And their Soros installed government. Nobody is actually being killed anyway. It's all propaganda bullshit.

I hope Putin wins.

It's Putin and the world versus the communist globalists.

There is no doubt that Ukraine is corrupt! But, many normal, innocent people are dying, or losing everything they own including their country. It would be much the same as standing by and watching the total destruction of Denver (pick your on liberal $hit hole) just because the majority of the people are devote leftest or clueless!

A lot of people just wanting to live their lives are losing everything! I don’t have an answer, but total destruction of the country doesn’t seem to be a viable answer to a big problem! memtb

The sanctions and present state of the Ruble aren’t helping the Russian citizens any at all.

Putin doesn’t want to destroy the Ukraine.

Where is the mad rush to escape? Are there thousands of refugees at the borders?
History has proven, when a populace is being destroyed people run.

Don't fall for the media script.

Refugees bailing out ain’t propaganda bs. The citizens of the Ukraine are little different from us when you compare crooked governments and who installed those governments.

You sir/madame are incredibly stupid or asinine.....neither a glowing endorsement as to your personality traits! memtb

There are people fleeing the areas getting attack with women and children already in Poland and other nearby countries. The men are fighting. All men 18-60 are not allowed to leave, but are ordered to fight. Something they seem very willing to do, including their politicians. How many internet heroes and our politicians would do the same?

I saw today that Ukraine cut the fresh water canal to Crimea. They dammed it up to stop the flow. One million plus people have had water only a couple hours a day and then its shut down.

43 million plus population. How many are running away? How many are fighting?

If the Soviet soldiers were doing to that population what is being claimed there would be MILLIONS at the airports, ports and at the border checkpoints.

They are no different than any other population would be if war atrocities were being committed.
History has proven it.

Just trying to understand what is going on....makes me wonder why there are so many men of fighting age leaving the Country? at least that is what I am seeing on the news.
So many are picking up arms to defend their Country, yet so many are calmly leaving, which is it?
Is there a source for non bullshyte?

This is anecdotal but the Ukraine recently announced that it was going to renew its efforts and a restart for its space program.

Not allowing men to leave is insane.Only a cruel dictator would impose such a rule.Do you really believe that they are willing to comply? You don't think they are terrified of getting sniped by the Ukrainian army?

War forces hard choices. Whether that’s right or wrong in the eyes of the outside world is debatable.

Great thread- it's a one stop, Ignore the idiots spot.

Many Ukrainian's want to be part of Russia. This isn't being reported by the main stream media

You got that right, there are some dumb MF'ers on here. Do some independent research and the truth is pretty evident. Putin is a madman with an army and nuclear arsenal.

It seems to boil down to which lying jew do you believe.

If one considers the influence the MSM has,that fact alone is more criminal than any act in this war.It is not that they aren't reporting it but that they are lying about everything.

I doubt the public has a clue what the truth is

I totally agree with you.

I just wish there was a way to excise the cancer without cutting the patient.

Last I heard, 800,000 had fled to bordering countries. One bordering country, Belarus, is on the side of the Russians, although not yet an actual combatant. Considering the dangers of travel in a war zone, 800,000 is a remarkable number.

Edited to correct dumbass “facts”

I guess we are still living in the times when you would get tortured or executed if you did not want to fight for any government or ideology.It is shocking that people believe this is how things should be.

I see that you come on-line,drop your never-Trump,pro-Biden schitt and haul ass.

This is typical behavior for a pond scum sucking member of the Demonrat/Commie/homo/pedo Party.

You go girl.lol

I was watching videos at the polish border. Many women and children and much of the men coming across looked middle Eastern and African not native Ukrainian. It appeared as though many of the "men" running were not native.

Bb

It is what it is.


Now,,,What are your thoughts on the ways that the oh so civilized government of Canada treated the truckers and their supporters most recently?

Your thoughts on that?

And what's being shown may be a completely different country's border

I hate being a fence sitting, no strong convictions, wishy-washy, dumschidt.....but given the complete and total lack of verifiable information, photo shopping, it's hard to form an opinion on any of this Uke invasion. It seems the only thing I can get a bearing on is...if Soros and Hillary are for something, then I have to presume it is bad for almost everyone else.

I agree.

Those are savants to be opposite of.

I do not claim I fully understand what is, or has been going on over there. Though I can not condone Putin's handling of the situation. Can't blame the Ukrainian people who wish to keep their corrupt system over the worse Russian rule. If I lived in Ukraine, in all liklyhood I'd be putting my life on the line to resist the Russian action as well.

I admire the underdog & pray for a miracle.

Well I just told you that I am against dictators so that should answer your question.Your opinion on the matter leaves me without a doubt that you are a democrat regardless of what you say.

Most people have no clue what happened in Ukraine in 2014, and what's been happening there since. All they "know" is Putin bad, Zelinski good.

"The news media can't be trusted at all!!!"...................
"The news media says Zelinsky is a hero, and we should go to war against Putin!!!!"

Ugh.

Hardly a democrat here so do doubt it.

Shocking that both of us live under dictatorships, eh?
Did you know that we have people fleeing California? Yeah, it’s true. They’re known as refugees.

Now back to the thread.

Up wit da goot stuff

Interesting take on things. So you are saying that it’s all fake and nobody has been killed?

Makes sense.... after all the MSM media, Biden, the Davo's crew etc.... tell us that is what we should think.... so congrats on your brilliant analysis.... bet you were a full fledged covtard also?

Remember recently when Putin stated the West was controlled by pedophiles? of course you didn't know. the MSM ignored it.

Putin claims he is hunting Nazi's..... so maybe the casualties were Nazi's?

Who knows , the MSM propaganda agenda is driving the narrative

So who is more inclined to trust Putin's word vs. the MSM, swamp controlled media?

Does anyone believe that NATO has been the aggressor? there is real proof that indicates this.

So all the war mongers , Putin is evil crowd should try and research a little deeper.... and a clue, the answers are usually polar opposite of what the MSM narrative is .

I would think after the covid farce people would learn these things

This thread right here shows what a collection of idiots the fire is.

carry on

LOL

Your post show you are most likely a pedophile

And yet right around every corner, there you are

Dumbest of the dumb speaks. You stole the title from jag and VG. Congrats!

So I hear there is a 30% drop in ruble value. Well my 401K is down 10%, and inflation is 20%. So I am in the same 30% FJB boat.

OK boomer!

I like those guys... so that puts me in good company.
Oh and none of use support or condone pedophilia as you do... I would even go as far as saying a pedophile would be in serious trouble if caught by any of those guys... so run you pervert

Damn, that hurt.

And what are the two major political opponents saying???

On one side, you have a head of state that was a comedian and sometime actor who is trying to rally support for world pressure to oust an invading army from his country…
On the other, you have a career KGB official who insists NATO is a threat and he needs a “buffer zone” against the Nazis and drug addicts of the west…

ETA: I know who I’d believe

Chechens are from Chechnya which is in the far south of Russia nowhere near Ukraine or Belarus. Belarus is Orthodox Christian.

Thats it?

LOL

You have to be fake, there is no way a supposed grown man could be this dumb. Must be a Montana transplant.

Only 10%? You are one of the lucky ones.

You don't have to believe either one but the media and many in our government want us to think those are the only choices we have. Much the same way they present political candidates to us, in this hand is a rattle snake and this hand a copper head. Take you pick. We need to learn to refuse and force our own hand on them.

https://mobile.twitter.com/qasemebnlhasan/status/1499587999264219137

To add a little fuel to the fire…….

