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JACKSON, Wyoming (AP) — An elk hunter saw his bounty turn into a “friggin’ nightmare” as four carcasses lay for hours in view of a popular trail, prompting complaints from appalled onlookers and one heated confrontation.

The killing of the elk was legal but certainly ill-considered and, many argued, unethical. It has prompted discussions in the community over whether hunting regulations need to be revised to prevent such situations.

The episode started around 9 a.m. on Sunday, Sept. 26. Three Minnesota hunters who had been in Jackson Hole for several days spied a cluster of elk on a small island in the Snake River. They squeezed off about seven shots and watched three cow elk and a calf fall.

Soon after, everything took a turn for the worse, one of the men — 79-year-old Bob Geringer — told the Jackson Hole News & Guide.

The elderly hunting party hadn’t thought out how they’d get to the elk, and once they sized up the river flow, they realized they’d risk their lives if they tried to ford it.

Meanwhile, the path along the river began to fill up with Sunday walkers and joggers in numbers that the Minnesotans had not anticipated. Passers-by, including families with children, had a close-up view of the dead elk, their carcasses beginning to bloat in the sun.

A dozen people phoned the Wyoming Game and Fish Department to report what they suspected was illegal activity.

Jackson Hole resident Brad Nielson came upon the scene six hours after the shooting, and it made him hot. Opening fire on a group of elk stranded on a barren island, he told the Minnesotans, was not fair to the animals.

“It’s an ethical question,” Nielson told the News & Guide. “That’s not fair chase, cornering them on an island and mowing them down.”

Nielson, who’s a hunter himself, told the three that they were doing other hunters no favors: “I told them they’d set back years of effort to create goodwill between the non-hunting community and hunters.”

Late in the afternoon, game warden Jon Stephens arrived as Geringer and his crew were still pondering how to reach their downed elk.

“I chewed on them a little bit for the eyesore that they created,” Stephens said. Then he helped them out.

The men obtained a canoe and a wheelbarrow. But the Snake River is running unseasonably swift, and their first attempt at a crossing resulted in a capsize, a soaked Minnesotan and an unmanned canoe being carried downstream.

Stephens could see that the makeshift meat recovery plan was futile, and he instructed the hunters to gut out the animals and then to get back across the river before nightfall.

On the following afternoon the Minnesotans returned, this time with the assistance of a local resident who had a raft. By 6 p.m. — some 33 hours after their gunfire — the Minnesotans’ meat was being rafted downstream toward the ramp.

Reached over the phone, Wyoming Game and Fish Department Director Brian Nesvik didn’t want to comment specifically on the incident because he hadn’t heard the details from his staff. But the former warden agreed on one point: When it comes to hunting, just because something is legal doesn’t mean it’s the right thing to do.

“Hunter ethics are very important,” Nesvik said. “We do have laws that are based on ethics and fair chase, but you can’t regulate all of it. You’ve got to hope that hunters will do the right thing and be respectful of both the wildlife they’re hunting as well as the rest of the public.”

Geringer said that not all of the interactions the veteran hunters had with passersby that Sunday were unpleasant.

“You can’t imagine how many people congratulated us and were happy for us,” he said. “It’s just that the timing was wrong.”


I’ve never read something more Minnesotan in my life.


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In my experience elk bloat and the meat sours very quickly if you don't get the guts out right away. I'll bet that meat is rank and they should have to eat it. At least they didn't gun down a pack of Llama's Luke some out of state hunters with cow tags did a while back.

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Originally Posted by Seafire
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Yeah, we've got our fair share, that's for sure.....


I'd bet they were out of the Twin Cities.... most hunters I met in hunting Northern MN were pretty ethical guys...

not so much with some of the one's I saw from the Twin Cities.... not all of them, but enough to notice a pattern...


I’d bet money on it every one of them was from the Iron Range. No question about it.


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Originally Posted by ERK
Need the full story. It’s not wanton waste if you do recover the animals. A boat would do that. You also cannot trap an elk on an island because believe it or not they can swim. They got out there somehow and I’m guessing they swam. A econut writing a story does not make it true. Edk


Apparently not one of the so called elk hunters said, "Hold on boys! How the hell are we gonna get them critters across the river and back here where we can eat 'em for supper?"

Nope, they just started blasting away.

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Originally Posted by RUM7
Dang River was tougher than those Minnesotan lakes to traverse.
Idiots should stick to MINNESOTA
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Originally Posted by Burleyboy
In my experience elk bloat and the meat sours very quickly if you don't get the guts out right away. I'll bet that meat is rank and they should have to eat it. At least they didn't gun down a pack of Llama's Luke some out of state hunters with cow tags did a while back.

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Surprised they werent charged with wanton waste.

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Get more people afield.

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Just flatlanders being flatlanders.
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What a bunch of idiots.


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3 men and a boy skillet shoot into a herd of elk? They're not hunters.


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Phuquing squareheads! Seriously though, in any group of hunters from all parts of the country on any given day there will be some bonehead move by one or more individuals. I'd like to think I always did the right thing in all conditions, but I have made a bonehead move or two of my own over the years!

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79 yrs old? This doesn't sound like hunting...sounds like cherry picking. At that age, and having come out for 20yrs and not understand the difficulties of hunting anything in the mountains????

I suppose...unbelievable, though. You'd be surprised how many Minn hunters ride their 4x's to their fully inclosed, heated, baited deer stands, and BELIEVE they're hunting.


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Originally Posted by org_Rogue_Hunter
79 yrs old? This doesn't sound like hunting...sounds like cherry picking. At that age, and having come out for 20yrs and not understand the difficulties of hunting anything in the mountains????

I suppose...unbelievable, though. You'd be surprised how many Minn hunters ride their 4x's to their fully inclosed, heated, baited deer stands, and BELIEVE they're hunting.


Can't bait in Mn. Legally that is. I'm sure there are plenty that do though.


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People bitch about everything!!!

Think of all the game that gets shot at over 300 yards. Those poor animals did not have a chance. Oh the travesty of it all!

Think of all the game that is wounded and never found. Oh dear those heartless careless hunters.

Get a grip people. The hunters made a mistake. So what!!

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Originally Posted by OldHat
People bitch about everything!!!

Think of all the game that gets shot at over 300 yards. Those poor animals did not have a chance. Oh the travesty of it all!

Think of all the game that is wounded and never found. Oh dear those heartless careless hunters.

Get a grip people. The hunters made a mistake. So what!!



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Originally Posted by SandBilly
Originally Posted by OldHat
People bitch about everything!!!

Think of all the game that gets shot at over 300 yards. Those poor animals did not have a chance. Oh the travesty of it all!

Think of all the game that is wounded and never found. Oh dear those heartless careless hunters.

Get a grip people. The hunters made a mistake. So what!!



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I find bitching annoying.

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Originally Posted by OldHat
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Originally Posted by OldHat
People bitch about everything!!!

Think of all the game that gets shot at over 300 yards. Those poor animals did not have a chance. Oh the travesty of it all!

Think of all the game that is wounded and never found. Oh dear those heartless careless hunters.

Get a grip people. The hunters made a mistake. So what!!



Damn, was it you? 🤣

I find bitching annoying.



You might be at the wrong place then. Lol


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One of my friends in Wyoming was originally from Minnesota. Not a super smart guy but gotta admit he is a good union carpenter and without a doubt he would have filled his tag like they did. The difference being we would have recovered those elk easily because that guy was one water handling son of a gun, probably has a boat for every occasion. He would have been flipping off the retard tourons and laughing his ass off. So would I.

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