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Buzz, is your F150 an '04 model? If so, there should be a Service Bulletin out in regards to the clutch packs in the rear diff. This was a big problem with that year model and a lot of trucks had the shuddering/groaning at 5,000-10,000 miles. Check any Ford truck forum. My '04 is in the shop right now for the same problem, although mine started at 40,000 miles. The head of the service dept said he sees this a lot. If I were you, I would be sure to ask about the TSB regarding clutch packs and why you should have to pay for a known problem/faulty part.

JPro - sent ya a PM.

That's just pure bullsh!t. Sorry. But get real.

Sean, it would be awesome to shove those words down your throat and show you what that buick motor can do. When a motor is putting over 400 horses at only a little over 4600rpm and just a touch over 500 ft lbs torque @ 2900rpm, you dont work that motor nowhere near as hard as you do with todays production 5,000 rpm + motor.

BTW, a 1969 GS " the motor was donated from a wrecked gs " Got 14mpg with a 3 speed auto. And that was in a car that weighed over 4000lbs.

I guess you will have to shove them down my throat, also. Your example of how that motor got to 400 horses is BS. Is your claim based on SAE figures, at the flywheel, corrected numbers???

Wait! Wait! Before you answer I need to put on my BS proof watch.

Fresh rebuild with rv cam and the bowls cleaned up "heads"
They made 370 at the crank stock.

Do you even know what corrected numbers mean? It is interesting when someone challenges your BS that "may" actually have a clue (no offense to prior posters), we start drifting down from 400. One small challenge and we are down to 370 now.

No read again moron. They made 370 horses STOCK. All hes done was add an rv cam" dont know cam info" and clean up the bowls, and tune it while the motor was on the dyno.

Moron, huh. You are a riot. That is the best you can do is an ad hominem response (look it up). The engine wasn't dynoed (most likely), you weren't there for the build, you are speculating at what you wish the numbers would be off of pure bench racing experience.

Heres the truck. Im waiting for him to email more pics.
Ugly color i think

Truck originally had a 454 , 270 horse power i think and would get 6mpg hauling his trailer with his '70 gs on it.

It just kills you to know that a vintage motor such as a 430 that can put down real #'s at low rpm kills toyota, chevy, ford and dodge, gasoline engines.

Now if these buick gearheads could figure out a way to put an fuel inj. setup on these motors, we'd have it made.

How was toyota dyno their motors? Exhaust manifolds off?

No, it doesn't "kill" me in any way. I know what you are claiming, what they are capable of, and how you are changing your story on the fly.

Your words.

"That 430 my friend has is putting out over 400 horses and 500ft lbs torque.....All he did to that 430 was install an RV cam and some glass packs. Everything else is stock on the motor."

Morphed into.

"Fresh rebuild with rv cam and the bowls cleaned up "heads"
They made 370 at the crank stock."

FYI. RV cams are not designed for higher horsepower, they modify the lift and duration to change the torque curve to better suit towing applications. Must have been those glass packs that did it now that I think about it.

You still don't know what "corrected numbers" mean, do you? I figured you would have Googled it by now.

ROTFLMAO

rv cams are for towing. Thats what he needed the truck for. 6mpg with the 454 was killing him on a drive from durango colo. to casper wyo. I'll get all the info on the truck in a few days. Hes out scouting for this years elk hunt.

I still wish buick would go back to their engine designs and really put a big foot into the truck market. No gasoline engines to this day can match the torque those monsters made.Ah well, thats ow gm is killing themselves.

You mean like the 502ci GM crate motor that you can buy new today that produces 512 ft. lbs. of torque at a mere 2800 rpm. Not to bad for their base "towing" engine on 87 octane pump gas.

cast iron 455 buick, 510 ft lbs @ 2800, Over 400 horses @ 4600rpm, and the best thing, it only weighed 610 lbs in cast iron side trim! With what they have out today, you can knock 60-70 lbs by swapping on alum heads and 35bs with an alum intake. 502 i believe is close to 800lbs.

Theres a guy on a buick forum that bought a chevy with a 502 and hes getting 6mpg empty lol. Not bad huh.

So...what happened to your claim that no gasoline engines to this day can match the torque numbers those monsters made? The engine I listed is their towing motor, not their "muscle car" performanc engine. The 455 Buick is an excellent engine. Too bad you are being associated with it and tarnishing it's luster.

http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_10001_10002_760849_-1_10763

wow! 338 horses from a 502?!!! All for $5300

Intake, carb, exe not included.

Maybe chevy should let buick design their heads and get some good flowing heads.

# Compression ratio of 8.75:1
# 92 octane recommended