It is inevitable that Russia will takeover Ukraine. Zelinski needs to surrender Ukraine to Putin and delay the inevitable. Anything less just prolongs Ukrainian suffering and more death and world markets will continue deteriorating. If Zelinski gives up, many innocent lives will be saved. If he doesn’t, more death and destruction will fall on the Ukrainian people. It is inevitable just like the laws of physics. We may not like it but that is reality
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I have been open and transparent as to who I am.... I have even posted hundreds of pictures... YOU?
You are obviously a basement pedophile troll.... prove me wrong

The covid hysteria is over.... so they need something new to scare everyone.... the worlds a stage... and Zelinsky is playing his role

Exactly and confirms what I hear about you in PM's from other guys.

LOL

Like COVID, nothing seems to add up with this Ukraine/Russia deal either.

That’s right. Dem’s want to prolong this as long as possible. Maybe they can use this as an excuse for expanded mail in voting this fall.

Been too busy to pay much attention to things. No tv helps too. It’s one of those things, wait and see.

Why don't you post those pms up here. You won't because you a liberal.

That is a wise stance at this point

Brother Raeford,
I posted this a couple days ago on another thread.
I too was scratching my head, as things didn't add up.
After some serious thought, this is the conclusion I came to.... after I posted this people provided links that mirrored my theory..



Putin did this so the West would place sanctions upon Russia. Why would he do that you may ask?
Well this is a play to destroy the petro dollar. The U.S. has had an unfair economic advantage with the dollar being the reserve currency. Russia has suffered the most from it.
Russia has energy, oil, gas, coal etc.... the US has dollars... worthless fiat dollars.
Putin has been planning this for a long time, he has sold his US treasury bonds, stock piled gold and arraigned trade agreements with China.
Putin will soon only sell his energy tp countries willing to pay with gold. This will collapse the USD ponzi scheme... China is in on it.
As for invading Ukraine it serves the purpose of us imposing sanctions therefore giving Putin & China the green light to circumvent the USD.
Also Ukraine is the bread basket of Europe, think of it as Europe's California.... this plays into China, Russia and Belarus entering into agreement not to export potash... no potash no fertilizer.. no nat gas , no fertilizer.
Putin is playing chess against the Davo's crew and Biden is playing checkers....
Inflation will finish off the USD...
Buckle up boys & girls...
Oh and don't fall for the propaganda.... don't be stupid....
Seems everyone is right back to believing the press and deep state... wtf

He is FOS, he has no PM's regarding me.... well maybe 1 from JeffO.... lol

Figures calls4cum and JeffO are homeys.

Literally gayer'n aids.

You still fat, drunk and broke?

Gayer'n aids and wrong about everything.


You two are a dynamic duo.



What else did the other gals in the bathroom say about Fubar?

It is what it is

That is a brilliant fuggin conclusion!!

Did you wash behind your ears like mommy's been harping on you to do?

Ya. We go from trying to save lives (masks, jabs, social distancing, ect.) to wanting to kill people. Damnnnn

LOL!!!!!


https://twitter.com/bonjodie12/status/1499404070850682890

Shows the ignorance of their "usefull Idiots" callnum is so proud... lmao

Maybe Russians living in Ukraine, but not real Ukrainians.
Why do so many here talk about how corrupt Ukraine is, while totally ignoring that Putin is worth $200 BILLION? Although the list is on msn, it was compiled by Forbes.
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/entertain...ders/ss-AAUBSFs?ocid=uxbndlbing#image=29

Reason is the Ukrainian corruption served the Biden's..... laundering our tax dollars
Putin's corruption is non of our business... let the Russian citizens worry about that.
You leftist are at least consistent in your lack of logic

Pretty much my thoughts as well. It’s like a bunch of monkeys in the zoo scratching their rears and letting the others smell it in some type of contest.

Yet just as callnum, here you are too.

I posed a question to you yesterday, it was clearly Kryptonite as you avoided it when you had a opportunity to stand for your side.

You keep thinking that. Ukraine is a poor country. You'd think they'd try a country with more money.

Ukraine is a Soros installed govt????……LMFAO ….🤣
Apparently you have no idea of who Soros is….

I’ve got a personal friend that was in Kiev when it was bombed. Trust me, he didn’t think it was fake at all. He’s been on Tucker Carlson since then saying the same thing.

You making up your own facts now???
Did you forget how why what Hunter Biden was doing in Ukraine when his dad was Vice President???
A little thing about getting a prosecutor fired???
A prosecutor who was investigating corruption of an oil company???
THE oil company that had Hunter Biden on the payroll????
Remember Joe Biden bragging about threatening withholding aid unless that prosecutor was fired???
The current situation in Ukraine has nothing to do with corruption in Ukraine….rather a LACK of corruption between Ukraine and Putin…

I see people living in bumfcuk nowhere know more about eastern Europe politics and learned everything from some 100% accurate news site run by people just like them, who know the truth... oh, and Facebook.


They dont belive any videos online, no photos, no International news site, no first hand witnesses... but they buy the rubbish Putin sells, hook, line and sinker.


Usefull Kremlin agents they are...


In the meanwhile, Putin is shelling civilian areas and 18 year old Russian conscripts are getting killed in cold mud.
Even I have seen to much gore of killed Russian kids these days.

As you said, Biden had the prosecutor fired, by the Ukrainian government.... to protect Biden
How much of the taxpayers billions in aid made it back to our Democrat politicians?

A bigger reason Putin invaded was NATO aggression I believe.

I see another mental midget has joined the 'Fire.

Maybe the picture of the Ukrainians holding the wood guns threw him off?

You’re correct. That’s what comes of reading too much crap in a hurry. Fixed it.

I'm borrowing this from high countries post. I hope he doesn't mind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nUZekJ3pfM&t=8s&ab_channel=GlennBeck

I'm not trying to apologize for Putin here, but Elon Mush has more money than that.

Could it be there are no good guys in this? At least not at a government level?

Well ya, but.......but....well....

Ok, I give.
Can't argue with any of it.
I would add that the argument for distance between mother Russia and nato is legit in that putin is pushing back on the libs/dems/neocons/globalists et al policy of nuclear primacy.
Call putin what you want, but stupid isn't on the list.

Funny coming from someone too dumb and cowardly to serve in the military.

Hey big trophy cat hunter, are you and that fat weak ginger Land Tawney over in Ukraine seizing evil firearms? How's that BHA firearms ban coming? lmao

Fugging clam troll.

Why do you care about guns? You are afraid to drive on snow packed roads and you are to fat to hike. Lay off the cheese burgers for a bit and then get back to me.

Correct. But Musk owns corporations while Putin's only income is supposedly a $140,000 government salary.

Putin put some peace into this world and aim a few of those big nukes straight where it will put some sense into their heads or better yet just wipe them out.

The 200 billion net worth is debatable. Fortune magazine uses an awful lot of weasel words in this article about his net worth.

https://fortune.com/2022/03/02/vladimir-putin-net-worth-2022/



Also from the article.


The $200 billion figure was estimated by financier Bill Browder who, in a testimony to the U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee in 2017, said that Putin amassed most of his wealth after a Moscow court jailed oligarch Mikhail Khodorkovsky in 2003 for fraud and tax evasion:

It was intended for simpletons and happy that you found brilliance within it.

It is what it is.

