Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Ask The Gunwriters So JB, why does the 6.5 CM get more attention than the 7mm-08?

Mule Deer and Jordan (and anyone else using StaBall),

What primers are you using, large rifle or magnums?

I’ve just been using standard LR primers.

I've used standard LR primers as well, with good results. But if a load didn't shoot as well as hoped, wouldn't hesitate to try magnum primers.

Really? Do they test that stuff or something?

Mule Deer and Jordan,

Thank you for your responses. I've been wanting to try some StaBall in my .270 with some 95 gr. TTSXs. If I can ever find it again.

Yep, it works.

17 pages so far. Simple question by OP.

Go figure.

DF

Brings 'em out of the woodwork, huh DF? Topics on the 6.5CM and Leupold always include in depth analogies from people who've never owned or used them. I wish I had that talent.

I have mentioned in earlier posts that marketing actually had relatively little to do with the 6.5 Creedmoor's success.

Initially Hornady designed it as a target round, and since that market isn't huge they didn't do much promoting/marketing.
But after a few years enough hunters had tried it,and found it worked very well, for the word to start getting around.

This was several years after the 6.5 CM was introduced in 2007. Yes, it's been around 15 years now, but a lot of folks somehow think it appeared in the last few years, because that's when considerable "marketing" started appearing in various magazines and on the Internet. But that was in response to the growing interest in the round, not the major cause of its popularity.

Another point is that for "marketing" to work, the product has to live up to its claims--and the 6.5 Creedmoor did, providing a consistently accurate, affordable and relatively low-recoil round suitable for a wide range of uses. The history of American marketing is full of failures that didn't live up to their marketing hype. Probably the Ford Edsel is the classic example, but probably relatively few Campfire members can recall much about it. New Coke was a more recent example.

Fourteen+ years now.

According to a European study, 7mm bullets have been linked to heart disease and cancer. These conditions aren't a problem in Scandinavian countries, or with 6.5mm bullets. The US is slowly being integrated into the European collective. Resistance is futile.

Hornady has been secretly funded by several European governments to develop ammunition that is,

1. Euro friendly;
2. Very accurate (to lure Americans away from the various 30 cal cartridges);
3. Less fattening;
4. Cheaper; and
5. Designed to convert the US to metric.

This last thing is troubling. According to the National Reloading Foundation, metric measurements will change the reloading landscape in the US within a few years. Grains will become grams. Meters will replace feet. 1000 yd ranges will become 914 meters, etc.

It has been happening in the US for several years now. Plummeting 30-06 and 308 Winchester sales. The constant, in your face comparisons of the 6.5CM to the Swede. Canada (a metric country) produces much of the powder for the US market. The same goes for Australia. Lapua bullets are more widely available. Coincidence? No.

Sweden is quietly going about their metric, 6.5mm business. They want the 6.5x55mm restored to its former glory, and are using the 6.5CM as their way in. Keep your eyes on Lindström, Minnesota. The US centre of operations.

Expect warning labels on store bought 7mm and 30 cal ammunition. Swedish will be taught in more US high schools. Vihtavuori powder will arrive in the US in much larger quantities than before, displacing the old standbys. American children will be taught that herring and Köttbullar (Swedish meatballs) are healthy foods.

For many people, it's too late.

[/quote] Fourteen+ years now.[/quote]

Fifteen. It was introduced at SHOT in 2007.

Same study that linked Redgwell to perpetual dumbasssery.

What's wrong? Didn't they bring you your Jell-O?

Plus SAAMI specced 8 twist factory barrels and throats that promote great accuracy from factory loads.

Hold on one second…aren’t those Red Herring? 😜

I think you're right!

😂

John,

Not exactly. The 8-twist barrels and SAAMI throats helped, but the big "marketing" push didn't occur until several years after the 6.5 CM appeared, as I noted in a previous post--and was primarily due to hunters finding out how well it worked, not Hornady's limited early promotion as a target round.

A good example of this is one of my magazine editors, who maybe 4-5 years ago told all the staff writers that he didn't want any more articles involving the 6.5 Creedmoor. Then a year or two later he changed his mind, because so many READERS were demanding more info in the magazine....