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I bought a Remington 788 a few years ago, just because I love 788s mainly.
Also got one in .243 for my Daughter in Law to use, and you guys who know me have heard the .308 story.
Anyway, with winter setting in serious like I’m finally figuring on working up a stupid load, just to see how far I can push the envelope. grin
I’ve been shooting 55 grain blitz kings over H4350 for a while, but Ben sent me a bunch of 35 grain V-max.
With components as they are, I wanna use what I got instead of trying to locate powder I don’t have.
I bought some new cases, and I’m sitting on a bunch of 4350, both Hogdon and IMR. I’ve also got some IMR4064, and a couple pounds of H335 that I got for doing .223.
Suggestions? I’m gonna see how fast I can push them, and once It warms up I’m gonna work for accuracy.
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4350 pretty slow for 22 250?

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H380 and 4320 is what I generally use.


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Don't think the case will hold enough 4350 for balls to wall speed. Faster powder needed, likely.

And,,, your gun your fun, but the faster you push, the quicker the barrel says bye.

35 grain V max likely to come apart before they get to the target anyway. Aren't those for Hornets & such?

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They'll hold together, boost them with a big dose'T of Varget when you can find some.
I've used that bullet on close range crows & coon calling, hit like a lightening strike.

About 4450 -4500 fps. w/a 26'' barrel.

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I used to use a lot of 3031.

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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
I used to use a lot of 3031.



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50 grains is a heavy as you need to go with the 250.


40 is fun as hell.


SLOW twists and light bullets are just fine...like old ass Mike said.

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Originally Posted by ol_mike
They'll hold together, boost them with a big dose'T of Varget when you can find some.
I've used that bullet on close range crows & coon calling, hit like a lightening strike.

About 4450 -4500 fps. w/a 26'' barrel.

And they fly like a paper airplane past 75 yards

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I have 1 22-250 that loves 40g nbts over Benchmark at 4200 fps. I sold a very clean 788 22-250 at the bouse gun show last year way too cheap. I didn't realize they are worth more than $300 now.

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    Cartridge          : .22-250 Rem. (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .224, 35, Hornady V-MAX 22252
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.350 inch or 59.69 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch or 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.

Matching Maximum Pressure: 64000 psi, or 441 MPa

or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %

These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

113 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.

Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
IMR 3031                           110.0     38.1     2.47    4465    99.8    62527    9507   0.786  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant AR-Comp *C *T              105.5     37.8     2.45    4459   100.0    64000    8812   0.777  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP11 TZ *C *T approximation 104.9     37.8     2.45    4459   100.0    64000    8812   0.778  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 52                  110.0     42.1     2.73    4455    97.6    63757    9868   0.783  ! Near Maximum !
Nitrochemie A/S 0300                94.0     35.8     2.32    4452   100.0    64000    9034   0.779  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2495                      106.7     38.7     2.51    4440   100.0    64000    9377   0.810  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 748                     101.2     40.4     2.62    4439    98.0    64000    9608   0.781  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4895                           108.9     40.4     2.62    4435    95.7    64000    9899   0.787  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2219                         96.4     36.9     2.39    4424    99.5    64000    9189   0.776  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H322                       102.6     36.9     2.39    4424    99.5    64000    9189   0.776  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4895                      105.9     39.2     2.54    4413    96.3    64000    9670   0.787  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-15 *C              109.5     40.6     2.63    4407    95.0    64000    9740   0.789  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP11 ~approximation         109.5     40.6     2.63    4407    95.0    64000    9740   0.789  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA11                       109.5     40.6     2.63    4407    95.0    64000    9740   0.789  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon BL-C2                      103.5     41.9     2.71    4407    97.0    64000    9672   0.790  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203B *C                      110.0     40.8     2.64    4406    95.6    63760    9728   0.790  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Big Game                   108.6     42.9     2.78    4404    95.4    64000    9665   0.783  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2520                      104.1     40.7     2.64    4404    98.6    64000    9409   0.796  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World Match Rifle         106.5     40.7     2.64    4404    98.6    64000    9409   0.796  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.6                       106.5     40.7     2.64    4404    98.6    64000    9409   0.796  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-10x *C             100.4     35.1     2.28    4403   100.0    64000    8799   0.786  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 10                   96.2     38.1     2.47    4403    98.9    64000    9288   0.785  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 508 *C (PCL223)     96.1     38.2     2.47    4400    99.0    64000    9272   0.785  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon CFE223 *C                  108.4     43.8     2.84    4400    94.0    64000    9790   0.783  ! Near Maximum !
SF033 fl, russ. 5,45x39             97.0     36.7     2.38    4399   100.0    64000    8521   0.794  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2206H                       106.1     39.3     2.55    4398    95.6    64000    9620   0.788  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H335                        96.4     39.0     2.53    4396    99.0    64000    9250   0.784  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 202 *C                       106.9     39.0     2.53    4394    99.0    64000    9254   0.788  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N530 *C                 102.0     38.0     2.46    4393    97.1    64000    9390   0.782  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 507 *C             102.8     39.8     2.58    4385    97.1    64000    9409   0.786  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 40                  100.0     37.8     2.45    4382    98.2    64000    9211   0.783  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Wild Boar                  103.6     41.0     2.66    4380    95.6    64000    9509   0.786  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R901                      105.7     37.2     2.41    4377    98.8    64000    9228   0.802  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 200 *C                        96.4     35.0     2.27    4376   100.0    64000    8608   0.799  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S321                       100.8     40.2     2.60    4376    97.3    64000    9409   0.792  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4198                            99.9     33.2     2.15    4374   100.0    64000    8283   0.767  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 8208 XBR                       104.2     38.6     2.50    4372    97.0    64000    9262   0.784  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 9                   106.4     40.7     2.64    4369    95.6    64000    9426   0.787  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 201 *C                       107.3     38.9     2.52    4365    97.0    64000    9333   0.797  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N540 *C                 108.8     40.8     2.64    4365    99.0    64000    9203   0.790  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2207                         95.2     33.0     2.14    4364   100.0    64000    8202   0.782  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2015                      102.9     36.5     2.36    4362   100.0    64000    8648   0.794  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-12                 101.8     38.5     2.49    4350    99.5    64000    8813   0.784  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N140 *C                 109.0     39.6     2.57    4350    99.3    64000    8871   0.787  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.5                        99.6     39.6     2.57    4350    97.9    64000    9132   0.801  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2460                       99.3     39.6     2.57    4350    97.9    64000    9132   0.801  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R902                      109.3     39.1     2.53    4350    97.0    64000    9213   0.798  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2210                         96.9     37.1     2.40    4345    97.7    64000    8996   0.783  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World Precision           110.0     39.7     2.57    4342    96.9    62441    9312   0.803  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S062                         110.0     39.7     2.57    4342    96.9    62441    9312   0.803  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380                       110.0     41.7     2.70    4342    93.0    63376    9489   0.797  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.4                        97.9     38.9     2.52    4341    97.8    64000    9009   0.796  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World AR Plus              97.9     38.9     2.52    4341    97.8    64000    9009   0.796  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-7                   94.2     33.8     2.19    4341   100.0    64000    8310   0.785  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 516                106.1     41.9     2.71    4337    93.1    64000    9357   0.788  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP1 NT *C ~approximation     95.4     34.3     2.22    4335    99.1    64000    8565   0.771  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S341                       104.2     41.6     2.69    4335    95.5    64000    9143   0.788  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4198                       96.2     33.5     2.17    4333    99.3    64000    8476   0.770  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4320                           110.0     40.1     2.60    4331    94.7    61633    9289   0.789  ! Near Maximum !
Elcho TR140 - preliminary data     109.6     42.0     2.72    4329    93.4    64000    9274   0.792  ! Near Maximum !
ADI BM2                             94.8     37.4     2.43    4328    97.7    64000    8899   0.785  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4227                       90.9     30.8     2.00    4327   100.0    64000    7850   0.768  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Benchmark                  103.0     37.6     2.44    4324    97.6    64000    8894   0.785  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2230                       98.6     39.6     2.56    4324    96.4    64000    9015   0.795  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old                      110.0     41.2     2.67    4323    96.0    59939    9556   0.819  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3                         110.0     41.2     2.67    4323    96.0    59939    9556   0.819  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2200                      103.0     38.8     2.51    4322    93.4    64000    9122   0.784  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP2 NT *C ~approximation    105.0     38.6     2.50    4318    96.0    64000    8947   0.784  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N130 *C                 102.9     35.6     2.31    4315   100.0    64000    8248   0.786  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N133 *C                 108.9     36.9     2.39    4315   100.0    64000    8303   0.783  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 11                  110.0     42.1     2.73    4314    94.3    59208    9590   0.809  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot X-Terminator *C            100.6     39.8     2.58    4314    95.4    64000    9062   0.791  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4227                            90.3     30.6     1.99    4313   100.0    64000    7819   0.766  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 7                   103.9     41.3     2.68    4313    93.0    64000    9189   0.796  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World Tactical Rifle       97.1     38.3     2.48    4310    96.5    64000    8841   0.787  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World Tactical Rifle       97.1     38.3     2.48    4310    96.5    64000    8841   0.787  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot TAC *C                     102.7     41.1     2.66    4305    92.3    64000    9190   0.792  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064                      110.0     39.9     2.58    4305    98.7    58181    9438   0.846  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S060                         105.7     38.1     2.47    4304    95.6    64000    8892   0.785  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N125 *C                  92.6     31.9     2.07    4304   100.0    64000    7727   0.781  ! Near Maximum !
Kazan Sunar 308W                    98.0     35.5     2.30    4304   100.0    64000    8226   0.787  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 30                   91.0     29.7     1.92    4299   100.0    64000    7535   0.774  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S335                       106.4     38.6     2.50    4298    99.5    64000    8569   0.796  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 50                  109.4     42.2     2.73    4294    90.9    64000    9162   0.794  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N120 *C                  97.7     33.1     2.14    4293   100.0    64000    7657   0.783  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2208                        110.0     39.6     2.56    4290    94.0    61382    9165   0.797  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2206                        104.9     38.4     2.49    4288    96.1    64000    8772   0.785  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon CFE BLK *C                  93.8     36.9     2.39    4279    97.0    64000    8634   0.786  ! Near Maximum !      