Not to get in the weeds about Musk, but the bulk of his revenue is from .Gov.

My main point still stands, that is, this could be a fight between bastards.
When it comes to fights between Marxists and Nationalists, I'll take the Nationalist every time.

https://www.unz.com/article/the-land-where-history-died-part-1/

Excellent Hos!

So you swallow the lying commie Bolshevik MSM?

HE said, "See what fruit the tree produces before eating it".
Good is evil and evil good.


So, the MSM says WHO,CDC,FDA,AMA, FBY, CYA,DOJ, IRS, DOS, Faukki, Kilery, Zero, Piglosi, Bidet, Schumer is good and Trump, Que and Putin bad. Ok, got ir?

Thats just the kind of recent history,, Lots to share about WW1 thru WW2,, The Bolshevik years, And What does Putin really mean ,when Russia says going after Nazi's? Ashkenazi?

Please excuse my ignorance…. But what NATO aggression are you referring to????

Just last month your hero was claiming that there was going to be no invasion of Ukraine….. that it was all hype and anti Russian disinformation….

The Bolshevicks want to take Russia back but the Russians are not having it.The Russians might end up taking the Bolshevicks.

Hope this helps

Oh and who is my "hero" ?

And Upkiker will take the commies or neonazis side even if they are working for Soros and doing GOF Virus research for Gates to turn loose on the world for massive population reduction.

MORE INSIDE INFO PROMISE THAN GUESS AT 7:00.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?473341-1/bill-melinda-gates-covid-19

BS. We wouldnt mind having NWO deep state cabal controlled Nukes and Bioweapons Labs across the border from us in Mexico would we?

I mean, why would deep state controlled NATO and UN EU buds want to harm now non- Communist Russia with its Nationalist leader Putin who is restraining the progress of SOROS, ZERO and the WEFs NWO I'll lumin naughty?

Ashke-nazi. I would say................YES! Same group who quarterbacked the Bolshevik Revolution.

This is Obamas Syria. He tried everything he could to get us involved in that “war”, he’s not going to miss his chance again to get us in another conflict…

From Sandbilly

https://vm.tiktok.com/TTPdAAQBVn/

This. But it keeps getting easier to connect all the dots. People will say that this or that guy is stupid, but then they have nothing to add.

Crickets.

Hey where is Middle Mind mIner ?....
Did he not understand the map I posted?

Was this the question?



No you didn’t ask me, quit being an idiot. But if you want to know.

It was pretty obvious that the supply chain problems from COVID, continued low interest rates and lack of workers were going to drive up prices well before any of videos policys had any impact. I’m not too bothered on gas prices myself, just don’t drive the truck around as much.

Maybe if Putin wasn't threatening to take back "historic Russian land (BS)" like the Baltic states, countries wouldn't want to join a defensive pact. Nobody forced anyone to join NATO. They did it of their own free will. Nobody wants parts of Russia, Russia wants other countries.

Tampax, you are entertaining as always. Do you need more tinfoil?

Again your intellect is lacking.... consider , if say, China or Russia wanted to establish military bases in Mexico?
Also NATO should be very careful and selective as to who they let join.... after all we would be obligated to defend them.
As for nobody wanting parts of Russia, our own deep state was happy to accept them.... then launder billions of US tax dollars through them

Maybe Zelinski's people don't want a surrender, eh?

He has probably fled the country.Unless he is stupid enough to get bombed.

TRUTH

The Worlds Swamp is getting drained.

Now, when does Xi take out the NWO Cabal and Zeros and Soros Bioweapons Labs in Tiawan?

BTW, who does Gen Flynn have his 5 fleets off the Chynese coast to help?



MAGA.

Yes it's a time to celebrate.

So would you blame america for attacking mexico if they wete allowing say north korea to build bases and place missles all over our borders? Nah you wouldnt. So i dont blame russia. That said russia is bad as well. I dont know why you care about either of them. Ukraine has been doing the dems/gloablist work for some time now. They are corrupt through and through. May want to do some research and turn off the main stream media

Nm

What if the Ukraine neonazi resistance belongs to the Soros WEF cabal under Poroshenko instead of Zelinski? Just a thought.

And ill post it again. All you who are acting like ukraine is some special freedom loving haven that desperately needs our help, soros is backing them. That should be all one needs to know. Its not hard guys

There are no good players in any of this.

Your first mistake was thinking Ukraine was part of Russia. It isn't, any more than Poland was. Ukraine probably never would've been admitted to NATO. Russia has bases in Cuba, so what?

Shirley Putin couldn't be taking out nuclear facilities in Ukraine that Soros has making NWO swamp cabal nuclear weapons, right?

Where do you get this stuff from? It must be hell to be sundowning.

Not with nuclear missiles and Bioweapons Labs, unless they were installed under your bud Zeros presidency.

What Russian “bases” in Cuba? Lourdes has been mothballed for ages I believe.

You're correct. I missed the closing.

Anybody who's killing Russians is alright with me. You know, the old "the enemy of my enemy is my friend".

No problem but let Biden keep poking the bear you’ve gotta know that the Cubans would welcome Russia back with open arms.

That's exactly what I use these threads for

I have a lot of Russian friends. No idea why they would be my enemy. Hard working, decent, industrious producers.

FVP!

Are you as corrupt as most Ukrainians?

Why is Russia our enemy? Should an enemy (or friend) be permanent?

The non-stop cheerleading and complete lack of detachment and objectivity in the news channels and pundits over this should cause any clear thinker to step back and wonder why.

The globalists don't like Nationalists. They got rid of Trump, now they need Putin gone.

And people don't see it.

With ICBMs and SSBNs, Cuba isn't needed anymore

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I believe nothing that the MSM reports and even less of what my Government reports to be the truth.

UPhiker is Ukrainian and he is happy to send your sons to battle to defend Ukraine

Jag, you're making too much sense. Gotta laugh at the people who think the Klaus Schwab/Great Reset and Soros deals are just a conspiracy theory. THOSE people are the idiots.

This war is about water. Yes, WATER. Putin threatened Ukraine back in 2017 to start getting their chit together. They haven't budged. Putin is beginning to expose the corruption.

I'll say it again. FUQ UKRAINE.

I never been to Russia but have entertained the thought of visiting.However it is still too cold for my tastes.One thing for sure is that they have a cool non perverted society.They also seem to be honest.

Well, yes, to the low IQ crew, at least until the MSM says otherwise. Dayom but you are slow.

Yep Gruff.... you would think after the covid debacle they would learn.... but nooooo

Agree and thats all im trying to say here

No shît right? Holy fugk we have a large amount of retards on here.

Fuqk Ukraine! I have two sons 17 and 21 and nothing there is worth my boy’s lives. If they can defeat the Russians good for them, if not good for the Russians. It’s not our war!!

Didn't Putin say that he wanted to reunite the former Soviet Socialist Republics under the umbrella of a new Russian Empire? They probably could have stayed close to Russia, like Belarus has, but they chose to be independent when the opportunity came along with collapse of the Soviet Union?

To my way of thinking, what Putin has done in Ukraine is analogous to what Hitler did by annexing Czech Sudetenland in 1938. The British and French let it happen and that just emboldened Hitler to start WW2 in September 1939.

I don't know what the truth is, as all media puts its own spin on the facts, but I doubt that any of you know what is fact and what is spin any more than I do.

If Putin has accomplished anything, he has frightened the European NATO members enough so that they are pledging to spend more money on defense in the event of war with Russia.

