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Originally Posted by K22
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And Putin is shutting down media, blocking social media, and is contemplating the Russian equivalent of martial law. He's attacked a sovereign nation, which he previously guaranteed the security of. Yet there are people here singing his praise?

"All it takes for evil to thrive in the world is for good men to do nothing."

Ukraine isn't a utopia and corruption is well-documented. But the citizens don't deserve this kind of treatment by Putin. [bleep] Biden. [bleep] Putin. And [bleep] anybody that supports either one of them.


And Biden is telling private companies to censor the view of Americans, to block them from expressing themselves, Washington DC, looks like an armed camp, political prisoners have been in jail in horrid conditions for more than a year, and no country has in the last forty years invaded more sovereign nations and killed more innocent civilians than the United States has.

The irony, or maybe the fact that so many fail to realize it, is amazing. I watched some news go on the other day about how bad the Russia s were because they had shot up a car at a checkpoint and killed an innocent family. Fuq, that was a daily occurrence for years in Iraq.



Let me follow your logic here, Biden asking private companies to do something they should means we should support Putin? This logic doesn't hold water.


WHAT!!!!!!!! You can't be serious. Private companies should be censoring the view of Americans!!!! Are you kidding! What the f**cking socialistic side are you playing on?
The 1st Amendment guarantee's freedom of speech.............................PERIOD! There is no clause in there saying that sure, we have freedom of speech unless someone doesn't like what we are saying and that includes private companies doing business with the PUBLIC! F**CK, I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU SAID THAT PUBLICALLY!!!!
Dude, you are an idiot or just plane ol' ignorant of our freedoms.



actually a private company has no obligation under the first amendment to guarantee free speech.

The First Amendment only protects your speech from government censorship. It applies to federal, state, and local government actors. This is a broad category that includes not only lawmakers and elected officials, but also public schools and universities, courts, and police officers. It does not include private citizens, businesses, and organizations. This means that:

A private school can suspend students for criticizing a school policy;
A private business can fire an employee for expressing political views on the job; and
A private media company can refuse to publish or broadcast opinions it disagrees with.

there are some grey areas - such as social media censoring a politician and your right to access this speech but at the end of the day, they are still a private entity who owns their platform.



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Originally Posted by JoeBob
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And Putin is shutting down media, blocking social media, and is contemplating the Russian equivalent of martial law. He's attacked a sovereign nation, which he previously guaranteed the security of. Yet there are people here singing his praise?

"All it takes for evil to thrive in the world is for good men to do nothing."

Ukraine isn't a utopia and corruption is well-documented. But the citizens don't deserve this kind of treatment by Putin. [bleep] Biden. [bleep] Putin. And [bleep] anybody that supports either one of them.


And Biden is telling private companies to censor the view of Americans, to block them from expressing themselves, Washington DC, looks like an armed camp, political prisoners have been in jail in horrid conditions for more than a year, and no country has in the last forty years invaded more sovereign nations and killed more innocent civilians than the United States has.

The irony, or maybe the fact that so many fail to realize it, is amazing. I watched some news go on the other day about how bad the Russia s were because they had shot up a car at a checkpoint and killed an innocent family. Fuq, that was a daily occurrence for years in Iraq.

Well said!

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And Putin is shutting down media, blocking social media, and is contemplating the Russian equivalent of martial law. He's attacked a sovereign nation, which he previously guaranteed the security of. Yet there are people here singing his praise?

"All it takes for evil to thrive in the world is for good men to do nothing."

Ukraine isn't a utopia and corruption is well-documented. But the citizens don't deserve this kind of treatment by Putin. [bleep] Biden. [bleep] Putin. And [bleep] anybody that supports either one of them.


And Biden is telling private companies to censor the view of Americans, to block them from expressing themselves, Washington DC, looks like an armed camp, political prisoners have been in jail in horrid conditions for more than a year, and no country has in the last forty years invaded more sovereign nations and killed more innocent civilians than the United States has.

The irony, or maybe the fact that so many fail to realize it, is amazing. I watched some news go on the other day about how bad the Russia s were because they had shot up a car at a checkpoint and killed an innocent family. Fuq, that was a daily occurrence for years in Iraq.

Well said!


And how does it justify users' support for Putin in this conflict?

