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Where is Barnes Ammo produced #16006257 04/18/21
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Anybody know? The last two boxes I just bought from Grafs&Sons in 260 Rem had small gold stickers on the end flaps. When I removed the sticker, there's a printed circle with text that reads,"Made In USA". Apparently, that's no longer the case. I did a search and can't find country of origin. Anybody know?


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My guess would be


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It's made in China!

OK guys, come on. I was just josh'n. God forbid that our ammo production goes over there. RJ

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I have no idea where Barnes VOR-TX ammo is produced. I do have a couple of boxes of VOR-TX 6.5 Creedmoor ammunition--which does not say where it was made. The only info on the box says it's copyrighted in 2017 by "Barnes Bullets, LLC. P.O.B. 620, Mona Utah." However, copyright had nothing to do with where it's made. (Interestingly, the small print on the box is both in English and French, perhaps to make it easier to sell in Canada--or at least Quebec. As far as I can ascertain, lead-free bullets are not required there--or in France itself--except perhaps in certain areas.)

Barnes was acquired by Remington in 2009, so we might suspect my ammo was made by Remington--or at the least, Remington supplied the Barnes headstamped brass to be loaded in Utah. But Remington's ammo plant in Lonoke, Arkansas was sold to Vista Outdoors last year--a conglomerate that owns many shooting-product companies, including Alliant Powder, CCI, Speer, Butler Creek, Weaver, etc. The Arkansas ammo plant is now back up and running again, but Barnes Bullets was sold to Sierra Bullets, so is no longer part of Remington.


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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
I have no idea where Barnes VOR-TX ammo is produced. I do have a couple of boxes of VOR-TX 6.5 Creedmoor ammunition--which does not say where it was made. The only info on the box says it's copyrighted in 2017 by "Barnes Bullets, LLC. P.O.B. 620, Mona Utah." However, copyright had nothing to do with where it's made. (Interestingly, the small print on the box is both in English and French, perhaps to make it easier to sell in Canada--or at least Quebec. As far as I can ascertain, lead-free bullets are not required there--or in France itself--except perhaps in certain areas.)

Barnes was acquired by Remington in 2009, so we might suspect my ammo was made by Remington--or at the least, Remington supplied the Barnes headstamped brass to be loaded in Utah. But Remington's ammo plant in Lonoke, Arkansas was sold to Vista Outdoors last year--a conglomerate that owns many shooting-product companies, including Alliant Powder, CCI, Speer, Butler Creek, Weaver, etc. The Arkansas ammo plant is now back up and running again, but Barnes Bullets was sold to Sierra Bullets, so is no longer part of Remington.

Kinda reminds me of a shell game, trying to remember what shell the pea is under....

I don't guess it matters as long as it's made somewhere and it's good stuff.

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So is Barnes ammo still in production?

Is it going to be made by Remington or Sierra in the future?

Perhaps Mule Deer can find out for us.

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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by Mule Deer
I have no idea where Barnes VOR-TX ammo is produced. I do have a couple of boxes of VOR-TX 6.5 Creedmoor ammunition--which does not say where it was made. The only info on the box says it's copyrighted in 2017 by "Barnes Bullets, LLC. P.O.B. 620, Mona Utah." However, copyright had nothing to do with where it's made. (Interestingly, the small print on the box is both in English and French, perhaps to make it easier to sell in Canada--or at least Quebec. As far as I can ascertain, lead-free bullets are not required there--or in France itself--except perhaps in certain areas.)

Barnes was acquired by Remington in 2009, so we might suspect my ammo was made by Remington--or at the least, Remington supplied the Barnes headstamped brass to be loaded in Utah. But Remington's ammo plant in Lonoke, Arkansas was sold to Vista Outdoors last year--a conglomerate that owns many shooting-product companies, including Alliant Powder, CCI, Speer, Butler Creek, Weaver, etc. The Arkansas ammo plant is now back up and running again, but Barnes Bullets was sold to Sierra Bullets, so is no longer part of Remington.

Kinda reminds me of a shell game, trying to remember what shell the pea is under....

I don't guess it matters as long as it's made somewhere and it's good stuff.

DF




It matters to me.

1) It used to be made in America, by Americans. Are these people now out of a job?

2) Apparently, now it's imported from somewhere. Hence, the covering of the Made In America printing on the end flap. But where? I like to know what country is receiving the money I spend, and whether or not I want to continue purchasing that product, no matter how well it performs or how well I like it.

3) There's a good possibility, and I'm not saying it is, that it may be made in China. If that was the case and other ammo manufacturers decided to follow suit, ponder that for just a moment. How would you like those Cokksukkers controlling the faucet?