I don't think the European governments represent their people.They have fake elections just like the US.That is why it won't be the end of the world if Putin attacks them.

Your thinking is about 75 yrs behind the times..... then again humane nature never really changes.... who knows ? right
I simply don't see our national interest at stake here

I do see the Democrats money laundering scheme is in danger..... so send our kids to fight for it..... think about that war mongers

Except for taking out Zeros and Soros' and Bidet's US BIOWEAPONS LABS and maybe saving our asses from Gates' promised next Plandemic and taking out the NWO cabals next Nuclear weapons facility.

Seems Putin has come to our aid then?

I use to jokingly say that Putin was a world hero but I never thought it would turn out to be so true.

I am not there yet..... Putin did say the West was run by kidfuckers a couple years back though...

Trump is draining the Swamp while on the golf course. Completely uninvolved.

Remember after Trump met Putin w hrs behind closed doors. Came out and Putin gave him the soccer ball with 32 kb of top secret KGB info on traitors in us government and business and said, "Now the ball is in your court".
Then Trump went to NKorea. Next week Kim met with his deadly enemy P Moon of S Korea and they partied all weekend. Next week Moon went to WH and gave Trump the envelope from Kim proving Zero and CYA were sending orders to Kim's dads generals on Eric Schmidts gmail of when to fire the missiles. Trump tweeted that nite he had recieved a very nice letter, letting Schmidt and Zero and Kilery know that he had the proof on their treason.
Next he went to SA where he was invited to the Saudi war dance and given the Saudi war sword to save the world from the cabal and billions from SA to help him do it.

Then to Chyna were Xi gave him a heros welcome and Trump and Melania spent the night in the Forbidden City with Xi and his wife. Ha, wouldn't you like to know what they discussed re taking out the NWO cabal?

So when does Xi move on Tiawan to take out the cabals and Zeros and Soros US deep state NWO Bioweapons labs in Tiawan?

Trump and Moon with envelope with flap forward and down making an M. M means You Got Mail.
Zero had sent Schmidt to NK to set up the email system so Zeros rogue CYA could direct Kims dads generals when to fire missiles.

Kim gave Pres Moon the proof and Moon gave it to Trump who let Zero and Killery know he had the proof they were traitors with his tweet that night.

This 1000%!!

Hey, Gayghost and Sickermore and Twirler and Northmam and WadeinBrown Schiett and JiminTenn approve.

Hey, dont forget the MILITARY/INDUSTRIAL complex needs their skids greased.

Pretty much my thoughts on it too.

This time if they start drafting the girls will probably have to get drafted also. I have 2 daughters, 4 grand daughters, one son and one grandson along with a bunch of nieces and nephews. We are not going to a foreign war. Let the LGBTQ and black soldiers fight this one.

It won't be long before we revive the WW1 sedition act where they throw you in prison for saying you don't understand why we should be fighting over there. Read Eugene V. Debs speech that got him locked away.

It can happen again and the police will be happy to come get you and if you resist, well you know how that ends. Small scale Waco. We are headed down a very bad road and handing the government the knife with which to cut our throat.

This, in spades.

The Democrats started all this crap starting with Clinton..Reagan promised Gorbachev that NATO would not expand 1 inch east of Germany when Gorbachev tore down the wall and allowed Germany to join NATO under the condition that no countries to the East of Germany could be members of NATO. The Democrat Commies in our country, starting with Clinton, did not honor that agreement, and pushed NATO to expand in Europe...I don't blame Russia for starting this war at all for that reason...They can draft all the arseholes that voted Democrat to go fight in Europe if it comes down to it...This is the mess they created, and they should have to clean the crap up..

:: GASPING ::


"Putin is literally, out Hitlering, Hitler!"

Unfortunately, when all is said and done, I suspect Ukraine would have been a lot more “free” if they had agreed a couple weeks ago not to join NATO. And if we were not going to defend them, and I don’t think we should endanger our own troops/people to do so, Pres Brandon should have told Pres Z that very thing.

Instead what we got was essentially, Pres Z saying, “Hold my beer……” and Pres Brandon saying, “I got you, buddy!”

Pres Z will be lucky to be alive in a year and his country will likely be a Russia satellite. We did them a heck of a favor, didn’t we?

They are the definition of retard lol, but yeah, critical thinking, its required LOL ,,I too shake my head at how fugging dumb some people are too the shyte we are to believe.

I agree 100%. This news is coming from the same people who were pushing forced Covid vaccines, mask mandates, etc, etc. for the past two years. But suddenly we need to take their word at face value and fall in line to support another war because it is the evil Russkies and we are all patriots!!! Use your frickin heads, people.

Fuel is probably cheaper in Ukraine than it is on this Continent.

I’ll wager most that are pounding the war drum in support the the incredibly corrupt Ukrainian gov that laundered money for the evil cabal we have here are the same folks that masked up and got shots + boosters and said “it’s for our own protection”. They swallow any lie fed to them by the msm and the pretend non-msm pundits.

I feel for the general population over there, but not enough to meddle in their affairs.

I honestly laughed out loud when one of our brightest, shiniest minds on here said to “take the politics out of it”. Literally.

You're wrong. I live in Romania. Around 60,000 have fled here to Romania, so far and between Romania. Hungary, Slovacia and Poland, approximately 1,600,000. You know nothing, I have seen it with my own eyes. You don't know what you are talking about. RJ

I'm guessing Soros and Hunter are in a bind.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-administration-seeks-10-billion-for-ukraine-aid-11646317116

This is just Putin getting rid of the people Biden and hunter have been doing deals with. All part of there plan. When it’s done Putin gets the country and Biden never gets investigated

They would have never been exposed regardless. I’m ok with them meeting Their maker at the end of a Russian bayonet/bullet/bomb. It’s the only justice on earth theyd have seen
Anyway

Please explain to me why/how my thinking is about 75 years behind the times.

The U.S. is part of NATO and wherever NATO goes, so goes the U.S. The inclusion of U.S. military/industrial power was the deciding factor in two World Wars that started in Europe, so Europe's security interests are our security interests too.

Enough is enough.Something has to be done about the people ruling the west.They have taken our rights away and been looting their countries for years.They are turning the west into a new soviet union.With the help of Russia and freedom loving people everywhere we can fight this war.It doesn't matter if it is Russia or any other country leading the attack.

if ya got 30 min or so, watch this
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take a good listen to what this proklita zhidovka says at 1:45 to 2:05 in the video, go back and listen to that as many times as you need to ....

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Yup.

Once it starts raining money everybody sticks their hand out.

The Russians have gained control of the power plant and no reactors were damaged.

Putin has shutdown all western media and social media. He’s invoked a 15 year prison sentence for spreading fake news.

We are being offered a choice of 2 sandwiches of which both are filled with [bleep].

https://www.blockchance.eu/trump-pu...global-blockchain-based-currency-system/
https://nicksintel.wordpress.com/2022/01/31/01-31-2022-banking-changes/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/U7wAdvOUtH0f/



Trump, Putin and Jinping together stand for a global Blockchain based Currency System
by BLOCKCHANCE Media Team | Apr 1, 2020 | News | 0 comments

April 1st 2020 — in the middle of the Corona crisis Donald Trump, Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping, state leaders of USA, Russia and China, surprisingly decided to join forces in a conference call this morning to develop a new blockchain technology based world monetary system backed by gold.