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Look at the percentage of Ukrainian voters who did not want the government they got in 2014.

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Originally Posted by UPhiker
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And ill post it again. All you who are acting like ukraine is some special freedom loving haven that desperately needs our help, soros is backing them. That should be all one needs to know. Its not hard guys
Anybody who's killing Russians is alright with me. You know, the old "the enemy of my enemy is my friend".


On what basis did you come to determine that Russia is your enemy? Not to imply, if they're not ones enemy, they must then be their ally.


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Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
The non-stop cheerleading and complete lack of detachment and objectivity in the news channels and pundits over this should cause any clear thinker to step back and wonder why.


^^^^This^^^^


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Originally Posted by kingston
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The non-stop cheerleading and complete lack of detachment and objectivity in the news channels and pundits over this should cause any clear thinker to step back and wonder why.


^^^^This^^^^



For sure.


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Originally Posted by kingston

Very good read. Some in here need to check it out amd learn a little about what they are siding with. Ukraines gov can eat [bleep]

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Originally Posted by irfubar
I do see the Democrats money laundering scheme is in danger..... so send our kids to fight for it..... think about that war mongers


Just yesterday, Bill Clinton announced that he's firing up the Clinton Foundation again.


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Originally Posted by WTM45
Look at the percentage of Ukrainian voters who did not want the government they got in 2014.


They were tired of the Nazi World Order cabal Zero and Soros and Biden saddled them with and who were stealing all the US foreign aid money sent to help the poor folks develop businesses.

Clue: Ukraine was Kilerys biggest Clinton Foundation donor.


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Please explain to me why/how my thinking is about 75 years behind the times.

The U.S. is part of NATO and wherever NATO goes, so goes the U.S. The inclusion of U.S. military/industrial power was the deciding factor in two World Wars that started in Europe, so Europe's security interests are our security interests too.
Please explain to me why the USA needs to be a part of NATO. It drags us into Europe's fiascos.

Please explain to me how the world benefitted from the USA entering WW1 which was winding down on its own. Please explain how the USA injecting itself into WW1 did not cause WW2 the worst tragedy the human race has ever seen. I'll give you a hint about the problem you will have justifying our meddling. It left over half the world dominated by communism and the two world wars have left us completely bankrupt. We should have no quarrel with Russia.



The value of NATO seems self-evident, no war in Europe involving NATO members.

There are many factors that led to WW2, but the crushing terms of the treaty of Versailles led to the rise of Hitler. U.S. President, Democrat Woodrow Wilson, tried to modify the treaty with his 14 Points plan, but only partially succeeded. Anytime there are major changes, there are almost always unintended/unforeseen consequences. As they say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

The only good thing that Russia ever did for the U.S. was to sell us Alaska. Imperial Russia was an oppresive monarchy before the 1917 Revolution. The USSR was an oppressive communist dictatorship until it imploded. If Putin wants to recreate the borders of the former USSR, he is going to face some push back from some of the now independent republics.

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Originally Posted by rj308
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Where is the mad rush to escape? Are there thousands of refugees at the borders?
History has proven, when a populace is being destroyed people run.

Don't fall for the media script.



You're wrong. I live in Romania. Around 60,000 have fled here to Romania, so far and between Romania. Hungary, Slovacia and Poland, approximately 1,600,000. You know nothing, I have seen it with my own eyes. You don't know what you are talking about. RJ


WTM45, I'm not sure I understand what you're saying isn't true?


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It wasnt supposed to happen like this. Hillary was supposed to win.

The Wiards and Warlocks prevented that. Trump has it all, IOW, he knew about the crap going on in Ukraine and with Soros and Bidet and the Nazi WO. So did Putin, about the Bioweapons being developed to take Russia out.. Putin hates the Nazi WO Bolsheviks. Hes a nationalist, like Trump.

He wanted to take them out. Trump told him to wait until he was out of the WH to do it or Trump would take out Putins beautiful gold domed buildings.

Trump is crashing the economy under Bidet. Trump is destroying the DNC. Putin is destroying the cabal in Ukraine.

Btw, Soros is going down. Q said they have crosshairs on him. I guess Soros believes Q. Hes sure getting nervous. He had planned on NATO to step in and save him and destroy Putin. Flimsey wants that too. It's not happening.

As Q said, Nothing can stop what is coming.

