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You conservatives can't have it both ways.
Big corporate profits and growth growth growth? Yes please!
Good wages for the workers? No thanks!
I am MAGA.
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And don’t forget about the stock holders
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GM is gonna spend a BILLION DOLLARS in mexico for electric cars and the UAW is mad.
Wonder if the UAW still endorses Biden they will never learn supporting the commie democrats i guess they get what they supported They will ALWAYS support democrats as long as the DNC pumps back side money into the UAW. Any complaints are purely grandstand for the membership. I’m not sure who taught who this way of doing business, politicians or the unions. Osky
A woman's heart is the hardest rock the Almighty has put on this earth and I can find no sign on it.
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You conservatives can't have it both ways.
Big corporate profits and growth growth growth? Yes please!
Good wages for the workers? No thanks!
Not that at all , if you have a cull sheep you cut it out of the herd. GM is cull... fact.
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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As far as I'm concerned the whole automotive industry sucks. Needing SAE and metric tools to work on an American made vehicle really pisses me off.
Life is good live it while you can.
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I wouldn’t build tonka toys in Detroit or most any northern city. I bet there is no lack of workers in Mexico. Edk
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Campfire Kahuna
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You conservatives can't have it both ways.
Big corporate profits and growth growth growth? Yes please!
Good wages for the workers? No thanks!
Not that at all , if you have a cull sheep you cut it out of the herd. GM is cull... fact. Too big to fail. Like the central banks, Walmart, Amazon etc etc. We keep calling it Capitalism.....but I don't think it means what we think it means....
I am MAGA.
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Seemed like every speech from Lesco was “good paying union jobs.” Code speak.
America, Our Country and we’re taking it back.
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Another reason the UAW pizzes me off. I was once a UAW member in the late sixties through the early 70's before & after my military service. Even back around 1972 some of the old timers I worked with were making comments like "This union ain't what it used to be". I know a lot of their own members don't approve of the way it's run and I can't understand some of the stuff they do and some of the people they endorse. It's not just the UAW either; a lot of our unions seem to be run by commie socialists. WTF? Labor unions are the basis of the Marxist System. The former USSR was the United Socialist Soviet Republic. A Soviet is a Labor Union, which is the most basic political subdivision in the "Soviet" system, and hence why it's in the name.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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The government imposes regulations and taxes that make it more costly or prohibitive to manufacture, produce or create things in this country. The unions protect non-productive workers and make it even more cost prohibitive to do business in this country. Then they both blame industry for moving out of the country while the consumers want inexpensive stuff. Cant have it both ways. Though that has been the case very often I know of a business that took a big chunk of their manufacturing south of the border and it was when Trump was in office. He made it far easier to stay here than any president in my lifetime. They left over stockholder greed.
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Another reason the UAW pizzes me off. I was once a UAW member in the late sixties through the early 70's before & after my military service. Even back around 1972 some of the old timers I worked with were making comments like "This union ain't what it used to be". I know a lot of their own members don't approve of the way it's run and I can't understand some of the stuff they do and some of the people they endorse. It's not just the UAW either; a lot of our unions seem to be run by commie socialists. WTF? Labor unions are the basis of the Marxist System. The former USSR was the United Socialist Soviet Republic. A Soviet is a Labor Union, which is the most basic political subdivision in the "Soviet" system, and hence why it's in the name. Exactly
MAGA
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You conservatives can't have it both ways.
Big corporate profits and growth growth growth? Yes please!
Good wages for the workers? No thanks!
Not that at all , if you have a cull sheep you cut it out of the herd. GM is cull... fact. If Ford is your prize bull you're fugking the American consumer with, you're going to have a lot of retarded 3-legged calves. Unless you like sending profits to Japan? Wagyu is some awesome shidt, but I can be very happy with an American steak.
MAGA
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Back around 2010 had a GMC Sierra I was going to trade on a new one. Every Sierra on the lot was made in Mexico. Bought a Silverado, instead. Most of my Chevy trucks have been made in Indiana. One back in the late 60s, was made in Canada. None from Mexico, so far? Ain't much made here that doesn't have lots of foreign parts these days.
Once saw a small Pontiac SUV on the lot (2007?). Window sticker said engine/transmission made in USA, car assembled in China.
Had two Dodge trucks, don't want another one. Although I know a few guys that loved Tundras for awhile, but now drive RAMs, since they get much better fuel mileage than their Tundras did. Several of those new RAMs were hecho en Mexico.