“We are facing the biggest global economic challenge that mankind has ever had to face. Only by acting globally can we prevent humanity from sliding into an unstoppable downward spiral”, said Donald Trump


Donald Trump, Xi Jinping
Under the leadership of Trump, the leaders of the USA, Russia and China have unexpectedly come together to talk about the launch of a new digital and decentralized monetary system for the world. Talks are already underway with the EU, Japan, South Korea and some other states.

“We hope to end up with the broadest and most global alliance possible, which would be the first time that all the people of the world would pull together. A new chapter in human history is beginning today.” said Xi Jinping

The new world economic system and the currency associated with it is to use the blockchain technology, which is also the foundation of the well known crypto currencies Bitcoin and Ethereum, for example. Instead of central banks, algorithms determine the global money supply. Unlike classic crypto currencies and the paper fiat money we use today, the new currency will be 100% backed by gold, free of state intervention and absolutely safe from falsification. A new era is dawning for mankind.


Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin work together hand in hand to save global economic system
To make the track for the new world currency, the currently privately organized central banks, will be de-privatized. The new currency will be published free of bureaucracy as an open source public blockchain.

“We want to restore confidence in values and social order. The world community and especially our children deserve a better future. The dysfunctional central banking system has had its day,” said Vladimir Putin.


Prof. Dr. Tomas Heidelberg, well known international monetary expert, confirms that the plan could work out and possibly is the only way to slow down the global corona triggered recession and avert the economic depression that is coming.

“For several hundred years our financial system has functioned mediocrely. It has been programmed to experience economic crashes on a regular basis. There was a constant redistribution from the bottom to the top. It’s a bold and necessary step that many economists have been waiting for for a long time.

The world is changing and we are only at the beginning of a long and exciting process of change. To see crises and challenges as opportunities is probably an art of living that is now being rediscovered.

I’ll comment , though most want to ignore the report directly observed. Putin is a monster, there is absolutely no doubt with undeniable evidence for those that are willing to do their research. Thank you for giving us perspective from a first person view.
I do agree with the sentiment that it’s hard to believe the media because of all the disinformation we’ve been fed for years but that doesn’t mean all they report isn’t at least partially true. I’ve been skeptical myself but have done some research and see we can’t side with Russia here. Unless we want to join the ranks of Syria, Venezuela and North Korea.

Zelensky survives 3 assassination attempts in 1 week.

Yeah, we need to take Putin out and elect Kilery so Klaus Schwab and the NWOs WEF can take over to "take care" of us.

Surely Bidet and the MSM cant lie to us every time.

HE said there was NO truth in a liar

Kilery would rather lie on credit than tell the truth for cash.

Putin doesn't need to destroy Obama's and Soros' Bioweapons labs in Ukraine. We need those to produce Bill's next Plandemic to save the world from overpopulation.

also hear what that Khazarian yid cu nty says at 2:25 -2;35 , pretty clear what she means is all the propaganda that we see on the msm news and social media ....

and it's working .... I see masses of asses fooled on social media with all the sudden "HERO" Ukranians fighting the good fight against the evil Russian invaders .... how can people actually believe such stupid sh it ? it's insane

First of all, I don't give a flying or running f/k about the Russian Federation.... but in this case ... more power to them for a surgical strike in decapitating this .gov head under the beast

like the thread title states .... DITTO !

For sure.

Swamp, some have been brainwashed all their life to fear Russians more than satan and death and they are too old to learn sometimes things change. The see their lifes fears rather than reality.

Who told you this?

CNN

Same guys told us the jab would stop COVID-19 and Hydroxychloroquine and the horse wormer didnt work and would kill us. Same guys told us WHO and CDC and FDA are good and Trump and Putin are bad.

I have inside connections with the cia and they want to remain anon like Que, you see . Don’t spread this around, please.


Newsweek.
Checkout Apple News. Pops up on the phone.

For Jag, This coat of arms was suspended during The communist reign

ruh roh

Locals in the Dombass Region

youcrane live feeds

Please explain to me why the USA needs to be a part of NATO. It drags us into Europe's fiascos.

Please explain to me how the world benefitted from the USA entering WW1 which was winding down on its own. Please explain how the USA injecting itself into WW1 did not cause WW2 the worst tragedy the human race has ever seen. I'll give you a hint about the problem you will have justifying our meddling. It left over half the world dominated by communism and the two world wars have left us completely bankrupt. We should have no quarrel with Russia.

Eventually, much of Western Europe will be forced to minimize its connection to America because of the hardships that America's aggression against Russia has caused to Western Europe.

America is forcing the EU to go its own way. The EU needs to buy reasonably priced energy from Russia. America needs to buy raw materials and energy from Russia.

GloboHomo has driven a wedge between natural trading partners and is attempting to escalate another fratricidal war in between Russia and Eastern Europe,...and maybe Western Europe as well. But I doubt it. Western European nations know that they need trade with Russia more than they need whatever it is that the current America can provide.

Among other things, GloboHomo is a death cult. It's making Russia and China stronger and isolating America from its traditional allies.

FIXT

Some people cant comprehend that not only the UN but now NATO are controlled by the deep state Bolsheviks and have never done anything but drag us down.

Ashkenazi Jews (false Jews, Soros, Rockefeller, Rothschild, Bilderbergs...owners of our Federal Reserve and Central Banks).

Couldnt agree more
Yup
Exactly. These dumbasses have conpletely been sucked right back into the lie machine that is the media dn elites. Its crazy how dumb some people are and how short memories are

Our “government” has been lying to us about everything Covid and pretty much everything else. How are we supposed to believer anything we’re being told about Ukraine…

Right

I just watched Oliver Stone's documentaries on Ukraine. The underdog is looking to be Russia.

It is hard to be sure about anything anymore considering our current and past media leftist alliance. I do know that Russia currently is not the same nation that Marx, Trotsky, Lennin and Stalin birthed. I do know that Europe has a history of destruction and has been at war since the Romans were there. I know that Ukraine has a history of deep corruption, and their Eastern Russian leaning contingent has been at war with the Western part for a very long time. Atrocities' have been committed both ways. I know that democrats under Hillary, Obama and Biden were corrupt and attacked Libya and they have a history of Nation Building and corruption that is unparalleled. Biden himself has been involved in Ukranian corruption. I know that Bush attacked Afghanistan and Iran with no plan to manage the aftermath. He did more to destabilize the middle east than anyone else in our history. Obama actually gave Iran the green light to build Nukes to attack us with.

Our own CIA is corrupt as are all our agencies. They are not what they were commissioned to be. They have evolved into a Gestapo like organizations that on occasion attack our citizens and commit crimes against morality and the Constitution. Our ATF is not the organization it was commissioned to be. It has evolved into just another wing of the democrat SS that attacks our citizens. Look at their history. Ask any FFL that has had a visit from them especially recently.

I do not know Putin and I cannot say he is a good person, but I can say the same about Zelensky. I know for a fact that NATO is corrupt and led by people that do not support America. We have funded their lunacy long enough. We are in a delicate spot with a corrupt mentally incompetent lunatic in charge. He has a pretend vice president that cannot spell diplomacy or even manage her former job of DA. Look at her record. Look at our current congress and tell me just what they have done for our Nation and how it pertains to our Constitution. I'm talking about both parties here.

We have huge problems here at home and do not need to get involved in world affairs that do not concern us. We have our own demons to fight and we had better get started before it's too late.

