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You guys think truck driver is a good job? Long hours, eating garbage, pissing in a milk jug, never home, chaining up in winter, hemorrhoids... F that. And dont forget the clots thrombo mambo But the glory holes tho
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Campfire Kahuna
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The piss tests only detect the residuals from smoking weed, not the intoxicating effects.The residuals may be in your system for up to 30 days after you light up. The intoxicating effects only last a few hours. I agree treat weed the same as booze. But there needs to be a test for intoxication, not residuals. Wouldn't a basic road side sobriety test do the job? I would never consent to a field sobriety test. Ever. Wanna go to a breathalyzer or a blood test, fine. but but but but but but but but but Someone might inject vaccine in to you while taking out a blood sample. And then you’d be all magnetic and stuff 😀 dammit man, stop makin' me laugh. and maybe not Hunt, but Swift or England. Maybe Cedar Rapids. ( I think that's the Christian outfit, for the Believers ya know) Covenant trucking Happy Camper be your boss jack Make you tithe and chit boy. Im tellin u what son
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Campfire Kahuna
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You guys think truck driver is a good job? Long hours, eating garbage, pissing in a milk jug, never home, chaining up in winter, hemorrhoids... F that. For some folks, when you ain't got a job............................................. any job is a good job. For others there's the Dole................................................or Mama's basement. Pineapples or the old dude with ED?
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and maybe not Hunt, but Swift or England. Maybe Cedar Rapids. ( I think that's the Christian outfit, for the Believers ya know)
Nah, all the believers are at Covenant Transport. By golly, I think I may have been mistaken. I wonder if they ever hire any Catholics or Mormons?
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men. In it is contentment In it is death and all you seek (Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
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Campfire 'Bwana
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You guys think truck driver is a good job? Long hours, eating garbage, pissing in a milk jug, never home, chaining up in winter, hemorrhoids... F that. For some folks, when you ain't got a job............................................. any job is a good job. For others there's the Dole................................................or Mama's basement. Pineapples or the old dude with ED? You need to brush up on your British slang. Watch some more of those Midsommer Murders an scheidt.
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men. In it is contentment In it is death and all you seek (Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
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and maybe not Hunt, but Swift or England. Maybe Cedar Rapids. ( I think that's the Christian outfit, for the Believers ya know)
Nah, all the believers are at Covenant Transport. By golly, I think I may have been mistaken. I wonder if they ever hire any Catholics or Mormons? Not if they are a Christian outfit.
MAGA
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I bet fatigue kills more people than a truck driver that had a joint a couple days ago. For sure. Couple years ago we a had three different trucks show up at once to haul calves home. I know all three drivers. One of them was a super stoner, thinking to myself.....fuuck this plan. But he was good to go.
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Vals..., and you hit a big problem that has been in the industry forever. When the economy is crappy, and there is no work, people are willing to drive a truck. Except, there is usually less freight.
When every one is hiring, nobody wants to drive truck.
Dogcatcher You are wrong about getting a trucking job. If you can pee clean, have a good record and pass a physical, there are companies that will either train you and pay lodging +food stipend. Or tuition reimbursements for your driving school.
Schneider hired me at 21years and a month. Contingent on getting through their school and passing CDL. I had a 6 month commitment, or had to pay them $1k. I think it's a year and $3k now.
Thing is schools charged thousand$ back then. People would go through school take the test, and hand them a check. Then go work where the want.
Much of this is payed for by job creation tax money. That's a whole other big story, but in short the driver shortages were intentional in the past.
Companies had their own schools, which got money for training drivers. The companies got subsidies for the wages, which were pretty low to begin with. Once drivers got up in the pay scale, it was financially advantageous to drive them off. To be replaced by a new driver at a low, subsidized wage.
Heck, the school I went to was at the Lancaster Vo-tech. The state provided the classroom space, parking lot, fuel, All teachers except the head teacher. Schneider provided the worn out (but safe) trucks, head teacher, and maintenance. It was only open for Pa residents. And a number of students were ex-military on the GEAR program.
There was a huge lawsuit a few years ago involving SWIFT. And their playing this game.
Parents who say they have good kids..Usually don't!
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I bet fatigue kills more people than a truck driver that had a joint a couple days ago. How about when they’re methed up and haven’t slept for 3 days?
Camp is where you make it.
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Vals..., and you hit a big problem that has been in the industry forever. When the economy is crappy, and there is no work, people are willing to drive a truck. Except, there is usually less freight.
When every one is hiring, nobody wants to drive truck.
Dogcatcher You are wrong about getting a trucking job. If you can pee clean, have a good record and pass a physical, there are companies that will either train you and pay lodging +food stipend. Or tuition reimbursements for your driving school.