Fords? Most of my farmer kin have been driving Ford trucks since the 60s. They kept on buying them, despite the rust and other issues thru the 70s and 80s. They all live in the northern parts of PA, where road salt is tough on steel. Doubt aluminum will be much better, as it corrodes.
Buy whatcha wanta buy. Doesn't bother me. Ram makes the engines in Mexico, the truck itself is made in Michigan.
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The very first newer club cab Dodges were built in Mexico for years. Might still be. Guess what. They were no cheaper than the Chevy or Ford that were built in the USA at the time. Edk
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I read these threads for amusement.
There might be something worthwhile come out of them,
maybe,
except, guys can't have a factual conversation about.
stuff like this.
Their self worth is so tied to a stupid ass pickup, that to
be honest about their brand, would be like cutting off their balls.
Ford was building stuff in Mexico when I worked at the local dealer.
1987! Oh, they also benefited from bailouts!
ChuckKy mentions Toyota charging the same as GM.
Yet we hear of unions and legacy costs adding around $3k to a GM.
What gives there?
Gotta love the Toyota American Plant arguments.
Chrysler/Benz/Fiat? Are they American?
GM getting a pass, since this thread is their Ox Goring.
Right now there is Chevy, Dodge and Ford in our driveway.
Used to be a Subaru. Only POS I've ever owned was a T-bird.
By a 100k i had the heads done and a tranny in it.
A Hyundai was close but it left quick.
Ain't nobody building something like a car in the US. Period.
Hell, not even all parts of chainsaws!
That's a huge issue and a dam shame.
Something that needs fixed.
But not by a bunch of dimwits, busy beating up on some brand.
Just to feel better about the pile of imported parts in their drivway.
Parents who say they have good kids..Usually don't!
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Another reason the UAW pizzes me off. I was once a UAW member in the late sixties through the early 70's before & after my military service. Even back around 1972 some of the old timers I worked with were making comments like "This union ain't what it used to be". I know a lot of their own members don't approve of the way it's run and I can't understand some of the stuff they do and some of the people they endorse. It's not just the UAW either; a lot of our unions seem to be run by commie socialists. WTF? Labor unions are the basis of the Marxist System. The former USSR was the United Socialist Soviet Republic. A Soviet is a Labor Union, which is the most basic political subdivision in the "Soviet" system, and hence why it's in the name. AS, you might want to double check what USSR actually denotes. Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, and a soviet has different meanings in Russian history. mike r
Don't wish it were easier
Wish you were better
Stab them in the taint, you can't put a tourniquet on that.
Craig Douglas ECQC
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BThey all live in the northern parts of PA, where road salt is tough on steel. Doubt aluminum will be much better, as it corrodes.
. Are you aware that there aluminum are boats that are run in SALTwater? They fare quite well 
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Good
Meskin
Car.
Chevy is now pronounced Chebby. LOL. Every Wetback I see is always driving a Chevy. Fuqk Chevy And Obama Motor Company. And Mexico too !!!
"Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston
Texans, "We say Grace, We Say Mam, If You Don't Like it, We Don't Give a Damn!"
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You conservatives can't have it both ways.
Big corporate profits and growth growth growth? Yes please!
Good wages for the workers? No thanks!
Not that at all , if you have a cull sheep you cut it out of the herd. GM is cull... fact. Too big to fail. Like the central banks, Walmart, Amazon etc etc. We keep calling it Capitalism.....but I don't think it means what we think it means.... Walmart and Amazon are Capitalism Monsters... but they are self made and self sufficient. GM lives on the .GOV titt 24/7/365. GM is a failing disaster and must be allowed to die.
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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You conservatives can't have it both ways.
Big corporate profits and growth growth growth? Yes please!
Good wages for the workers? No thanks!
Not that at all , if you have a cull sheep you cut it out of the herd. GM is cull... fact. Too big to fail. Like the central banks, Walmart, Amazon etc etc. We keep calling it Capitalism.....but I don't think it means what we think it means.... Walmart and Amazon are Capitalism Monsters... but they are self made and self sufficient. GM lives on the .GOV titt 24/7/365. GM is a failing disaster and must be allowed to die. Lol...ain't no way Democrats will let that happen. Auto and steel workers are their huckleberry.
The only thing worse than a liberal is a liberal that thinks they're a conservative.
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