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Let's hope not Chicom. And, I would doubt it's made there.

Probably Europe if not USA.

Or South Korea, or Mexico, or......

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I sent a request via E-mail to their customer service department asking them where.


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Originally Posted by Bugger
I sent a request via E-mail to their customer service department asking them where.


Amazing how easy that was instead of instantly making a tin-foil hat because some stickers covered up the country of manufacture.


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Or maybe too many of the components are sourced outside of USA to legally be termed Made in USA. That's why Leupolds are no longer Made in America.

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Originally Posted by Whttail_in_MT
Or maybe too many of the components are sourced outside of USA to legally be termed Made in USA. That's why Leupolds are no longer Made in America.


Which Leupold is no longer made in USA? Or, more accurately, designed, machined, and assembled in the USA?

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Originally Posted by Heeler
Originally Posted by Bugger
I sent a request via E-mail to their customer service department asking them where.


Amazing how easy that was instead of instantly making a tin-foil hat because some stickers covered up the country of manufacture.

What fun is that? Some people here can't live without their daily conspiracy theory.

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Get a hold of yourself. No conspiracy theory implied. I merely asked if anyone knew where they are manufactured. If you don't have the answer or if the question triggered you in some way, I can't help that. Just scroll on by if the post displeases you.


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I know the bullets are made in Mona, Utah but not sure about the loaded ammo,
A member of this forum GSSP works there mabey he will chime in

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Originally Posted by eaglemountainman

Anybody know? The last two boxes I just bought from Grafs&Sons in 260 Rem had small gold stickers on the end flaps. When I removed the sticker, there's a printed circle with text that reads,"Made In USA". Apparently, that's no longer the case. I did a search and can't find country of origin. Anybody know?


Reach out to user GSSP. He's employed by Barnes in Utah.

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Originally Posted by eaglemountainman
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by Mule Deer
I have no idea where Barnes VOR-TX ammo is produced. I do have a couple of boxes of VOR-TX 6.5 Creedmoor ammunition--which does not say where it was made. The only info on the box says it's copyrighted in 2017 by "Barnes Bullets, LLC. P.O.B. 620, Mona Utah." However, copyright had nothing to do with where it's made. (Interestingly, the small print on the box is both in English and French, perhaps to make it easier to sell in Canada--or at least Quebec. As far as I can ascertain, lead-free bullets are not required there--or in France itself--except perhaps in certain areas.)

Barnes was acquired by Remington in 2009, so we might suspect my ammo was made by Remington--or at the least, Remington supplied the Barnes headstamped brass to be loaded in Utah. But Remington's ammo plant in Lonoke, Arkansas was sold to Vista Outdoors last year--a conglomerate that owns many shooting-product companies, including Alliant Powder, CCI, Speer, Butler Creek, Weaver, etc. The Arkansas ammo plant is now back up and running again, but Barnes Bullets was sold to Sierra Bullets, so is no longer part of Remington.

Kinda reminds me of a shell game, trying to remember what shell the pea is under....

I don't guess it matters as long as it's made somewhere and it's good stuff.

DF




It matters to me.

1) It used to be made in America, by Americans. Are these people now out of a job?

2) Apparently, now it's imported from somewhere. Hence, the covering of the Made In America printing on the end flap. But where? I like to know what country is receiving the money I spend, and whether or not I want to continue purchasing that product, no matter how well it performs or how well I like it.

3) There's a good possibility, and I'm not saying it is, that it may be made in China. If that was the case and other ammo manufacturers decided to follow suit, ponder that for just a moment. How would you like those Cokksukkers controlling the faucet?


You're really jumping to conclusions based on a sticker on a box.

Contact Barnes or Remington.

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Originally Posted by prm
Originally Posted by Whttail_in_MT
Or maybe too many of the components are sourced outside of USA to legally be termed Made in USA. That's why Leupolds are no longer Made in America.


Which Leupold is no longer made in USA? Or, more accurately, designed, machined, and assembled in the USA?


Leupold scopes are made in America. There was a Redfield model of scope that was not made in America.

Binoculars, rangefinders and spotting scopes are not made in America, except maybe the Gold Ring spotting scope.

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Originally Posted by AB2506
Contact Barnes or Remington.


Why would he contact Remington? I plainly stated in my earlier post on this thread that Remington has nothing to do with Barnes--because Remington, as an entire entity, declared bankruptcy in 2019, and the various parts of what used to be Remington were sold at auction in 2020.


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Anything sold in Canada anywhere need bilingual labeling.

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