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Re: Battle of Ia Drang Valley... [Re: Tarquin] #16202770 06/27/21
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Good movie, but as always, you need to read the book.


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Re: Battle of Ia Drang Valley... [Re: Western_Juniper] #16202772 06/27/21
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Several of us here feel honored to have helped in your family's liberty, Western Juniper. Welcome.


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Re: Battle of Ia Drang Valley... [Re: BOBBALEE] #16202860 06/27/21
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Originally Posted by BOBBALEE

Good movie, but as always, you need to read the book.


Indeed….. I read it probably 15 years ago or so. It was an excellent book with some very personal accounts of those who not only fought there but died there.

Re: Battle of Ia Drang Valley... [Re: BOBBALEE] #16202994 06/27/21
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Originally Posted by BOBBALEE

Good movie, but as always, you need to read the book.


Or actually talk to men that were there.

This is NOT a slam on Marcus (just another example) but Lone Survivor , book and movie, are more Hollywood fiction than truth.

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Originally Posted by JeffP
Originally Posted by BOBBALEE

Good movie, but as always, you need to read the book.


Or actually talk to men that were there.

This is NOT a slam on Marcus (just another example) but Lone Survivor , book and movie, are more Hollywood fiction than truth.


Are you saying that Marcus was not truthful in his book?



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Re: Battle of Ia Drang Valley... [Re: RockyRaab] #16203629 06/27/21
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Originally Posted by RockyRaab
Several of us here feel honored to have helped in your family's liberty, Western Juniper. Welcome.

friend of mine is from vietnam. had to get out as a kid, father defected from the nva to the southarm y.
friend is now among other things a arizona state representative.
his daughter just graduated from annapolis.
they are pretty special
she shoots camp perry too.
i had a client, passed a couple of years ago. he was on the ground relief column into that valley. brass balls.

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Re: Battle of Ia Drang Valley... [Re: jwp475] #16203641 06/27/21
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Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by JeffP
Originally Posted by BOBBALEE

Good movie, but as always, you need to read the book.


Or actually talk to men that were there.

This is NOT a slam on Marcus (just another example) but Lone Survivor , book and movie, are more Hollywood fiction than truth.


Are you saying that Marvus was not truthful in his book?


I wouldn’t presume to know. There are a lot of people in between Marcus’s mouth and the book or movie.

Re: Battle of Ia Drang Valley... [Re: Tarquin] #16203899 06/27/21
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Americans fought in RSVN for all the right reasons. The domino theory wasn't a theory, it's just the Communists were bad at executing their strategy. Good cause, fought for the right reasons, executed badly by LBJ's minions. Of course, the South Vietnamese kleptogarchy didn't help a fecking whit.
Everyone who fought over there should be proud, and we should all be proud of them, and - while we still can - tell them.


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Re: Battle of Ia Drang Valley... [Re: Tarquin] #16204017 06/27/21
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Originally Posted by Tarquin
Blow by blow documentary...






Probably the best depiction of decently trained and led soldiers and aircrew of the VN. war era.

It was most definitely NOT a documentary.


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Re: Battle of Ia Drang Valley... [Re: Dave_Skinner] #16204069 06/27/21
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Originally Posted by Dave_Skinner
Americans fought in RSVN for all the right reasons. The domino theory wasn't a theory, it's just the Communists were bad at executing their strategy. Good cause, fought for the right reasons, executed badly by LBJ's minions. Of course, the South Vietnamese kleptogarchy didn't help a fecking whit.
Everyone who fought over there should be proud, and we should all be proud of them, and - while we still can - tell them.

We can not all be draft dodgers like Renegade


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Re: Battle of Ia Drang Valley... [Re: BobBrown] #16204499 06/27/21
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WTF?


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Speaking of Bruce, I was reminded me today of a book in my collection for many moons, gifted by a fellow who has been a dear friend for a long time.

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The valley was not too far from my last duty station in Nam.


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That is awesome ^
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Re: Battle of Ia Drang Valley... [Re: Tarquin] #16206832 06/28/21
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Hey Juniper, I'll second Rocky - 71 &72 - hard way to grow but probably the best way for a kid like me - no regrets here


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Re: Battle of Ia Drang Valley... [Re: Western_Juniper] #16206844 06/28/21
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Originally Posted by Western_Juniper
You know, those PAVN guys were incredibly brave and tough. I'm not saying anything in favor of their communist devil leaders, but Lt. Col. Moore had nothing but praise for those grunts on the other side and I also think some of those VC and PAVN earned respect. There's nothing about that which disparages Americans or ARVN. I'm not with Fonda and Sutherland. In my way of thinking, it takes incredible courage to fight an asymmetrical war and persist with the kind of determination that a lot of those guys showed. Their cause was hijacked by evil, as also the sake of the American cause, the RVN, was corrupted by it.

I admire courage wherever it's found among the lowly and humble -- the grunts. Whether they're volunteers in the Lafayette Escadrile, or submariners in the uboats after ASDIC and everything else brought their casualty rate to 75%, or the crews of the nightfighters whose superiors may have had an evil nazi cause, but whose task was at instruments and crude little cathode ray tubes for the purpose of fending off the Lancasters of Operation Gomorrah that incinerated Hamburg in an inferno. The only thing more courageous than subjecting oneself to the cruel realities of new inventions of warfare is to fight on the receiving end of their destructive force with no practical hope of survival. Imagine what courage it took to resist the onslaught of American warfare technology.

If anyone here served to help the Vietnamese, thank you. It was my family you helped in whatever way you could. They escaped the Communist oppression in 1978. Today, from this distance, I have a love of the land of Vietnam and the people. That war was, besides a proxy war between the Soviets with the Chinese against the US, also a civil war among the Vietnamese. As in our own (US) history, there was really only one just outcome of the civil war, the freeing of the slaves. I'm not convinced any other good came of the outcome. For the Vietnamese, the sole good was the gaining of their independence from foreign control. Everything subsequent seems to have been evil. Two very simply virtuous things, so costly.


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Re: Battle of Ia Drang Valley... [Re: Dave_Skinner] #16206897 06/28/21
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Originally Posted by Dave_Skinner
Americans fought in RSVN for all the right reasons. The domino theory wasn't a theory, it's just the Communists were bad at executing their strategy. Good cause, fought for the right reasons, executed badly by LBJ's minions. Of course, the South Vietnamese kleptogarchy didn't help a fecking whit.
Everyone who fought over there should be proud, and we should all be proud of them, and - while we still can - tell them.


Roger that.


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