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Starvation. Your children dying of it even after you have eaten your dogs.


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I could be wrong....To me Civil war seems like it needs to be between the People and a Governing body, I don't see that happening, however I could see an invading force bringing war to this Continent.
I think its more likely a war between People ...People vrs People, and I dont think that fits the definition of Civil war.

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Originally Posted by hillestadj
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Originally Posted by Stophel

"We" are no longer even a people.


I told my kids 15 years ago that they needed to start considering leaving this country. They looked at me like I was crazy. I'm not sure what they think about it today.

It could be that they're more acclimated to an America that is as it is today.

I'm not. I knew it when it was still much closer to its original intent than it is today,..and I've got enough years and perspective to realize how fast its declining.



America is certainly not what it was or should be and getting worse - whats the alternative?

Former Combloc Eastern European country? I'll grant you Caucasian populous, but what else am I getting to warrant the move?

...Honest question


I would like a honest answer to that......bob

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Originally Posted by JSTUART
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In your opinion, is there a final straw that pushes us to a hot civil war?



You do know that healthy political discourse require adversarial content...that strident vigour is what makes for strong result and national backbone.


Pander and placate gets you Chamberlain and Co.

If the English had listened to Chamberlin they might still be an empire,...instead of a refugee camp for wogs.




England's time was done as it had already stagnated, being a wog refuge is just a symptom of their degradation.


Also pretty sure the Nazi jackboot would has have made for a lousy overlord.


The English people didn't choose to be a wog refugee camp any more than Americans chose to absorb the lower caste of Mexico.

It was decided for them.

Germany was targeted also,...many years ago. They bucked the decision. The British stepped in and the end result was a Soviet empire and an England that had to go to war to hold the Falkland Islands.

A herd of sheep on the Falkland Islands is what's left of an empire that the sun never set on.

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Originally Posted by 673
I could be wrong....To me Civil war seems like it needs to be between the People and a Governing body, I don't see that happening, however I could see an invading force bringing war to this Continent.
I think its more likely a war between People ...People vrs People, and I dont think that fits the definition of Civil war.



Actually, people vs people is the very definition of a civil war. Two or more factions fighting for control of the region/government.

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I could be wrong....To me Civil war seems like it needs to be between the People and a Governing body, I don't see that happening, however I could see an invading force bringing war to this Continent.
I think its more likely a war between People ...People vrs People, and I dont think that fits the definition of Civil war.



Actually, people vs people is the very definition of a civil war. Two or more factions fighting for control of the region/government.

I didn't know that, thanks.

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Starvation. Your children dying of it even after you have eaten your dogs.



Tracy, thats the problem. No one can wrap their brain around that in America because NONE of us has ever been without.

Our "poor" are fat and carrying $800 phones.

If you've ever traveled abroad and seen real poverty it leaves an impression...but you won't find it in America. We have a loooong way to go down to the drain, but it has started.


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IMHO, if it happens at all, it will be started by the other side. Likely due to the government not moving fast enough towards Communism. It appears that they want to take our freedom more than we want to keep it.

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Ignorant and gullible people.

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Dont shoot at the plate whatever the distance or wpn you are using.
As much as it is ingrained to shoot center mass.
Aim at the belly and pelvic girdle...
1/3rd bottom center mass...

One down hit miserably will sucker the would be rescuers in soonervor later.


Just let em scream till they come to rescue who the fugg ever.
Then shoot those fugga,s too.

They need some horror and fear in their minds to set in.


Take as many as you can with ya if ya know you aint gonna make another sunset or sunrise.


Always have a retrograde plan to GTFO and see another day.


Fine line of timing and situations on both above.
Mostly on what is on the side to be gained by you or for others.

Fugg it...
If your 70 75 80 yrs old when schit hits the fan in the future.

You have probably already had a pretty good run at life.
Go out with greatness in some peoples minds if ya can....

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Originally Posted by ingwe
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Starvation. Your children dying of it even after you have eaten your dogs.



Tracy, thats the problem. No one can wrap their brain around that in America because NONE of us has ever been without.

Our "poor" are fat and carrying $800 phones.

If you've ever traveled abroad and seen real poverty it leaves an impression...but you won't find it in America. We have a loooong way to go down to the drain, but it has started.


A buddy of mine is high up in a major corporation. He has a co-worker who was born in India.

This man tells of how in the very early 70s, his father ran into their modest home in Lahore screaming to his wife, "Sell Everything! Sell Everything! We are moving to America!"

"But why dear?", replied his mother.

"I just saw a Soviet propaganda film showing how Americans are racist and mistreat black people!" shouted the father.

"And so?", asked the mother.

"Woman!", yelled the father, "In America, even the poor people are fat!"


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Originally Posted by renegade50


One down hit miserably will sucker the would be rescuers in soonervor later.


Just let em scream till they come to rescue who the fugg ever.
Then shoot those fugga,s too.

They need some horror and fear in their minds to set in.


Take as many as you can with ya if ya know you aint gonna make another sunset or sunrise.


Always have a retrograde plan to GTFO and see another day.


Fine line of timing and situations on both above.
Mostly on what is on the side to be gained by you or for others.

Fugg it...
If your 70 75 80 yrs old when schit hits the fan in the future.

You have probably already had a pretty good run at life.
Go out with greatness in some peoples minds if ya can....



Reegade, your training and experience shows. You are telling part Fabius, the Roman Consul General who delayed Hannibal, Sun Tzu, and FM 7-8.

Your last statement was echoed by Socrates.


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Nope. Too many people are too fat and happy. And when they started offering rewards for turning people in, it would be over.

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I wonder if I could go to Alaska and sneak across into Siberia.... I just want to live quietly in the woods, not surrounded by savages from all over the world. Hey, it's been done before!

https://www.abroadintheyard.com/rus...ontact-for-42-years-siberian-wilderness/

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Originally Posted by BlueDuck
When your door is breached at 2:am, you will get the chance to decide. What will you do?

If your door gets kicked in at 2:am you will be so massively outnumbered by well trained men in full body armor with automatic weapons and snipers and armored vehicles outside your door that it will be game over you lost.

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Originally Posted by Stophel
I wonder if I could go to Alaska and sneak across into Siberia.... I just want to live quietly in the woods, not surrounded by savages from all over the world. Hey, it's been done before!

https://www.abroadintheyard.com/rus...ontact-for-42-years-siberian-wilderness/

It’s crazy how fast the world can change. Who would have thought in the 80’s that by 2020 it would be the conservatives talking about moving to Russia to get away from globalist in the USA

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Originally Posted by Stophel
I wonder if I could go to Alaska and sneak across into Siberia.... I just want to live quietly in the woods, not surrounded by savages from all over the world. Hey, it's been done before!

https://www.abroadintheyard.com/rus...ontact-for-42-years-siberian-wilderness/
Iceland seems nice.

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Originally Posted by 673
Originally Posted by Stophel
I wonder if I could go to Alaska and sneak across into Siberia.... I just want to live quietly in the woods, not surrounded by savages from all over the world. Hey, it's been done before!

https://www.abroadintheyard.com/rus...ontact-for-42-years-siberian-wilderness/
Iceland seems nice.



Not enough trees there for me.

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Walmart Already America’s Largest COVID Vaccine Provider Joins End Times Push For Digital Vaccination Credentials In Unified Global System


https://www.nowtheendbegins.com/wal...ommon-pass-biometric-identification-666/

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Maybe economics. When the last few taxpayers get fed up with paying for all the free loaders.


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