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The oldest told me again last weekend he wasn't going to marry. He's 37, highly educated, has a nice boat, house, plenty of money and my blue eyes. I told him he might get lonley when he ages. He said, as long as you can afford it you can have whatever you want or need. Since I'm not rich I'll just make do with mom, after 35 years it's not to bad and she knows what I want. We have 3 grown kids and none have ever been married or have had any kids. I can't imagine not being married or having any kids.


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Originally Posted by Houston_2
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by ol_mike
Females are now raised to be career women - the vast majority weren't raised to be a wife .

MSM brainwashed females 24/7/365 that they were being kept down by settling for a housewife life .

Make laws that give the female the house/kids/alimoney :)/child support/dog/suv/++ and they take it more often than not .

I never bought in to it so I have no horror stories of the big D & I don't mean dallas .

Most married folks I know pretend to be happy but aren't


Finally someone who's paying attention.



Gender roles have been obliterated. Women want to play at being a man, and too many cuck men are willing to abdicate their role.


You my friend, are in the right area.

Women are hypergamous, meaning they marry up. On average, they look for a man who's income is at least 40% higher then their own.
So as women become more career oriented and make more money, there's fewer men who make 140%+ of their income. Additionally they want a man who's at least 6 feet tall (13% of U.S. men), athletic body (10% of men), College degree (25% of men) who isn't a white knighting, blue pill simp (20% of U.S. men)

Very few men meet all these criteria, and since modern women brainwashed Modern women into believing they don't need to settle, women are now sharing the few Chad's and Tyrone's out there. The latest studies indicate around 12% of single men are having 80% of the sex. There's more male virgins under 30 than ever, but no corresponding increase in female virginity.

Of course if you're one of the 12% spinning, on average, 6 plates, why would you settle down and get married to anything less than your ideal woman?

That's great for Miss 9 or 10, but for all the Miss 5 to 8 they are deluded into thinking they can marry one of they are banging on a slow Tuesday night. Unfortunately for them, they don't qualify, and every year past the age of 20 they looks deteriorate. They live the party life for too long, and their chances for marriage pass them by.

A new study shows that once a woman who's never married hits 30, he chances of ever getting married are 20%, these drop to 5% at 35 and by age 40 there's only a 2.5% chance she will ever get married.

It's so bad, women are literally dying from "Broken Heart Syndrome" and the number of these deaths is increasing each year.




Women are not men, and they shouldn't try to be men. It doesn't work, and we are seeing the results of this failed experiment.


Where are getting these numbers data from that you’re quoting?


One of the great things about the internet is there's people like me who can access and analyze all those clicks. Dataclysm

Here's two great primers for you. The first is written by the head Data Scientist for the dating site OK Cupid:
Dataclysm:


https://www.amazon.com/Dataclysm-Identity-What-Online-Offline-Selves/dp/0385347391/ref=sr_1_1?crid=NLPTDRFYW6AY&dchild=1&keywords=dataclysm&qid=1635709241&qsid=135-1799469-2656826&sprefix=dataclysm%2Caps%2C118&sr=8-1&sres=0385347391%2CB00SB1LLMG%2CB01I1UWGFW%2C1732399247%2CB01MYMOW7C%2CB00QPH5V2E%2CB01AFXZ2F4%2CB09C1JVM6Y%2C0553418831%2C076118208X%2CB007Q6XLF2%2C0578639874%2C1735431109%2C1945051752%2C0143125087%2CB08QBQK3DM&srpt=ABIS_BOOK

The second is written by a pair of PHD Data Science Consultants:
A Billion Wicked Thoughts


https://www.amazon.com/Billion-Wicked-Thoughts-Internet-Relationships/dp/0452297877/ref=sr_1_1?crid=32CNC3ER9LD2V&dchild=1&keywords=a+billion+wicked+thoughts&qid=1635709968&qsid=135-1799469-2656826&sprefix=a+billion+wicked+thoughts%2Caps%2C123&sr=8-1&sres=0452297877%2CB08SGWNLV9%2CB08TZK8VMW%2CB004ADQAPM%2CB072B5TFJY%2C1981089152%2C1108425046%2CB00LD1ORBI%2CB089CSW3Y6%2CB08RZ994T6%2CB00C74WX5M%2CB086FQYLCC%2C0802419755%2CB00J1IQUX8%2CB08VHJ9V3S%2C0465097766&srpt=ABIS_BOOK