And Putin is shutting down media, blocking social media, and is contemplating the Russian equivalent of martial law. He's attacked a sovereign nation, which he previously guaranteed the security of. Yet there are people here singing his praise?

"All it takes for evil to thrive in the world is for good men to do nothing."

Ukraine isn't a utopia and corruption is well-documented. But the citizens don't deserve this kind of treatment by Putin. [bleep] Biden. [bleep] Putin. And [bleep] anybody that supports either one of them.

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we should be supporting russia with troops. the two of us could tear NATo a enw ass then go after China. Russia would make a far better ally to us than England and France

By supporting the current regime in Ukraine you support Biden/Romney/pelosi/Obama et al. How do you not see that?

Do you know how many people over the last two months have submitted their temporary residence applications? As in, planning to stay over 90 days?
Do you know how many people on average cross your borders daily? Weekly? Monthly? Yearly?
There are various agencies monitoring these numbers all the time.



Enjoy your retirement. Stay safe.

https://americanmilitarynews.com/2022/02/us-soldier-dies-in-syria/

"The U.S. military currently maintains about 900 U.S. troops in Syria"

Jeez.

What a plan.

That’s an interesting take on things.

Great post. Thanks.

Being against Russia doesn't mean I support Biden. Evil is evil. Period.

#1, why the hell would we support Russia with troops?

#2, why the hell would Russia need our troops?

#3, China is a strategic partner for Putin. Why would Russia go after China?

Sleepy Joe is working on that non-cutting cancer cure. He said he'd do it. It's coming soon.....yeah right.
Let's Go Brandon!

Shaking head here.

And Biden is telling private companies to censor the view of Americans, to block them from expressing themselves, Washington DC, looks like an armed camp, political prisoners have been in jail in horrid conditions for more than a year, and no country has in the last forty years invaded more sovereign nations and killed more innocent civilians than the United States has.

The irony, or maybe the fact that so many fail to realize it, is amazing. I watched some news go on the other day about how bad the Russia s were because they had shot up a car at a checkpoint and killed an innocent family. Fuq, that was a daily occurrence for years in Iraq.

It's a web so tangled that they weave they don't understand it themselves.
Lots of good men here that have just lost their way.

Let me follow your logic here, Biden asking private companies to do something they shouldn't means we should support Putin? This logic doesn't hold water.

The logic is THAT your government has done IS DOING things that are just as bad and worse than what Putin may or may not be doing you stupid Fuq.

“Should?”

Lol

Iv’e disagreed and probably will continue to do so with JoeBob on here. But holy fûck. What you are advocating for here is unconscionable.

Nice to see you're diplomatic. Your reading comprehension sucks.

I'll spell it out easy for you. Two wrongs don't make a right. Nowhere did I say or imply the American government was squeaky clean. Why should we, American citizens SUPPORT PUTIN?

You're logic is worse than my toddlers'.

WHAT!!!!!!!! You can't be serious. Private companies should be censoring the view of Americans!!!! Are you kidding! What the f**cking socialistic side are you playing on?
The 1st Amendment guarantee's freedom of speech.............................PERIOD! There is no clause in there saying that sure, we have freedom of speech unless someone doesn't like what we are saying and that includes private companies doing business with the PUBLIC! F**CK, I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU SAID THAT PUBLICALLY!!!!
Dude, you are an idiot or just plane ol' ignorant of our freedoms.

What did I advocate for?

It was an autocorrect. You knew what I meant. Sometimes typing on a phone you don't catch changes it makes. Calm down. It was corrected before you even finished typing your ignorant tirade.


By the way, the first amendment doesn't guarantee you the freedom of speech. It states that government won't abridge freedom of speech. Private companies with private platforms can do whatever they see fit. You do not have a right to use their servers.

Biden asking private companies to do something they should

That is to which I referred

That was an autocorrect which was fixed as soon as I saw it. Additionally, that had nothing to do with the context of the conversation. Biden being a wannabe dictator doesn't mean that Putin should be supported.

1.4 million left so far. They have even arrived in the US. I know for a fact they have arrived in Buffalo NY

Really? What did you correct.
No guarantee of the freedom of speech? What do you think the word "abridging" means????
Let me help you out.


https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/abridge

https://www.britannica.com/dictionary/abridge

Private companies, while they are doing it, have no right to curtail speech if they are doing business with the public. If they are offering servers to the public then we have the right to use them.

Are all of them KNOWN Ukraine citizens?
Hmmmm.......

Do you know how many people on average travel to and leave Ukraine on a weekly, monthly and yearly basis?
How many of these folks actually held citizenship?

Fair enough. I’d made a few typos myself.

Saying Ukraine being cornholed isn’t my problem or that my taxes shouldn’t be directed to support the billions already sent there doesn’t mean I support Putin

You really are stupid, aren't you?

For instance, if the owner of this website doesn't like what you say, he can block you without legal ramifications. The first amendment states:


"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."


Please, how is a private company not allowing you a platform somehow "CONGRESS MAKING A LAW abridging the freedom of speech".


You really suck and reading.

Each schidt douche bag.....

like we have a shortage of leftist douche bags, even here on the campfire...

Nah, not you, but there were guys making the statement we should be supporting Putin before I responded to this thread. I was calling them out on it.

No one has a right to control something the public needs -gas,food,communications,etc...in such ways that serve entirely their own personal interests.

👍🏻

I'm not sure identifying the Russians as Marxists is all that useful anymore, especially as a way to describe what might underpin their contemporary motives.

Great read.

You want that provided or guaranteed by the .gov and to depend on them?

All that plus healthcare and other commodities and services is privately owned and is up to the owner's decisions as to how much to provide and when.

So you're a socialist?

More than great. HUGE!

actually a private company has no obligation under the first amendment to guarantee free speech.

The First Amendment only protects your speech from government censorship. It applies to federal, state, and local government actors. This is a broad category that includes not only lawmakers and elected officials, but also public schools and universities, courts, and police officers. It does not include private citizens, businesses, and organizations. This means that:

A private school can suspend students for criticizing a school policy;
A private business can fire an employee for expressing political views on the job; and
A private media company can refuse to publish or broadcast opinions it disagrees with.

there are some grey areas - such as social media censoring a politician and your right to access this speech but at the end of the day, they are still a private entity who owns their platform.

Well said!

And how does it justify users' support for Putin in this conflict?

Look at the percentage of Ukrainian voters who did not want the government they got in 2014.

On what basis did you come to determine that Russia is your enemy? Not to imply, if they're not ones enemy, they must then be their ally.

^^^^This^^^^

For sure.

Very good read. Some in here need to check it out amd learn a little about what they are siding with. Ukraines gov can eat [bleep]

Just yesterday, Bill Clinton announced that he's firing up the Clinton Foundation again.

They were tired of the Nazi World Order cabal Zero and Soros and Biden saddled them with and who were stealing all the US foreign aid money sent to help the poor folks develop businesses.

Clue: Ukraine was Kilerys biggest Clinton Foundation donor.

The value of NATO seems self-evident, no war in Europe involving NATO members.

There are many factors that led to WW2, but the crushing terms of the treaty of Versailles led to the rise of Hitler. U.S. President, Democrat Woodrow Wilson, tried to modify the treaty with his 14 Points plan, but only partially succeeded. Anytime there are major changes, there are almost always unintended/unforeseen consequences. As they say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

The only good thing that Russia ever did for the U.S. was to sell us Alaska. Imperial Russia was an oppresive monarchy before the 1917 Revolution. The USSR was an oppressive communist dictatorship until it imploded. If Putin wants to recreate the borders of the former USSR, he is going to face some push back from some of the now independent republics.

