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Not a chance. I've had my run with it and wasn't impressed.
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Yup.
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As I have posted previously I have had the two shots fully expecting them required to enter Canada for a fall BC hunt. Booked in 2018 for 2020, deferred to 2021 and, I suspect, deferred to 2022. A $10k deposit on a 16 day goat, moose and elk hunt with folks I have hunted before. I truly hope they survive.
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If, by FDA approved you mean that traditional trials, with a traditional timeline, demonstrate that it is safe and effective?
That isn't going go happen, so I'm not going to take it.
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I just got one, the J&J. My doctor and my wife’s doctor recommended that we do get the shot. I’m guessing they know more about the issue than me, but that’s just a guess. I could be wrong.
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Earlier this afternoon my wife said she heard 2 local ambulance calls on her scanner for individuals who had just got their covid-19 shots. One was in their 60s and the other was a teenager.
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Not happening. [bleep] that shot.
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I just got one, the J&J. My doctor and my wife’s doctor recommended that we do get the shot. I’m guessing they know more about the issue than me, but that’s just a guess. I could be wrong. I got the J&J two days ago and feel fine. Buddy of mine and I went fishing for a couple of hours this morning and had a great time. I caught a couple of nice hard, red inside rainbow. We stopped at the cleaning station at the top of the boat ramp. I gutted the two gorgeous fish, put the guts and heads on ice, tossed the fish into the dumpster and just got home. It was a great day, and the jab doesn't affect me at all.
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Well if this was the Chi Com, China 1 party rule virus vaccination, approved by Colonel Chung dung whooo from the Wuhan department of Virology and weapons resource center --- that may make us more likely to buy in to volunteering for that shot in the arm.
Seriously: I do look forward to seeing Vaccines being fully approved, though not anytime soon. Though if this is done right that would be over 4 years out, 6year may be more like it.
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I travel extensively. My doctor and his family has had the shot and recommended we do too. My wife, myself, parents and in-laws have all had the Pfizer shots and no ill effects. I've known one person that was otherwise healthy die from Covid and another in his 50's that is still having respiratory issues after almost a year.
I'm not naïve and I also don't wear a tin foil hat. Do your own research and make your own decision. That's what we did. While it's true the current vaccines haven't gone through the lengthy clinical trials that are normally required, they have gone through an approval process for safety and efficacy.
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Why in F*** would I believe anything the FDA says? They have no more credibility than FBI, CIA, or any number of federal agencies.
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I travel extensively. My doctor and his family has had the shot and recommended we do too. My wife, myself, parents and in-laws have all had the Pfizer shots and no ill effects. I've known one person that was otherwise healthy die from Covid and another in his 50's that is still having respiratory issues after almost a year.
I'm not naïve and I also don't wear a tin foil hat. Do your own research and make your own decision. That's what we did. While it's true the current vaccines haven't gone through the lengthy clinical trials that are normally required, they have gone through an approval process for safety and efficacy. There's a reason the ads on the radio say it's effective, NOT safe and effective. The tech isn't new. Moderna has tried numerous times to get mRNA tech through trials without success. Phizer's been fined billions (yes, with a B) for lying about and suppressing trial data that was negative. While these vaccines may end up being relatively safe, the issues with the tech involved haven't historically manifested in animal trials until much later. Time will tell. I'll stay in the control group and watch it play out.
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I will not get it,approved or not. So far as I understand it a vaccine introduces a specific trace organism for the body to develop anti-bodies to and recognise thus combating specific pathogens, the current covid shot introduces a non specific organism to create a cascade of the immune system so as to heighten the systems readiness to outside attack...with the issue being that the body has to be regularly re-heightened/triggered to keep it at peek readiness to combat nonspecific attack. Thus those taking the covid injections are not "immunised" against the specific pathogen, rather they are pre-prepared for a broad non specific immunological attack including (hopefully) covid 19. I am somewhat leery as to the wisdom of keeping the mammalian immune system at constant heightened readiness for a protracted period of time. But that is a different issue than the one that really grates my teeth, which is the constant insistence that I "have to" be injected regardless of the risks or my wants.
These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
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Why in F*** would I believe anything the FDA says? They have no more credibility than FBI, CIA, or any number of federal agencies. Ding ding we have a winner..... since the government took over the healthcare industry via Obama care they are not to be trusted
Originally Posted by Judman PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Basically they are throwing a handful of firecrackers into the ants nest to upset the ants so that they will chew a grasshopper to pieces.
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It would not change my mind.
I and my wife have had the plague so i see no need to get it.
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