position to store massive amounts of components if they do.


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Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
I’m sitting fine myself as well. I can afford to wait it out and hope things come down before I “need” to buy anything. It’s the gloating and condescension that trips my trigger.

Not everyone is set up to reload, or in a position to store massive amounts of components if they do.


Very valid post.


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Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Oh and tires. They keep going up too, tied to the price of oil right?

If you don’t have 10 years worth of new tires stored in a cool dry location out of the sun you’re an idiot


BayouBoy will be along shortly to ask (for a friend of course) if KY Jelly is petroleum based.


You go girl.... laugh Rock that spandex while you can.

Wanna' but some cheap ammo or components? laugh If I run across a seller, I'll let you know.


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