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Any experience with Skre Ptarmagin puffys? They have alot of 850 fill down (5.2oz) - but if they are fragile, isnt worth $10.

https://skregear.com/product/ptarmigan-down-pants/


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Have you considered the Rab Photon pant?

I've used them on plenty of subzero sits and they seemingly insulate far beyond their 100gr rating.


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I bought some FL on sale and used them last year with with no issues. Like above, I pack them in and put them on when I get to where I am going. Seem to work just fine.

This fall has been way too warm for them, maybe I will need them for my December muzzleloader hunt...


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Do they make them in white so I can look like the Michelin man?

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Don't think you can beat the Kuiu for packability. I have the Lost Park Parka and love it, but the Kuiu is more packable IMO.. With that said, I don't have the Kifaru pants so take my comments that in mind.


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I use arc'teryx atom lt pants (the leaf version). They are warm.

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See if you can scare up an old pair of the Eddie Bauer Kara Koram parka pants. I'm not sure they are made any longer, but my old orange pants and parka are the same ones they climb the expedition mountains in and you don't need anything else to stay warm. My set rides around in my pack until I get in my stand when it is major cold and that down fill is outstanding. Most of us have lots of jacket options, but lots of your major muscle groups are your gluts and upper thighs. I've often taken just the pants if room is an issue in my pack. I've shot lots of deer wearing that parka outfit because I was comfortable on my stand when the guys in the sweat shirts were cold and walking around.


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I can’t speak to the pants but I’ve got a Kifaru lost jacket in both pull over & full zip - rhino skin is very tough, windproof & reasonably repellent even though it seems thinner than typical ripstop nylon. The insulation is warmer than I thought & hydrophobic as well. If memory serves, the pants have 500d Cordura in the seat & knees like the jackets do on the front & elbows.

I love mine but never needed the pants.

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I have both down pants from kuiu and pack them according to the weather conditions. I only wear them when stationary and only under my pants to avoid damaging them. I would recommend whichever brand you go with has side zippers.

I keep a set, along with my rain gear, on every outting. Comes in handy when you have an unexpected night out.


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Thanks for your meaningful contribution like usual, dumbass...



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Originally Posted by Fireball2


Haha your not a dumbass fireball. 😂😂


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Another option to consider is the Primaloft Gen III Level 7 pant. These are the outer layer in the military's ECWCS. They aren't as stylish and fashionable as the others mentioned, but they work well and can be had for $35 per pair. They are very durable and zip on and off just like the other brands mentioned. They also come in a stone gray color, which I like for hunting.

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Try wool. You might be surprised. Warm wet or dry, fairly light depending on what weight you buy and low odor.


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Originally Posted by Wildcathunter
Another option to consider is the Primaloft Gen III Level 7 pant. These are the outer layer in the military's ECWCS. They aren't as stylish and fashionable as the others mentioned, but they work well and can be had for $35 per pair. They are very durable and zip on and off just like the other brands mentioned. They also come in a stone gray color, which I like for hunting.


I don't think those can be beat as far as bang for the buck. As usual, they aren't the most packable or the lightest of the options, but certainly more durable than most.

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Anyone have a real world weight on the ECWS puffy?


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I'll get a weight on mine later today for you.

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Excellent - Thank you!


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Originally Posted by bwinters
Anyone have a real world weight on the ECWS puffy?



Size large regular weighs 31oz. on my digital scale.

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I have a brand new set of large regulars I will send to anyone that can use them. Way too big for me and they have been talking up space for 2 years.

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