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You can find a lab to find whatever you would like found in a sample.
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I refuse to believe any of this.
You rebel! Did you have your deer checked? Never mind. Don't answer that. salty303 told me that zuckerberg is wtching as we type.
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Soo that's what they mean by herd immunity. Ha .. good one!
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My dogs are just recovering from sniffles/sneezing. Month long wait to get into vets unless it is "life threatening" - how is one to know unless checked? Probably Covid- everything else is, .... everything else is catching it, looks like. Damn you unvaxxed!
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Deer herds have been suspected in a bunch of diseases already.
Do you remember an outbreak of E.Coli in apple juice back in the mid-90's? They thought it was coming from a convergence of several factors. 1) The deer herd had grown dramatically due to farming. 2) The deer were attracted to the apple orchards 3) They were munching on apples 4) The migrant workers were dumping in the orchards 5) The feces were infecting the deer 6) The deer would dump in the orchards 7) The migrants would drop an apple or two on the ground and then put it back in the basket
The E.Coli from the deer mixed with the E.Coli in the migrants and you finally came up with a strain that could exist in both guts. In deer, it was fairly benign. In humans, it was devastating.
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Why would Penn State be doing a study on Iowa deer and covid?
They sure as hell don't have to go to Iowa to find deer. And i'd guess that Iowa has people smart enough to study their own deer.
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The retards will never stop. Just ignore them.
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"In September last year, computer models [ at Harvard] suggested SARS-CoV-2 could easily bind to and enter the deer's cells. A recent survey [ by John Hopkins] of white-tailed deer in the Northeast and Midwest found that 40% of them had antibodies against SARS-CoV-2. Now veterinarians at The Pennsylvania State University have found active SARS-CoV-2 infections in at least 30% of deer tested across Iowa during 2020." https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsa...-alter-the-course-of-the-global-pandemicThe studies referenced were published by the National Academy of Sciences and the research done by scientists at Harvard, John Hopkins and Penn State respectively as I indicated in the brackets above. Apparently, the deer don't get sick, but are suspected as likely reservoirs for the virus that will make eradication impractical. Surprise, ...Surprise, ...Surprise --- NOT !!! Harvard --- OpensecretsJohns Hopkins --- OpensecretsPenn State --- Opensecrets
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Lol...our deer are so damn jumpy that I haven't been able to get an arrow off at one this year...much less cough on one.
This is just more liberal BULLSHIT.
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I dont believe it, our deer this year are obviously social distancing
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Our deer at the lease in Alabama seem to be doing ok. The study indicated the deer don't get sick with obvious symptoms, but can carry the virus. A similar example (my own analogy) would be bats and rabies. Bats can carry rabies without being sick. I want to know who’s out in the woods running down deer and sticking a swab up their nose to test them for COVID. They test roadkill and deer harvested by hunters, etc. Why would Penn State be doing a study on Iowa deer and covid?
They sure as hell don't have to go to Iowa to find deer. And i'd guess that Iowa has people smart enough to study their own deer. The study is actually part of ongoing chronic wasting disease surveillance. The Covid antibody test probably wasn't a hard thing to add to the existing effort that collects samples for CWD. So I understand that PA has a hotspot for CWD, and the next closest hotspot is Iowa: From the above CWD graphic, it's not hard to see why Penn State researchers would expand their study to Iowa if they wanted a greater population for data than just what PA had. I read in the Olean Times Herald: "Overall, 33% of the samples statewide in Iowa tested positive, and the Pennsylvania portion of the same study found 31% of the 199 Keystone State deer tested positive for the antibodies."
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Is there a solution for this?
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Is there a solution for this? People lying? I doubt it.
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If the virus has the ability to spread into *wild* deer herds, which avoid human contact, then it has spread much broader in the human population. Meaning the number of asymptomatic cases must be higher than reported.
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Our deer at the lease in Alabama seem to be doing ok. The study indicated the deer don't get sick with obvious symptoms, but can carry the virus. A similar example (my own analogy) would be bats and rabies. Bats can carry rabies without being sick. I want to know who’s out in the woods running down deer and sticking a swab up their nose to test them for COVID. They test roadkill and deer harvested by hunters, etc. Why would Penn State be doing a study on Iowa deer and covid?
They sure as hell don't have to go to Iowa to find deer. And i'd guess that Iowa has people smart enough to study their own deer. The study is actually part of ongoing chronic wasting disease surveillance. The Covid antibody test probably wasn't a hard thing to add to the existing effort that collects samples for CWD. So I understand that PA has a hotspot for CWD, and the next closest hotspot is Iowa: From the above CWD graphic, it's not hard to see why Penn State researchers would expand their study to Iowa if they wanted a greater population for data than just what PA had. I read in the Olean Times Herald: "Overall, 33% of the samples statewide in Iowa tested positive, and the Pennsylvania portion of the same study found 31% of the 199 Keystone State deer tested positive for the antibodies." Northeastern Illinois /southern Wisconsin is much, much closer to Pennsylvania and is a significant cervid covid hot spot, but then that area just happens to be a democrat stronghold ... ...Or... maybe there's another reason behind why they went with the cervid covid "hot spot" in Iowa? Iowa Poll: In a potential 2024 match, Donald Trump leads Joe Biden by double digits
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