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We have been in this location for thirty years. My feeling is that it is drier over the last ten than it was over the twenty previous. There have been some very dry years previously but usually only a single year or even a single season. Now, there are ponds which have been full for the last thirty years but are dry now. I visited a couple of back country lakes a couple weeks ago and they are fifteen to twenty feet below previous levels. My daughter sent pictures of her swimming pool in Palm Bay, Florida which had gained about four inches of water in one day. Shockingly, that has had no effect on water levels here; only 3000 miles away. GD

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People living in a historically arid area bitching about a lack of rain.Go figure. shocked


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Originally Posted by Huntz
People living in a historically arid area bitching about a lack of rain.Go figure. shocked


Gotcha. Next time you guys flood out, I'm going to remind you of that statement.


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Originally Posted by Dutch
Originally Posted by Huntz
People living in a historically arid area bitching about a lack of rain.Go figure. shocked


Gotcha. Next time you guys flood out, I'm going to remind you of that statement.

Never have flooded out.Might be problems next Ice Age.


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Originally Posted by Dutch
Originally Posted by Huntz
People living in a historically arid area bitching about a lack of rain.Go figure. shocked


Gotcha. Next time you guys flood out, I'm going to remind you of that statement.

Yeah, I get tired of those folks along the Mississippi, Missouri, etc rivers complaining that this is the third time in the last 40 years their towns have flooded. And they blame the US Army Corp of Engineers...........................not the folks that originally sited a town in a friggen flood plain.

Lucky here, we had some clouds yesterday, and more today that kept the heat down some. And more importantly, no dry lightning!


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Been above average rain where I live. Rivers have been too high and muddy to bass fish all year.


Yep. We haven’t been able to fish our pond for the last 2 1/2 years, due to the water being up in the trees and brush. You simply can’t cast. Fish and other wildlife are thriving in there, big time.


Just, STOP.

We are talking about the west.

WE GET IT. Plenty of you are getting rain, where you usually get rain, in the east.

For fuggs sake.

The conversation is about the serious issues in the western states.




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Originally Posted by Huntz
People living in a historically arid area bitching about a lack of rain.Go figure. shocked


Arid is far different from devoid of moisture, Go Figure.


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Originally Posted by Valsdad

I'm even getting used to using the dishwasher to wash a full load of dishes on the short cycle to save some water.

Hang in there, man. You'll make it.

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Originally Posted by duck911
Entire civilizations have fallen in the southwest more than once in recent history due to drought.

True, but of course they did not have the wheel yet.


They even had hoop games where they rolled a hoop around, but for some reason they failed to figure out wheeled transportation.

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Originally Posted by duck911
Originally Posted by wilkeshunter
Originally Posted by Hogwild7
Been above average rain where I live. Rivers have been too high and muddy to bass fish all year.


Yep. We haven’t been able to fish our pond for the last 2 1/2 years, due to the water being up in the trees and brush. You simply can’t cast. Fish and other wildlife are thriving in there, big time.


Just, STOP.

We are talking about the west.

WE GET IT. Plenty of you are getting rain, where you usually get rain, in the east.

For fuggs sake.

The conversation is about the serious issues in the western states.



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Originally Posted by mtnsnake
China said they experimenting controlling the weather in much larger areas. But they did not say where.

China has had very serious flooding over the last two years. If they had the ability to control weather I would think they would make life better for themselves.

They are NOT causing our drought.

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Originally Posted by Bama_Rick
I didn't read the whole thread, but I suspect the title might be a bit misleading. It's been raining here since Friday.


Dude, you're giving the rest of us a bad name, you from Tuscaloosa? 🤣🤣

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Damn it. I said it was china weather control. They are getting ready to invade the west with troops.

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Originally Posted by mtnsnake
Damn it. I said it was china weather control. They are getting ready to invade the west with troops.

I guess it's a BYOW mission.

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Originally Posted by OldHat
Originally Posted by mtnsnake
China said they experimenting controlling the weather in much larger areas. But they did not say where.

China has had very serious flooding over the last two years. If they had the ability to control weather I would think they would make life better for themselves.

They are NOT causing our drought.


China has been VERY serious about fighting desertification in Inner Mongolia in attempt to stop and reverse the increase in deserts in that area. Many billions of trees planted, for nearly forty years now.

I can’t get a good read on the results / effects of the effort. According to the CCP, it is a smashing success, with reduction and even reversal of desert encroachment, reduction in sand and dust storms, etc, etc. All hail to their magnificent leaders, etc, etc, etc.

Outside reports are mixed, with establishment academe poo-pooing the effort as short sighted, damaging to the existing ecosystem, and certain to fail. Of course, it wasn’t their idea......

30 more years and we’ll probably have an idea of the real effect.


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Posted about this before, but might be worth bringing up again. The submerged forest at the bottom of Fallen Leaf Lake near Tahoe:

https://www.hcn.org/issues/44.22/underwater-forest-reveals-the-story-of-a-historic-megadrought

I'm thinking that the west has been pretty lucky the past 200 years or so.



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Originally Posted by Scott_Thornley
Posted about this before, but might be worth bringing up again. The submerged forest at the bottom of Fallen Leaf Lake near Tahoe:

https://www.hcn.org/issues/44.22/underwater-forest-reveals-the-story-of-a-historic-megadrought

I'm thinking that the west has been pretty lucky the past 200 years or so.

Very interesting.

Human civilization is a house of cards that can turn into a dystopian nightmare if mother nature hiccups.

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Originally Posted by Scott_Thornley
Posted about this before, but might be worth bringing up again. The submerged forest at the bottom of Fallen Leaf Lake near Tahoe:

https://www.hcn.org/issues/44.22/underwater-forest-reveals-the-story-of-a-historic-megadrought

I'm thinking that the west has been pretty lucky the past 200 years or so.


Thank you. That seems to conflict with the lengths of the droughts, and the timing, with the University of Columbia study. More data needed, but this is neat stuff.


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