And for a general introduction to Red Pill Philosophy, start here:


The Rational Male by Rollo Tomassi

https://www.amazon.com/Rational-Male-Rollo-Tomassi/dp/1492777862/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=the+rational+male&qid=1635710142&qsid=135-1799469-2656826&s=books&sprefix=the+ration%2Cstripbooks%2C123&sr=1-1&sres=1492777862%2CB08RZ994T6%2CB01E61AYRM%2C1548921815%2CB075XQSJPJ%2CB08TZK8VMW%2C1777473306%2CB078927ZYL%2C0140280197%2CB0797Y87JC%2CB00X0TKYKE%2C0692678670%2CB08PXK14T7%2CB07FXZBYJ9%2CB07KBFZSK1%2CB08QBB3MTG&srpt=ABIS_BOOK


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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Originally Posted by Ranger_Green
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
We married because it was expected of us by family. And it felt like the right thing to do, but ultimately it was for everyone else not us. We were in love and committed to each other already, the marriage ceremony didn’t change any of that. But then again, I didn’t want my kids to be bastards. I did my homework and fully vetted my bride. It wasn’t hard, we both came from traditional families. She had every quality I had set in my mental application. No retards or mongoloids in the family, no known history of genetic defects. Wasn’t a whore, solid work ethic, good morals, light colored eyes, wasn’t stupid, would stand up to me and anyone else, wanted a family, and she was pretty.



So, it was you that took the best one.....

How are women in my age bracket like parking spots at a mall?

The Good Ones are already taken. All that is left is either Handicapped or Way Out there.


Quit looking at women in your age bracket.


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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If you wanted a fair compromise you could go back to pre-no fault days.

But as it sits the family court system is complete overreach by government and 100% wrong.

Anybody that disputes this is a Fugking Idiot.


Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
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Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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If it's wearing a pussy, it thinks that it is special. There in lies a lot of the problem of women. Men have lots of choices.

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Originally Posted by Fubarski
.gov and its laws killed marriage.


Nope .... It is both our country's increasing godlessness that is killing marriage and society in general.



That says it all.


"Keep thy heart with all diligence; for out of it are the issues of life." (Prov 4:23)

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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by Houston_2
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by ol_mike
Females are now raised to be career women - the vast majority weren't raised to be a wife .

MSM brainwashed females 24/7/365 that they were being kept down by settling for a housewife life .

Make laws that give the female the house/kids/alimoney :)/child support/dog/suv/++ and they take it more often than not .

I never bought in to it so I have no horror stories of the big D & I don't mean dallas .

Most married folks I know pretend to be happy but aren't


Finally someone who's paying attention.



Gender roles have been obliterated. Women want to play at being a man, and too many cuck men are willing to abdicate their role.


You my friend, are in the right area.

Women are hypergamous, meaning they marry up. On average, they look for a man who's income is at least 40% higher then their own.
So as women become more career oriented and make more money, there's fewer men who make 140%+ of their income. Additionally they want a man who's at least 6 feet tall (13% of U.S. men), athletic body (10% of men), College degree (25% of men) who isn't a white knighting, blue pill simp (20% of U.S. men)

Very few men meet all these criteria, and since modern women brainwashed Modern women into believing they don't need to settle, women are now sharing the few Chad's and Tyrone's out there. The latest studies indicate around 12% of single men are having 80% of the sex. There's more male virgins under 30 than ever, but no corresponding increase in female virginity.

Of course if you're one of the 12% spinning, on average, 6 plates, why would you settle down and get married to anything less than your ideal woman?

That's great for Miss 9 or 10, but for all the Miss 5 to 8 they are deluded into thinking they can marry one of they are banging on a slow Tuesday night. Unfortunately for them, they don't qualify, and every year past the age of 20 they looks deteriorate. They live the party life for too long, and their chances for marriage pass them by.

A new study shows that once a woman who's never married hits 30, he chances of ever getting married are 20%, these drop to 5% at 35 and by age 40 there's only a 2.5% chance she will ever get married.

It's so bad, women are literally dying from "Broken Heart Syndrome" and the number of these deaths is increasing each year.




Women are not men, and they shouldn't try to be men. It doesn't work, and we are seeing the results of this failed experiment.


Where are getting these numbers data from that you’re quoting?


