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Uh, a demoncrat ?


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Horrible.

Folks are nutty. No telling but looks like murder suicide.


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Yes, horrible. If it were fictitious I would say it's an X-File, so call for Mulder and Scully.


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9 hours to make a1.5 mile search up a trail?


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The dog voted for Biden and they were so ashamed they took themselves out?

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Originally Posted by ElmerKeith
Yes, horrible. If it were fictitious I would say it's an X-File, so call for Mulder and Scully.


They were murdered and the cause is obvious though they refuse to say


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I can get heat exhaustion for the family but the dog? also, I find it odd the wife was a good distance away from the husband and child. Was she trying to get away? was she just ahead of everyone on the hike?

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Originally Posted by KFWA
I can get heat exhaustion for the family but the dog? also, I find it odd the wife was a good distance away from the husband and child. Was she trying to get away? was she just ahead of everyone on the hike?


They were murdered and the cause is obvious though they refuse to say. They probably all have Islamic symbols carved in their chests


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Succinylcholine is widely used in operating rooms. It causes paralysis of every muscle in the body, except for the heart. A tiny amount of the drug will be effective. Once the shot is administered, the person collapses. They are conscious, they can see, but they can't move a muscle. Their heart continues to beat. And they suffocate. It takes a minute or two, and they are unconscious, a few more minutes they are dead.

It is difficult to test for but supposedly traces can be found by a good lab.

The problem is, if Mom hit everybody with a shot of this stuff, fine they would all drop where there were when they got the shot. But when Mom gave herself the shot, the syringe would be right next to her on the ground she would have been unable to throw it.

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Originally Posted by simonkenton7
Succinylcholine is widely used in operating rooms. It causes paralysis of every muscle in the body, except for the heart. A tiny amount of the drug will be effective. Once the shot is administered, the person collapses. They are conscious, they can see, but they can't move a muscle. Their heart continues to beat. And they suffocate. It takes a minute or two, and they are unconscious, a few more minutes they are dead.

It is difficult to test for but supposedly traces can be found by a good lab.

The problem is, if Mom hit everybody with a shot of this stuff, fine they would all drop where there were when they got the shot. But when Mom gave herself the shot, the syringe would be right next to her on the ground she would have been unable to throw it.


Stop with the conspiracy theory nonsense. The cause of death was some form of terrorism that the government will not let be known because this proves that the terrorist are here which would cause a terror reaction in the public which is the terrorist intent


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Most likely lack of oxygen or a lethal gas that got them before anyone could escape. The wife was probably just ahead of the pack.

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From the photos I’m guessing it was Yellow Fever.

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Originally Posted by T_Inman
I know a guy who died from a freak release of H2S at a natural spring. That stuff is immediately fatal when concentrations are over 500-1000 parts per million and concentrations of less than that can make you big time disoriented. It is said at lower concentrations you feel tired so you sit down and breath even more in. Couple that with it being heavier than air, it sinks so sitting down you breath in more concentrated amounts.

Who knows if that is what happened here, but it isn't out of the realm of possibility.

Wouldn't there be dead wild animals all around that area, also?

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Where is the best place to listen to this David Paulides dude?

YouTube is chock full of his stuff.

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I’m gonna guess Murder / Suicide until I’m proven wrong.
Something smells.


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It says wife was found further up the hill. Curious if that is in the direction back to their car or further/deeper down the trail.

Seems like if she left the rest to get help she wouldn't be headed deeper in the trail. So if she was further down trail makes me think it's more accidental than intentional.....as in they all got killed where they stood and were caught unaware.

They all looked pretty fit so she may have been walking ahead of the rest when they all got it.

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If it was murder.....Qui Bono?

Look at other family members who had a beef or stands to benefit from their deaths. Could have been a poisoning from earlier in day but admittedly hard to fathom as baby and dog would have to ingest too. Drinking water would be the most logical common link. Do they have a well, or city water? Check all that out for tampering.

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Originally Posted by simonkenton7
Succinylcholine is widely used in operating rooms. It causes paralysis of every muscle in the body, except for the heart. A tiny amount of the drug will be effective. Once the shot is administered, the person collapses. They are conscious, they can see, but they can't move a muscle. Their heart continues to beat. And they suffocate. It takes a minute or two, and they are unconscious, a few more minutes they are dead.

It is difficult to test for but supposedly traces can be found by a good lab.

The problem is, if Mom hit everybody with a shot of this stuff, fine they would all drop where there were when they got the shot. But when Mom gave herself the shot, the syringe would be right next to her on the ground she would have been unable to throw it.
You know way more about that drug than I do. You don't think that whoever administers an injection would have a few seconds to toss the syringe into the bushes? As someone who has spent a good bit of time searching in grass for cartridge cases I know they can hide pretty well.


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