WTM45, I'm not sure I understand what you're saying isn't true?

It wasnt supposed to happen like this. Hillary was supposed to win.

The Wiards and Warlocks prevented that. Trump has it all, IOW, he knew about the crap going on in Ukraine and with Soros and Bidet and the Nazi WO. So did Putin, about the Bioweapons being developed to take Russia out.. Putin hates the Nazi WO Bolsheviks. Hes a nationalist, like Trump.

He wanted to take them out. Trump told him to wait until he was out of the WH to do it or Trump would take out Putins beautiful gold domed buildings.

Trump is crashing the economy under Bidet. Trump is destroying the DNC. Putin is destroying the cabal in Ukraine.

Btw, Soros is going down. Q said they have crosshairs on him. I guess Soros believes Q. Hes sure getting nervous. He had planned on NATO to step in and save him and destroy Putin. Flimsey wants that too. It's not happening.

As Q said, Nothing can stop what is coming.

As Q said, Patriots are in control.

It's a heck of a movie.

On the contrary.You on the other hand are-supporting the idea that a private business has the right to monopolize an entire industry or even an economy.

Over the last decade we've seen the almost absolute convergence of GloboHomo and the Neocons. It's their plotting that the world suffers under. The factors contributing to this alignment are the history we're living.

Many argue that Putin is trying to save Ukraine. They cite his slow and measured advance and his not destroying critical infrastructure as evidence and that he intends to swaddle the inflamed Ukraine.

Are the people who are "leaving" right now truly Ukrainian citizen "refugees?" One has to look at the daily, weekly, monthly and yearly numbers of those who are visiting or are simply transitory. The regs are lax on visa requirements for neighboring nation citizens. Since 2014, look at the total numbers of immigrants as well as emigrants.

There has to be a complete big picture understanding of how Ukraine currently establishes citizenship, how many people are considered citizens and if these people who are leaving are simply going back to their real country of citizenship.

Your position would be well served by posts that could stand on their own as complete thoughts. One has no idea what you're trying to say with these rhetorical gasps.

You have to do a little bit of research yourself. Nothing I post is "rhetorical" as it is easily found through investigation.

Or, you just have your opinion already formed.

Prompts people to research for themselves, rather than rely on opinion.

Thank you.

I'd like to see rj308's response to your position now.

An objective assessment of the current state and form of Russian society would be very useful to these conversations. If anyone can point me to a few credible analyses, I'd be grateful.

Don't mistake my criticism of the form of your argument as a personal attack. I think you have a valuable perspective, but can't see it unless you state it in such a way as one doesn't need to fill in the blanks.

I'm amazed at all the experts (aka conspiracy theorists) that we have on here.

The David Stockman piece linked above is a great start of an investigation to the facts.
It's not hard to find more regarding how this situation is being portrayed by big media, and who is behind the major players.

Russia today is not the USSR of our parent's and grandparent's era. Would take more than a semester of university level study and research to understand the changes fully.

First of all, anti-trust is a socialist construct.

Second of all, you've provided no compelling argument that you have a right to others' platform.

IIRC the US companies colluded to block Trump and the other conservatives from speaking to the folks while operating under laws protecting them from liability as news agencies while they became leftists advertisers.

Hate to tell some of you this but COLLUDING with foreigners to destroy a POTUS OR to overthrow a Federal Election is Subversion and in a time of declared war and declared State of National Emergency, treason.

(That's why Q said they are going down. Glad bought short positions in that and FB and Twitter. Also bought shorts in Pharma and Banks and bought mining stocks.)

This is why Trump declared the US to be in a State of Emergency every year. He also reiterated the punishment for people or groups of people who do such while conspiring with foreign agents can have their assets seized by the govt. Trump also reminded them in a statement saying the same in the spring of 2017. The MSM chose to ignore him, being owned by the Bolsheviks, who thought their plan to destroy Trump would prevail. They were wrong.

(I expect FB and Twitter to go under or be converted into public utilities as Q predicted.)

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And those people making such arguments are useful idiots who are the product of Russian propaganda. I'm sure threatening to NUKE Finland and Sweden is also to "save" them. Putin doesn't want to destroy all infrastructure because he can't afford (financially or politically) to replace it when he accomplishes his ultimate goal of governing, by direct rule or by proxy, the country.

No it is not.You don't understand the capitalist system.

I take it you've not read much Adam Smith.

I’ve spent practically my entire adult life training, or training other aviators, to go up against the forces of the “Great Bear.” Meaning the government and its military. There’s no effin way I’m going to support any Russian or Chinese aggression, in any way or form. No way.

The Ukraine government and hierarchy are no more corrupt than our own government and politicians but that doesn’t mean the entire populace of either country is corrupt. All the mothers and babies, grandmas and grandpas fleeing for their lives aren’t part of any corruption that has been associated with Ukraine. They’re like the rest of us….minding their own business, just wanting to be left alone and living their lives the way they want. They don’t deserve what Putin is inflicting on them.

Putin’s indiscriminate rocket attacks and bombardment of rows of apartment buildings and other purely civilian areas are aimed at infrastructure, probably in an attempt to make the areas east of Kiev unlivable and drive out all the Ukraines and reclaim those areas with Russians. Most of the fighting is going on east of Kiev and the Dnieper River it looks like, at least for now, that’s what Putin is trying to annex.

A “no fly zone” is probably not in the cards, at least as we think of it. Early on, giving Ukraine some Soviet block aircraft from some of the NATO countries was discussed but that was squashed. There have been a couple of clips of Russian aircraft being shot down this morning so maybe the Stingers are making their way to the battlefield.

Putin has also figured out the magic bullet when dealing with the West. When he reminded the world that he has nukes, everyone went “whoa” this could start a nuclear war. It’s not as if Putin just got the damn things. Just like us, he’s had them for decades but all he had to do was bring it up in conversation and it’s, “time out” let’s think this over for a few weeks.

He now knows what he has to do if the West gets involved or tightens the screws too much. “Don’t forget, I have nukes”.

I guess CNN decided they better not ignore Putin as they did Trump and decided if they couldnt spread their lying BS there as they have so far gotten away with here, they best pull stakes and haul ass. Tff.



I expect this guy is more truthful than our MSM

We know who the idiot is here, Twirler.

Putin will destroy the puppet government. Russia has demonstrated their ability to crush holdouts.
The cry for UN support by Kyiv may go unanswered, as a major escalation would result.
Putin has not pressed the accelerator yet.

Watch the oil markets. Russia is making bank due to Biden's moves here in the US.
Sanctions?

https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-oil-gas-revenue-windfall-2022-01-21/

I live a life and form opinions based on my experience not one that searches answers through interpretations of others.

As a country we’ve walked around the earth slapping our dicks in the faces of everyone we pleased and daring them to do something about it. We’ve bombed who we liked, invaded when we liked. We’ve killed countless civilians and caused infinite heartache and pain in places like Serbia and Iraq. How anyone could cheer for us and condemn Putin is mind boggling.

