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Operation Cornet and Olympic had the allies landing with 800K to 900K troops and equipment against over 700,000 Japanese who were dug in and had 7 months to get ready. Amphibious assault against well defended position it would have favored the defenders. IN 1945 American citizens were relieved that the war was over in Germany and the challenge was getting everyone to ramp for a war that would take 4 more years (remember we weren’t in the thick of the Europe theater for much more than two years.

Interview with Japanese officers had them saying that they had figured out the strategy and had time to get ready. The knew MacArthur would go island by island like an imperialist. They were afraid of a main island invasion of Tokyo but had figured out our plan.

The bombs worked and still work to this day as a deterrent unless some radical knotheads get ahold of one.

Ok, I wasn't aware that they had 'modern' weapons at that time. Even at that, it took guts to stand there are reload with a forest of spears coming at you.

Ok, I'll go.

When I was a little kid my Grandpa who was on the Sea Fox submarine in the Pacific told me that Macarthur asked to borrow his pen to sign the treaty!

I have a friend whose father was a marine in Pacific during WWll. Few years ago he went with his dad to reunion and tour battles he’d fought in. His dad finally broke down viewing Pelieu. He was devastated and heartbroken. He said “we fought and died to take it back only to have Japs return and buy it back with our money”. Not only true in Pacific but our entire west coast. Chinese are buying up or taking the whole damn country. Will we ever wake up?

Thanks for recommending the book. It is a great read and really puts the kabosh on the revisionism.

I binge watched 'Pacific' this weekend, damn is about all I can say about any being there.
Can never thank ANY who served enough!

My father was one of those troops waiting to invade. After the battle of manila he said he wished they dropped 100's of the a bombs on Japan on the first day

Anything 6.5 is unbelievably deadly and awesome at the same time.

You jackwagon!


Hahahahaha!

I see what you did there!

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Family friend was on Wake Island when it was captured. He was a civilian working for Morrison and Knutson.

Spent 4 years in a prison camp.

My dad was wounded on Okinawa. He was I believe in an army hospital when the bombs were dropped. Not sure if he would have eventually been part of an invasion, or not. He sure never had a good thing to say about Japs.

In the summer of '19, Union Parish honored it's WWII vets with a ceremony. Of the 19 living vets in the parish, 11 of them were able to attend. Each veteran was recognized, a short speech about where they served, and a short quote they said about their service was told at the ceremony. Dad's quote was, "If they hadn't dropped the bombs, I probably wouldn't be here today".

I've heard Dad say that deciding to drop the bombs was the only good decision Truman ever made.

Nope, me either. My Great Uncle, Howard (Red) Roeder, and two of his team mates were KIA/MIA after their reconnaissance of Yap from the USS Burrfish!

My Dad was a Tech Sergeant stationed at Los Alamos, he was in charge of a group of G.I.'s who drove tanker trucks hauling water to the base. At the end of his service he managed one of the base's assembly halls and movie theater.

What's crazy is your idea that innocents were killed in either attack. Every person in Japan was, by then, contributing to the failing war effort, and was prepared to die, fighting hand to hand to the last one. Innocent? You're a fool...

Gonna change the subject just a little......

I knew several of the men in our community had served in WWII, but you never heard any of them talk about it. Not too long ago, I was talking to the widow of one of the men and found out the her husband and another man I knew, who lived in the community, had served together in the Pacific island hopping battles. This lady told me that her husband had said he wouldn't have been alive if it hadn't been for the other fellow. As they were fighting their way across these islands, the Japanese would have snipers in the trees. The lady told me that this other fellow killed quite of few of them, that her husband said the other fellow hunted them like squirrels.

My next door neighbor to the west was in Europe and he never mentioned the war, but one day an older friend said this neighbor was in some of the worse of the European campaigns. A few months ago, his nephew, now my neighbor, showed me a journal that his uncle had left. In it, was his thoughts about D-day and I suppose the rest of the war. It turns out my neighbor was in one of the first 2 or 3 boats that landed on the beach at Omaha. Everyone of his unit, except for himself, was killed on the beach. He listed some names, remarked that they were all gone, and wrote how scared and lonely he felt. At that point, I quit reading. I felt like I was prying into someone's private affairs, and I had no business doing it.

Didnt kill enough of em.
Wasnt the Nagasaki bomb off target somewhat and some of the effect was asorbed and deflected by surrounding terrian?

IIRC, Nagasaki set in a bowl type terrain, thus a lot of the blast was directed upward. Everything in the bowl was gone, but outside the bowl there wasn't as much damage.