One of the great things about the internet is there's people like me who can access and analyze all those clicks. Dataclysm

Here's two great primers for you. The first is written by the head Data Scientist for the dating site OK Cupid:
Dataclysm:


https://www.amazon.com/Dataclysm-Identity-What-Online-Offline-Selves/dp/0385347391/ref=sr_1_1?crid=NLPTDRFYW6AY&dchild=1&keywords=dataclysm&qid=1635709241&qsid=135-1799469-2656826&sprefix=dataclysm%2Caps%2C118&sr=8-1&sres=0385347391%2CB00SB1LLMG%2CB01I1UWGFW%2C1732399247%2CB01MYMOW7C%2CB00QPH5V2E%2CB01AFXZ2F4%2CB09C1JVM6Y%2C0553418831%2C076118208X%2CB007Q6XLF2%2C0578639874%2C1735431109%2C1945051752%2C0143125087%2CB08QBQK3DM&srpt=ABIS_BOOK

The second is written by a pair of PHD Data Science Consultants:
A Billion Wicked Thoughts


https://www.amazon.com/Billion-Wicked-Thoughts-Internet-Relationships/dp/0452297877/ref=sr_1_1?crid=32CNC3ER9LD2V&dchild=1&keywords=a+billion+wicked+thoughts&qid=1635709968&qsid=135-1799469-2656826&sprefix=a+billion+wicked+thoughts%2Caps%2C123&sr=8-1&sres=0452297877%2CB08SGWNLV9%2CB08TZK8VMW%2CB004ADQAPM%2CB072B5TFJY%2C1981089152%2C1108425046%2CB00LD1ORBI%2CB089CSW3Y6%2CB08RZ994T6%2CB00C74WX5M%2CB086FQYLCC%2C0802419755%2CB00J1IQUX8%2CB08VHJ9V3S%2C0465097766&srpt=ABIS_BOOK

And for a general introduction to Red Pill Philosophy, start here:


The Rational Male by Rollo Tomassi

https://www.amazon.com/Rational-Male-Rollo-Tomassi/dp/1492777862/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=the+rational+male&qid=1635710142&qsid=135-1799469-2656826&s=books&sprefix=the+ration%2Cstripbooks%2C123&sr=1-1&sres=1492777862%2CB08RZ994T6%2CB01E61AYRM%2C1548921815%2CB075XQSJPJ%2CB08TZK8VMW%2C1777473306%2CB078927ZYL%2C0140280197%2CB0797Y87JC%2CB00X0TKYKE%2C0692678670%2CB08PXK14T7%2CB07FXZBYJ9%2CB07KBFZSK1%2CB08QBB3MTG&srpt=ABIS_BOOK








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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
You jackasses have done your part to ruin marriage as well.




Yep. A classic 'fire thread here...


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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by Ranger_Green
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
We married because it was expected of us by family. And it felt like the right thing to do, but ultimately it was for everyone else not us. We were in love and committed to each other already, the marriage ceremony didn’t change any of that. But then again, I didn’t want my kids to be bastards. I did my homework and fully vetted my bride. It wasn’t hard, we both came from traditional families. She had every quality I had set in my mental application. No retards or mongoloids in the family, no known history of genetic defects. Wasn’t a whore, solid work ethic, good morals, light colored eyes, wasn’t stupid, would stand up to me and anyone else, wanted a family, and she was pretty.



So, it was you that took the best one.....

How are women in my age bracket like parking spots at a mall?

The Good Ones are already taken. All that is left is either Handicapped or Way Out there.


Quit looking at women in your age bracket.


That's only fair, women sure aren't looking within their own age bracket.

One of the things that seems to escape most men is the fact that any healthy (physically and mentally) male with a work ethic will be stalked like a 7 point bull elk during rifle season in an over the counter unit by the female of the species. Almost all stink of desperation.. They have bought into the myth of the "women can have everything" narrative, and refuse to acknowledge that they can't, anymore than males.


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Why are you fugking idiots talking about women vs men biology?

It has nothing to do with the current state of marriage in the United States.


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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
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Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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My buddy always giving me schitt, says I'm not doing my part to keep us from being out-bred. Poor bastard has 4 kids.

Knew early on I never wanted kids. Got snipped at 22. Had a lot of fun along the way. Took awhile to find a pretty, smart, educated woman who didn't want kids, but I found her.