Schneider hired me at 21years and a month. Contingent on getting through their school and passing CDL. I had a 6 month commitment, or had to pay them $1k. I think it's a year and $3k now.
Thing is schools charged thousand$ back then. People would go through school take the test, and hand them a check. Then go work where the want.
Much of this is payed for by job creation tax money. That's a whole other big story, but in short the driver shortages were intentional in the past.
Companies had their own schools, which got money for training drivers. The companies got subsidies for the wages, which were pretty low to begin with. Once drivers got up in the pay scale, it was financially advantageous to drive them off. To be replaced by a new driver at a low, subsidized wage.
Heck, the school I went to was at the Lancaster Vo-tech. The state provided the classroom space, parking lot, fuel, All teachers except the head teacher. Schneider provided the worn out (but safe) trucks, head teacher, and maintenance. It was only open for Pa residents. And a number of students were ex-military on the GEAR program.
There was a huge lawsuit a few years ago involving SWIFT. And their playing this game.
Maybe that's where they got the saying Sure Wish I Finished Training!
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60,000 drivers entered into the federal clearinghouse for failing a drug test in the last year or so. (IIRC)
Means that when they try to apply at a new company, new company knows of the failure. Driver has to do certain things to get cleared to drive again.
95% of those drivers are not making that effort. They're simply out of the driving pool.
There is less a shortage of drivers and more too much waste. Drivers spend too much of their allotted time on non revenue generating things.
Detention at load/unload, dead head, trying to find a load etc. 1/3 of a driver's miles are empty in this industry. Reduce that and the amount of drivers we're "short" gets considerably smaller.
Things like Baton, vHub, p44's new data work, Leaf logistics etc are all working on driving out that waste. Flock Freight just hit unicorn status with their series D.
There is a MOUNTAIN of investor dollars pouring into transportation and logistics right now.
All true. But bottom line, there is simply no driver shortage. The problem is retention. The large carriers, affectionally referred to as "megas", have a driver turn over of 100%, ore more, per year. Because they treat the drivers like seat-meat, the working conditions are abominable and pay is, for the hours worked, often sub-minimum wage. I'll tell a story about my last truck driver hire. Went through the Prime training program, drove for them for a a couple of years. Gets a phone call from home, dad is in a bad way, not expected to make it more than a day or so. Driver calls dispatch, dispatch says "tough s#it, you're ours, we'll think about it after this load. Prime had FIVE trucks sitting at the same truck stop that could have re-powered that load. Needless to say, one of them ended up re-powering that load, after all. Driver now has over 500K miles with us, and ain't going anywhere, his wife tells me.. .. When labor was abundant, the current over the road model was developed. Same as the fast food industry. Employers of last resort, and potential hires simply have much better choices for career opportunities, and the ones that do fall for a recruiter's spiel give the industry the finger as soon as the bloom is off the rose...... .
Sic Semper Tyrannis
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Why does anyone have to smoke weed?
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why does anyone "have to" drink alcohol? gamble? go plinking? drink coffee? eat cake?
substitute any non necessary activity for "smoke weed".
and some folks either smoke it or use edibles for pain management. And get better and safer relief than opioids.
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men. In it is contentment In it is death and all you seek (Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
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Campfire Kahuna
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Why does anyone have to smoke weed? How does the sun set? How is a rainbow made? How does a posi trac rear end in a Plymouth work? It just does.
I am MAGA.
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Why does anyone have to smoke weed? How does the sun set? How is a rainbow made? How does a posi trac rear end in a Plymouth work? It just does. Great movie.
Parents who say they have good kids..Usually don't!
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Anybody else think there is a strong correlation between the two?
I believe trucking companies require piss test....no?
Is that why Cali outlawed independent truckers? Because they legalized weed?
I don't know, just a thought I had and figured I'd share. With so many states legalizing weed, it has to be a factor.
"...A man's rights rest in three boxes: the ballot box, the jury box and the cartridge box..." Frederick Douglass, 1867
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No it's because the job sucks ass. That's why nothing but foreigners like eastern Europeans, sikh's, and Muslims are driving them.
It's also why they drive like dog schiett
There's a bit of truth to this. And some of those folks think highly of living in America and being able to work hard and get where they couldn't in their scheidthole countries. We have them in the transport industry here, and the majority are absolute incompetent filth. Wouldn't bother me in the least if every single one of them dropped dead tonight.
These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
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This must be the only country on earth that pushes and encourages substance abuse....then penalizes the fugg out of you for doing it. Yep, the state and lawyers making hay every day. Laws written to benefit Lawyers by politicians with Law degrees.
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The regulations and restrictions are worse for getting a CDL than a Private Pilots License.
The industry is doing what ever it can to make it harder and harder to get a CDL.
This.
I spend all my money on loose women and trapping supplies.....The rest I just waste.
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