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![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/ydJd0W1g/C5-C20-DEF-3390-463-E-98-CA-BF39-EB58-C5-B0.jpg) [/quote] A guy could do an awful lot of hunting with that right there!
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You hardly see any 35 Winchester AI on the shelf anymore.  But Iām still setting pretty on a pile of .35 WCF Brass. š
Founder
Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison?
And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools,
Being native burghers of this desert city,
Should in their own confines with forked heads
Have their round haunches gored."
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To me the dog turd of the bunch is the 223WSSM, was a bad design from the get-go do or did you own one.. or are you just following the uninformed crowd..? I bought one when they first came out , and it has been one of the best cartridges I ever owned..in a winchester Mdl 70.. it shoots the fastest bullet of any commercial gun ever made, and is extremely accurate.. don't knock it until you tried it..
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What about that new cartridge from Weatherby based on a lengthened .284 Winchester case? The 6.5 RPM (Rebated Precision Magnum). I'm guessing that cartridge will have a hard time gaining any steam if Weatherby is the only one offering rifles in this chambering..
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My newest incarnation of modern caliber is in the neighborhood of 20 years old. I bought a Cooper Varmint Extreme in 25 WSSM. It was the French walnut and case colored action that drew me into the light like a moth. I bought the dies and about 800 pieces of brass and am glad I did. It's a nice prairie dog gun for the longer shots. I've thought of taking it to the deer blind but never have.
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To me the dog turd of the bunch is the 223WSSM, was a bad design from the get-go do or did you own one.. or are you just following the uninformed crowd..? I bought one when they first came out , and it has been one of the best cartridges I ever owned..in a winchester Mdl 70.. it shoots the fastest bullet of any commercial gun ever made, and is extremely accurate.. don't knock it until you tried it.. At what bullet weight and rifling twist would that be?
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and yet the 280 AI is a home run!
It is in a very small market. In that market a 270 is a no go, does not exist. However, in another market, the real market out there, the 280 AI does not exist but the 270 is everywhere.
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Cartridges that are Vanishing? Pretty much anything that used to be on a stores shelves..
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What if Remington had left off the belt and introduced the 6.5 Remington Magnum in a more suitable rifle ? Remington made some 673s and 700s in 6.5 RM, as did Ruger in the 77 and Mossberg in the 800, none of them lasted very long. I've always wondered why the 350 RM didn't sell like hotcakes in the 600. A small package chambered for a powerful cartridge seems like it would have been a big seller in AK and in Canada where there are dangerous bears. The two or three 600s in 350 RM that have passed through my hands all went to buyers in AK.
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6x45 is all but gone. Reloaders can make it without much issue but I donāt think anyone is making factory ammo for it anymore. Always wanted to try one for WA and VA deer season as they are both .23+ caliber states. Just havenāt got around to it yet...
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An old shop that's been gone a while out here had a Model 1895 in .38-72 on display. I'd say that's about as vanished as you can get.
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7 BR - Remington loaded it commercially for a few years then like they often do gave it no factory support and it died. It is strictly a handloading proposition now.
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223 Rem, my favorite cartridge - you can't argue with truckloads of dead PD's and gophers.
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Wssm cartridges have feeding issues. The original wsm owes its demise to the original creator Rick Jamison and his settlement with Olin over copyright infringement Horse apples. The problem was the Winchester rifles. Browning rifles and AR-15s feed WSSMs perfectly.
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I've got a few in the stable that are on life support. I have an old Model 8 in .25 Remington that I shoot once in a while. Also have its brother, a .30 Rem. Then I have a 21" Contender barrel in 7-30 Waters that I might hunt with some next year.
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in silvam ne ligna feras
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The unhip cartridges need an image makeover, to appeal to the younger crowd.
257 Roberts = 257 Bernie
270 Winchester = 270 BLM
7x57 Mauser = 7mm Safe Space .270 Biden Loves Minors? I'll take all you've got in stock.
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Iām trying to get my hands on a Weatherby varmintmaster in .224 weatherby. Itās pretty well gone already. Surprisingly they go for big bucks on gunbroker. Want a .222 rem as well, .17 Remington was the only ammo on the shelf at my local big box, which is kind of an indication. These cartridges have been superseded by others but I still want a rifle in each one.
The .220 Swift has been mentioned but I think itās here to stay. It has a cult following(I might be the leader for it) and seems to be growing. I have enough brass for the remainder of my life but looked online out of curiosity for ammo and brass, none to be found. Itāll never be huge but I think itāll stick around.
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Wssm cartridges have feeding issues. The original wsm owes its demise to the original creator Rick Jamison and his settlement with Olin over copyright infringement Horse apples. The problem was the Winchester rifles. Browning rifles and AR-15s feed WSSMs perfectly. I have 2 Model 70s in 25WSSM. One is a CRF, and one is a CRPF. No feeding issues at all...
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To me the dog turd of the bunch is the 223WSSM, was a bad design from the get-go do or did you own one.. or are you just following the uninformed crowd..? I bought one when they first came out , and it has been one of the best cartridges I ever owned..in a winchester Mdl 70.. it shoots the fastest bullet of any commercial gun ever made, and is extremely accurate.. don't knock it until you tried it.. At what bullet weight and rifling twist would that be? what makes you think I am going to waste my time Educating you.. If you want to learn something google it..
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I haven't seen mention of the 35 Rem in this thread - it's still relatively popular in some areas over there isn't it? Marlin still make the 336 in 35 Rem.
Whatever you said...everyone knows you are a lying jerk. That's a bold assertion. Point out where you think I lied. Well?
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Nor its little brother 257 Roberts!!!!! Nor it's overseas cousin the 6.5x57.
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