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Originally Posted by Burleyboy
I have 1 22-250 that loves 40g nbts over Benchmark at 4200 fps. I sold a very clean 788 22-250 at the bouse gun show last year way too cheap. I didn't realize they are worth more than $300 now.

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Out of curiosity, what is your 4350 load? I am also sitting on a bunch of it.
Varget, 4064 are definitely my favorites over the years. Bee loading for it forever.

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I still have a M788 in .22-250 that I bought in 1974. Loads over the years have been 52 gr HPBT over IMR4895. Later I switched to 40 gr ballistic tips over IMR4895. My current load is 50 gr ballistic tips over IMR8208. All have been well under 1 MOA.
My primary target has been groundhogs.

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CFE223 is an excellent powder choice for the 22-250. My load of 38 grains CFE223 behind a Winchester 55 grain SL averages 3827 FPS in a 24" barrel



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Originally Posted by Richdeerhunter
I still have a M788 in .22-250 that I bought in 1974. Loads over the years have been 52 gr HPBT over IMR4895. Later I switched to 40 gr ballistic tips over IMR4895. My current load is 50 gr ballistic tips over IMR8208. All have been well under 1 MOA.
My primary target has been groundhogs.


I got my first rifle, a Rem 788 in 22-250 in 1977. I hunted woodchucks with it every chance I got and still would if I could find a woodchuck in Pennsylvania… I still have the rifle only changing the scope. I hunted deer with it too until I got stupid and had to get a “deer” gun. Cripes, I shot a lot of deer with 50gr Sierras in front of 34gr of 3031 and never had to track a deer. Watched all but two drop in their tracks and “runners” were dead within 30 yards. Yeah, then I got a 308 to wound deer with… Not the 308’s fault but mine for thinking it was a deer slayer no matter where I hit them. I was a naive teenager.

Anyways, as others are saying, 4350 is too slow and 4064 would be a better option.

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I dropped 35 grains o H4350 over Federal large rifle primers in Winchester cases and then seated those 55 grain Blitz Kings.
It’s been cold out so I only shot a couple so I could examine the cases.
Ben thinks I can push those 35 grain slugs around 4500 FPS.
I admit I’d get a kick outta seeing that on the chronograph, but when I load I’m usually trying to find one hole groups.
It’s been a long time since I’ve seen a 788 South of $600. They’ve become something of a collectors item, Probably because they’ve got a well earned reputation as good shooters.
I’ve been keeping my eyes open for one in .223, but I’m thinking I’ve got too many already.
No safe queens though. I like to make stuff go bang!
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