Gotta be responsible.


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Originally Posted by deflave
Why are you fugking idiots talking about women vs men biology?

It has nothing to do with the current state of marriage in the United States.



Women lost (by choice or by circumstance) their place in the world. As a group, they behave similarly to any other group that loses it's culture (think aborigines, native Americans, black Americans, second generation Asian immigrants) -- without the framework a culture provides in the form of rules, expectations, traditions, and rewards, the results are messy. Humans aren't wired to function without cultural norms.


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Originally Posted by Beretta_Shooter916
My buddy always giving me schitt, says I'm not doing my part to keep us from being out-bred. Poor bastard has 4 kids.

Knew early on I never wanted kids. Got snipped at 22. Had a lot of fun along the way. Took awhile to find a pretty, smart, educated woman who didn't want kids, but I found her.

Gotta be responsible.



Congrats on never becoming a father.


Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Originally Posted by Dutch
Originally Posted by deflave
Why are you fugking idiots talking about women vs men biology?

It has nothing to do with the current state of marriage in the United States.



Women lost (by choice or by circumstance) their place in the world. As a group, they behave similarly to any other group that loses it's culture (think aborigines, native Americans, black Americans, second generation Asian immigrants) -- without the framework a culture provides in the form of rules, expectations, traditions, and rewards, the results are messy. Humans aren't wired to function without cultural norms.


That’s some deep thinking.

LOL


Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Originally Posted by Fubarski
Humans been round for millions a years, without marriage.


No. Humans have been around for millions of years without effective birth control and without roles available for women other than raising their inevitable offspring.

For most of human history family was one’s only security and one’s only retirement plan, women wanted children, there were no other careers available.

To answer your quote, I don’t know of a single human society, past or present, without rules governing who could legitimately sleep with who AKA “marriage”.

How else are you gonna get a bunch of guys to cooperate in a society if they can have no reasonable assumptions that the kids they are raising really are theirs and not some other guy’s?

Women always know their kids are their own, guys don’t. In that sense an unfaithful wife is much more dangerous to the cohesion and harmony of the society than an unfaithful male. Lots of societies threw rocks at adulterous women, hardly anyone threw rocks at guys.

Eastern Woodland Indians got around this issue by having a woman’s kids raised mostly by her brothers and/or other male blood relatives rather than the probable biological father.


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There is another one from the other side....However, this one seems to fit the way many here see women..

"Once upon a time, in a land far away, a beautiful, independent,
self-assured princess happened upon a frog as she sat, contemplating
ecological issues on the shores of an unpolluted pond in a verdant
meadow near her castle. The frog hopped into the princess' lap and
said:
"Elegant Lady, I was once a handsome prince, until an evil witch cast
a spell upon me. One kiss from you, however, and I will turn back
into the dapper, young prince that I am and then, my sweet, we can marry
and set up housekeeping in your castle with my mother, where you can
prepare my meals, clean my clothes, bear my children, and forever feel
grateful and happy doing so."

That night, as the princess dined sumptuously on a repast of lightly
sauteed frog legs seasoned in a white wine and onion cream sauce,
she chuckled to herself and thought:

I don't f-ing think so!!!"


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Originally Posted by battue
There is another one from the other side....However, this one seems to fit the way many here see women..

"Once upon a time, in a land far away, a beautiful, independent,
self-assured princess happened upon a frog as she sat, contemplating
ecological issues on the shores of an unpolluted pond in a verdant
meadow near her castle. The frog hopped into the princess' lap and
said:
"Elegant Lady, I was once a handsome prince, until an evil witch cast
a spell upon me. One kiss from you, however, and I will turn back
into the dapper, young prince that I am and then, my sweet, we can marry
and set up housekeeping in your castle with my mother, where you can
prepare my meals, clean my clothes, bear my children, and forever feel
grateful and happy doing so."

That night, as the princess dined sumptuously on a repast of lightly
sauteed frog legs seasoned in a white wine and onion cream sauce,
she chuckled to herself and thought:

I don't f-ing think so!!!"



And died a dried up, bitter, old useless spinster cat lady


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I remind my wife weekly that she won the man prize and she agrees..... win/win smile


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PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha

Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Oh and antelope _sniper knows more about this issue than all the fudds here combined..... this ain't Mayberry anymore


Originally Posted by Judman
PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha

Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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