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And bingo was his name o.

" Maybe they killed the dog and baby because they didn't want them left without care in the cruel world they were leaving behind." Hastings I think you are right.
Grim but it happens. Twenty five years ago a woman in SC strapped her two little boys into the child seats and rolled the car into the pond.
About 8 years ago a gal in Texas took her 5 kids, age 7 to age 1 year, and drowned them one-by-one in the bathtub.

Had dirt on the Clinton's and suicided the whole family.

Grow up, there is no method of suicide that can not be detected. So this was no murder suicide

Dead families are funny in your trailer park huh kid

Its been 11 day's and they should have some clues by now. Here's a map of the trail: Link , its a single path trail alongside the hill with little room to pass without stepping off the trail, and lots of Poison Oak. Trail leads directly to previous mining activity, and the area was within an earlier fire. Trail was closed early in 2019 for a good part of the year and maintenance being done. If poisoning was a cause, I'd guess maybe some old mine tailing's were disturbed containing high amounts of Cyanide. Its a really hot trail this time a year and requires a good supply of water. Being alongside the river with access in a few places, they might have drank some contaminated water.


Phil

Can any of you sleuths find the address of this couple's home? Simonkenton ?

Your presumption and sense of entitlement apparently is boundless - kindly pardon the laughter.

Pretty sure the Talliban didn’t do it . No word of the dog being raped.

You cook any dogs alive today champ

GFY dusty.

I don't remember too much about it, but believe it was back in the 30's that a thermal layer filled an entire valley with Carbon Monoxide and killed many. This hiking trail isn't all that far from the fires currently going on up and around Lake Tahoe. This hiking trail has few visitors this time of year, maybe something similar could have happened. Not familiar with Carbon Monoxide poisoning, but looks as if that would be easily detectible right off.

Phil

CO2 is heavier than air and sinks into the low point or valley. This trail was on or near the mountaintop, furthermore CO2 poisoning shows on toxicology tests so this was no type of gassing


1986
August 21
Gas cloud kills Cameroon villagers
An eruption of lethal gas from Lake Nyos in Cameroon kills nearly 2,000 people and wipes out four villages on August 21, 1986. Carbon dioxide, though ubiquitous in Earth’s atmosphere, can be deadly in large quantities, as was evident in this disaster.

Lake Nyos and Lake Monoun are both crater lakes about a mile square located in remote mountain areas of northwest Cameroon, dominated by rock cliffs and lush vegetation. In August 1984, 37 people near Lake Monoun died suddenly, but the incident was largely covered up by the government. Since there is no electricity or telephone service in the area, it was not difficult to keep the incident secret and the 5,000 people who lived in villages near Lake Nyos were unaware of the potential danger of their own lake. At about 9:30 p.m. on August 21, a rumbling noise emanated from the lake for 15 to 20 seconds, followed by a cloud of carbon-dioxide and a blast of smelly air. The cloud quickly moved north toward the village of Lower Nyos. Some people tried to run away from the cloud; they were later found dead on the paths leading away from town. A woman and child were the only two survivors of Lower Nyos.

The deadly cloud of gas then moved on to Cha Subum and Fang, where another 500 people lost their lives. The carbon dioxide killed every type of animal—including small insects—in its path, but left buildings and plants unaffected. Reportedly, even survivors experienced coughing fits and vomited blood.

Outsiders learned of the disaster when they approached the villages and found animal and human bodies on the ground. The best estimate is that 1,700 people and thousands of cattle died. A subsequent investigation of the lake showed the water level to be four feet lower than what it had previously been. Apparently, carbon dioxide had been accumulating from underground springs and was being held down by the water in the lake. When the billion cubic yards of gas finally burst out, it traveled low to the ground—it is heavier than air—until it dispersed. Lake Nyos must now be constantly monitored for carbon-dioxide accumulation.

Carbon Monoxide is nearly the same weight as air, and easily circulates with the flow of a breeze. As to the trail being near the top of a hill, not hardly.

Phil

NO FARKING WAY !
smh.

That’s a job for Oregon’s greatest , the Fireballz

LMAO

Wrong Carbon Dioxide is heavier than air. Apparently, carbon dioxide had been accumulating from underground springs and was being held down by the water in the lake. When the billion cubic yards of gas finally burst out, it traveled low to the ground—it is heavier than air—until it dispersed. Lake Nyos must now be constantly monitored for carbon-dioxide accumulation

Wasn't talking about Carbon Dioxide, two different beast.

Phil

LOL

Why do people keep assuming they all succumbed at the same time?

I think heat is BY FAR the most likely scenario. And for context- . I consider myself pretty used to extreme temps, and could see some situations where I may end up hiking in very hot weather. I’m not just automatically scared of the temp.

That being said, there are really only two people to think about here- the adults. The baby and dog were going to stay with them no matter what. If one parent started struggling, it’s unlikely that the other would have immediately left them. They also would have probably had to been in dire conditions before they realized it was a true emergency.

So, one starts feeling ill. They slow down together. Now they’re out in the heat even longer. They take a break. They aren’t improving. Maybe by the time the other decides to go get help- they are struggling themselves. We have no clue how long they struggled- for all we know they could have been out overnight.

Alternatively- the baby fell ill first. I can’t even imagine the panic for the parents. They realize their baby is not okay, and maybe they start trying to rush back. But it’s 100+, and the route back to the car is a brutal uphill at the end of a 9 mile hike. So now one of the parents is struggling. See above situation.

A family is not going to split up at the first sign of an issue- especially when there’s a baby involved. And with heat exhaustion, they would not realize how much trouble they were in until it was maybe too late. Add in confusion from the heat, and it all makes a lot of sense.

It’s easy to become so accustomed to heat that you forget how dangerous it can be.