As Q said, Patriots are in control.

It's a heck of a movie.

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No one has a right to control something the public needs -gas,food,communications,etc...in such ways that serve entirely their own personal interests.


So you're a socialist?


On the contrary.You on the other hand are-supporting the idea that a private business has the right to monopolize an entire industry or even an economy.

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Originally Posted by Bristoe
Eventually, much of Western Europe will be forced to minimize its connection to America because of the hardships that America's aggression against Russia has caused to Western Europe.

America is forcing the EU to go its own way. The EU needs to buy reasonably priced energy from Russia. America needs to buy raw materials and energy from Russia.

GloboHomo has driven a wedge between natural trading partners and is attempting to escalate another fratricidal war in between Russia and Eastern Europe,...and maybe Western Europe as well. But I doubt it. Western European nations know that they need trade with Russia more than they need whatever it is that the current America can provide.

Among other things, GloboHomo is a death cult. It's making Russia and China stronger and isolating America from its traditional allies.


Over the last decade we've seen the almost absolute convergence of GloboHomo and the Neocons. It's their plotting that the world suffers under. The factors contributing to this alignment are the history we're living.


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Originally Posted by tylerw02
And Putin is shutting down media, blocking social media, and is contemplating the Russian equivalent of martial law. He's attacked a sovereign nation, which he previously guaranteed the security of. Yet there are people here singing his praise?

"All it takes for evil to thrive in the world is for good men to do nothing."

Ukraine isn't a utopia and corruption is well-documented. But the citizens don't deserve this kind of treatment by Putin. [bleep] Biden. [bleep] Putin. And [bleep] anybody that supports either one of them.


Many argue that Putin is trying to save Ukraine. They cite his slow and measured advance and his not destroying critical infrastructure as evidence and that he intends to swaddle the inflamed Ukraine.


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Originally Posted by kingston
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Originally Posted by WTM45
Where is the mad rush to escape? Are there thousands of refugees at the borders?
History has proven, when a populace is being destroyed people run.

Don't fall for the media script.



You're wrong. I live in Romania. Around 60,000 have fled here to Romania, so far and between Romania. Hungary, Slovacia and Poland, approximately 1,600,000. You know nothing, I have seen it with my own eyes. You don't know what you are talking about. RJ


WTM45, I'm not sure I understand what you're saying isn't true?


Are the people who are "leaving" right now truly Ukrainian citizen "refugees?" One has to look at the daily, weekly, monthly and yearly numbers of those who are visiting or are simply transitory. The regs are lax on visa requirements for neighboring nation citizens. Since 2014, look at the total numbers of immigrants as well as emigrants.

There has to be a complete big picture understanding of how Ukraine currently establishes citizenship, how many people are considered citizens and if these people who are leaving are simply going back to their real country of citizenship.

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Originally Posted by WTM45
Look at the percentage of Ukrainian voters who did not want the government they got in 2014.


Your position would be well served by posts that could stand on their own as complete thoughts. One has no idea what you're trying to say with these rhetorical gasps.


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You have to do a little bit of research yourself. Nothing I post is "rhetorical" as it is easily found through investigation.

Or, you just have your opinion already formed.

Prompts people to research for themselves, rather than rely on opinion.

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Originally Posted by WTM45
Originally Posted by kingston
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Originally Posted by WTM45
Where is the mad rush to escape? Are there thousands of refugees at the borders?
History has proven, when a populace is being destroyed people run.

Don't fall for the media script.



You're wrong. I live in Romania. Around 60,000 have fled here to Romania, so far and between Romania. Hungary, Slovacia and Poland, approximately 1,600,000. You know nothing, I have seen it with my own eyes. You don't know what you are talking about. RJ


WTM45, I'm not sure I understand what you're saying isn't true?


Are the people who are "leaving" right now truly Ukrainian citizen "refugees?" One has to look at the daily, weekly, monthly and yearly numbers of those who are visiting or are simply transitory. The regs are lax on visa requirements for neighboring nation citizens. Since 2014, look at the total numbers of immigrants as well as emigrants.

There has to be a complete big picture understanding of how Ukraine currently establishes citizenship, how many people are considered citizens and if these people who are leaving are simply going back to their real country of citizenship.



Thank you.

I'd like to see rj308's response to your position now.


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