Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Ask The Gunwriters Are.30-06 factory loads under loaded?

Advertised at 3060. Only off by 264 fps. with 184 fps spread. Good stuff ! LOL

Those rifles were also chambered in 270
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Makes you wonder if all Remington loads were neutered for the sake of their auto loader........

The Remington 742 semi auto was never chambered in 270 and that is the rifle the 280 was introduced in

I sure know using H 4831SC, you can dramatically exceed posted load book velocities, especially with heavier bullets...

and I am no Semi Auto type hunter....

A few years back I compared Winchester 180 gr. Powerpoint ammo in .308 Win. and 30-06. Rifles were a Winchester M70 Youth Ranger .308 I restocked to fit me and a Remington M700 in 30-06. Both rifles had 22" barrels The .308 did something like 2620 FPS IIRC and the 30-06 2610 FPS. The only time the 30-06 came even close to the 2700 FPS advertised was from the 26" barreled Ruger #1. I've Hornady 180 gr. spire points up to 2800 FPS i that Remington with no signs of pressure.
Paul B.

As my friend JWall said the 270 was never chambered in the model 740 or 742. Big Green couldn't make it work. Hence the lower pressure 280

Yes, they're loaded to 1903 safe pressures. Your handloads can be as warm as you want in any rifle you want - just depends how much excitement you want You would be hard pressed to find any rifle action made today that will hold a .30-06 that isn't also used with 65KPSI magnum type cartridges and the 65KPSI .270win. Reloading manuals will generally NOT tell you how to make such a load in .30-06, but in a modern rifle I personally would have no problem with it. QuickLoad or GRT and load-to-velocity will get you there no problem.

That may be the most recent commercial rifle too [bleep] for the .270. Other than I guess some oddball doubles.

JWP, NOT being a semi auto fan NOR user... I thot the 742 was chambered in
270 ‘since’ the 06 was, HOWEVER I ‘goggled’ Rem 742 in 270....

You are RIGHT.... for once.


Jerry

I think nearly all factory loads are under powered, with the possible exception to .40 S&W.....

I don't find that to be the case

Some of this has to do with chamber dimensions, and more to do with the fact that most factory loads a loaded with temp-sensitive powder. They've got to keep under SAAMI max pressure in the heat in the smallest possible chamber. It's unlikely your chamber is as small or as hot.

With temp insensitive powder and loading for your own rifle, you should be able to exceed any factory ammo without going over max pressue.

180 gr. Cor-lokts out of 20" - 21.5" barrels seem to do fine on the stuff I shoot



+/- 35 Paces



+/- 175 paces

ya!

GWB

IMO I think the 10 MM Factory ammo is/was loaded to its potential.

Many pistols would not stand up to the 10mm ammo.

Jerry

I chroned my 280 Rem with Vortex 140 grain factory loade TTSX at a claimed 2980 FPS and the Olher 35 recorded 3025 FPS

Some factory loads are below claimed velocity but many are right on are above. It just depends

It especially depends on the rifle....

JW

I know and accept that some have chrono'd some factory ammo at higher than adv. vel.

I never did 'back then'. I also have never clocked ammo other than Rem, Win, Fed & *PRVI* (privi) grin.

If you want to talk Walking Speed....PRVI 6,5X55, 140s = 2250 fps. I use the brass!


Jerry

By any measure you would have to say that is a crap factory load. I think the absolute worst 30-06 ammo I ever bought was some 150 gr. Remington CL bought on clearance from Walmart for $4.97 a box and I bought ten boxes of it. Your numbers for the 130 gr. 270 mirrored what I was getting with the 150 grain CL 30-06 ammo. I hunted with some of it and I just do not have the fondness for the lighter Corelokts many seem to have. So I thought Just pull the bullets and powder, replace with your preference. I had several duds from the factory primers and I found out why, in about 50% of them the primer pocket reamer didn't go 2/3rd the way to the bottom so when a primer was seated it crimped the bottom of the primer. I tossed all of those. In fact speaking of factory loads Remington Express is the bottom of the bucket. No center fire ammo has given me as many duds as Remington.

Now y'all know why I didn't buy Rem factory ammo on top of being a handloader.


Jerry

I’m betting Norma ammo will get darn close to what’s printed on the box….