For my part, Putin is already more justified in what he is doing than anything we’ve done in my lifetime. Ukraine is on his border, in his backyard. By that fact alone, he is potentially as justified as we would be if we decided to clean out the cartels in Mexico. I hope he kills every damned criminal in that government, Fuq it. I just don’t care and the more that certain people over here bleat about it, the more certain I am that he is in the right because these people bleating about are spiritually incapable of being on the side of right and truth.

You took your lips off Q's cock and that's all you had to say? I guess you wanted to get right back to it.

I can accept that.

And I see the propaganda worked on you.

That’s the best you’ve got. How about an explanation of why we are morally superior to Putin?

First, tell me how the US being wrong in the past justifies Putin's actions?

It doesn’t necessarily, but at least he didn’t go halfway around the world. There is a moral superiority in eliminating an immediate threat to slapping your dick in someone’s face 4,000 miles away.

In what way did Ukraine threaten Russia? Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014!

The Us backed NATO expansion and that is a direct threat to Russia

Its not a direct threat to Russia. That's a copout. Try again.

I know that you're replying to someone else, but your post reminded me (and this is not directed at you or anyone in particular) that what's important is that one challenge, evaluate, and test their own opinions before all others.

So Russia doesn’t get to judge for itself the severity of a threat? That’s a power reserved exclusively for us?

Existence doesn't equal threat. Or I could say you being alive is a threat to me, and I could end the threat without repercussion. Or Osama bin Laden could have stated America was a threat and we shouldn't have retaliated. Or we could justify going to war with Putin because we judged he's a threat.

No, the world doesn't work that way, buttercup.

This is known as the Dunning-Kruger effect.

https://www.verywellmind.com/an-overview-of-the-dunning-kruger-effect-4160740

I just wish I could be as articulate as you. You said what I think almost exactly.

The world is nuanced. Taking an opinion that denies such is of little merit and limited utility. Your responses suggest that you either lack an adequate understanding of the recent and ancient historical context that is Ukraine or simply deny it. Either that and/or you have a considerable bias that you've failed to openly acknowledge.

Welcome back to the conspiracyfire.

Quite the contrary. Please, share what what credible threats against Russia Ukraine has made.

They're flush coming out of 2021.

IRFUBAR mentioned that Russia was stockpiling gold reserves.

It seems their actual position might be a bit murky.

https://edwardslavsquat.substack.com/p/russias-gold-reserves-the-good-the?s=r

I must just be skipping over whoever he's talking about.

Did you mean to say that Bush attacked Afghanistan and Iraq, not Afghanistan and Iran?

I was against the Iraq invasion as I didn't see Iraq as being a clear and present danger to the U.S. I thought that we invaded Iraq as a preemptive move to protect Isreal, since we seem to do whatever Isreal wants us to do in sort of a tail wagging the dog scenario.

Was open knowledge around 2018 they had purchased and built up a larger gold reserve than China.
Seems their debt was less than their GDP recently. Enough so that they only owe apx. 1 months salary per capita all workers.
Now, the imposed sanctions might cause a default of their debt bond payments.

Will this be where Bitcoin gets crushed?

It is quite a fluid scenario being played out before us.

Allowing the US and nato to install weapons there among many other things that a quick internet search could answer for you

This place is full of bonified genius

For the last two years you showed your healthcare and micro biology skills and today you are foriegn affairs and military experts....

And? Those nations aren't allowed to defend themselves? I suppose by that token Ukraine should have attacked Russia years ago. Hell, the US should attack Russia now because they have "weapons".

Bullshit logic is bullshit.

I understand what youre saying, but like i mentioned before. Would we be right in going to war with mexico if they allowed russia to enter their country and install weapons and protection systems? Would it matter that if all our enemies were running money through mexico and financing mexicos build up?

Im pretty sure you know the answer but you habe yourself painted into such a corner you refuse to see it any other way

No, not at all! That's looney talk. And why would it have to be Mexico? Why don't we attack Russia now? They are 20 miles away from us as it is. They are armed to the teeth.

Did't realize there were so many [bleep] morons on this site. Replace morons with cowards if it fits.

The truth is none and I mean none of us know the truth.... we can speculate.
I made my speculation, others that like to criticize should make theirs and we can have a discussion.
Or we can just accuse everyone of being conspiracy theorist and dumbfucks.... that talk adds nothing and in my view is simply virtue signaling.

Your assertion means nothing unless you elaborate.... that may require too much though?

I suspect it is a threat and Putin has expressed his concern also..... but of course you know better
Maybe you could explain your stance?

if operation barbarasso was strictly russians vs germans who would you root for?

Perhaps Putin is the threat to those around him, rather than invade they merely armed themselves. Putin doesn't get to dictate what sovereign nations do.

Ok fair enough..... but what if they are acting as a proxy for an arch enemy?

Hey Tyler, do you know that John Kirby dude? He's not very impressive

Cuban missile crisis?

No he isn't. Any rear admiral, heavy on the rear, that takes such a position from Joe probably isn't our friend.

Agreed.

I read your assessment. Thank you for writing it.

There's certainly plenty of support for the outcomes you describe. The optimist in me hopes it doesn't come to that. We'd be fools to lose the dollar as the global fiat currency. If the US doesn't start playing a longer game, we run the risk of getting crushed over the long run.

Thanks Kingston, writing those things is like making predictions... risky, with no upside....I like to live a little dangerous though....

Losing the petro dollar may not be up to us.... just sayin

I suspect it is a threat and Putin has expressed his concern also..... but of course you know better
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Existential threats are threats nonetheless.

Tylerw02 can't seem to get beyond dancing around the details.

Yeah, I am trying to understand Tyler's logic and am having a hard time.

Shell Oil just announced putting all of their Russian Oil trade profits into a Ukrainian Relief Fund.

Shell has pulled out of their Russian ventures.

So, carrying your opinion further, if I own a company that has a patent on a mRNA/DNA therapy product and you use it, I then own your mRNA/DNA based on my private company offering a patented product that you and the public chose to use. Your right to your mRNA/DNA is now no longer valid, I can control them.
This scenario can bleed right over into the air waves i.e. wireless platforms/servers. If I own those platform/servers, I can stop you from alerting the public over some kind of false news at my leisure. I would call that censuring free speech. While I may own the platform/server, the air waves my platform/servers are broadcasting on are public domain.

That's some high level virtue signaling right there....

This has been one of the better discussions.

Just remember, Rasputín did not murder so easily.

It does by the standards the United States has established.

What a kick in the dick that announcement was. I should have liquidated my position @$57.

When the barbarians are at the gate is it wrong to go on the offensive? or do you wait until the bust through the gate? Hmmmmm
A say sling arrows from the castle walls....

Big countries decide what their interests are, act accordingly, and dare someone to do something about it if it hair lips them. That’s what we’ve done forever. It’s what we did with trying to turn Ukraine into a protectorate. Russia decided to do something about it. Don’t blame them a bit.

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Apples, meet oranges.

Its rather obvious you don't know because your reading comprehension sucks. Did you not read what the first amendment states?

Also your "example" is bullshit bonkers tinfoil stuff.

Ukrainians are barbarians at Russia's gate?

Folks here may as well migrate to Russia. They are deep in the Q.

For some reason it's hard for some people to step into another persons shoes and even try to understand why they do what they do. I'm pretty sure Sun Tzu said something about knowing yourself and knowing your enemy

Personally I think TylerW02 comes across as a bit of libertarian and is applying the Non Aggression Principle. He can correct me if I'm wrong.

If so he needs to try thinking like a Russian with a country to secure from threats either now or in the future.