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How so?

We never paid the interest on the cost so now our WW2 debt is $$trillions of our overall debt.

Over half the world population was left under communist domination.

How was the result of WW2 a "good thing"?

You believe Hitler and his Nationalist Socialist Party ruling Europe would have been better for the United States? How so? What indication do you have that Hitler would have left us alone despite having already declared war on the US?

Jeeezus, I didn't know there were so many commie loving sheeples here that would happily spew Putin's crap. Patton was right, should have taken them out when we could have.

You're nervous because you are one of those neonazis.

You'll soon find out who the real idiots are. Even Q knew, "You people are stupid (and sick)"

Putin and Xi became our ally. Both attacked by the NWO Globalists.











Like Trump said, "My Turn".

You're probably right. Between communist propaganda and Q propaganda, people around here are nothing but lemmings.

I try not to argue with idiots, but sometimes I get a little deep into my cups and indulge. Like going to the titty bar. Waste of time, but sure is fun.

My last comment to you is nothing about this conflict is simple. You may think I conflated topics by bringing up the jab, but I didn’t. It’s just inconvenient for you and you either lack the cognitive ability, are too vain and shallow to admit error, or are legit nwo deep state supportive.

Maybe get on Google and research the fall of the SOVIETS along with the fall of, get this, the Fall of the USSR. That's United Soviet Socialist Republic for you CNN viewers.

Your buds in the DNC turned against Russia when they quit being Communists. If Gorbachev were still in charge, your dimocommies would still be sucking up to him, just as they did Castro, Chavez and Daniel Ortega.

You are circumventing the subject. There is a point of discussion here which I am trying to get you to engage.

Were you a vocal opposition to the US stance and actions towards Iraq on 9/11? Or, was your own doctrine of war/position changed to its current stance through retrospection?

tylerw02,

I didn't read the 57 or so pages of this thread, but it's just so funny and ironic how some people get so wrapped up in this and conflate so many issues at once that they begin to sound like Jane Fonda.

Russia didn’t completely quit being commies. They are just commie light instead.

A good student comes to class prepared. A+

You stop arguing with yourself?

Unfortunately, your desire to talk about "the jab" doesn't have anything to do with the topic, but if you'd like to discuss it, start a thread and maybe you'll get the conversation you're seeking.

Sure conflict can be complicated, but what you don't seem to understand is that no matter how "complicated" you think it is...well, maybe it is a little more complicated for YOUR simple mind to understand, is that Ukraine is a sovereign nation that hasn't invaded Russia nor presented any indication that they would attack them. Yet we're supposed to pretend that Putin is justified in your mind. Rather than respectfully disagree, you resort to more conflations and personal attacks.

Simple truth here:

PUTIN doesn't have a legal or moral right to invade Ukraine.

He does not need one. No one has the authority to tell him he is wrong either.
Can you grasp that?
Can you be open minded to the fact he gathers his intel and makes his moves based on what he thinks is right for his country, not you. Or me.
Of course, I can respect your stance that he may be breaking your personal stance on international relations.

What you don't seem to understand is that this is a different topic. If you would like to discuss that topic, make a thread about it and we can talk about US history from 2003. We can talk all about sanctions placed on Iraq after their invasion of Kuwait, the treaty they mutually signed with the US (and other nations), and whether breaking the terms of the treaty justified invasion. It can be discussed to your heart's desire.

But you see, that is an apples to oranges comparison and not the "gotcha" moment you're looking for. We are sticking to the topic here. The past has no bearing on the fact that Putin's actions are wrong.

But to believe people here, economic sanctions are "declaring war" against Putin as if he's entitled to our and others' international trade. Putin is entitled to those that see his actions as morally wrong to stand aside and not financially or militarily support Ukraine.

What you dont understand:

I have not read this entire discussion, but if you want to see the reason for this operation and the reason for much of the New World Order bs, search the history of the Khazarian Mafia. It explains a lot about why certain players in this world are pushing back on the evil pedophile elitists. All the bs arguments in the world mean nothing, if you do not understand what is at work here on the global stage.

Ukraine is a corrupt sewage dump, that is run by Nazi and One World Order evil. Russia has been blowing up bio labs that he told Zelinsky to get rid of a long time ago. Ask yourself why a relatively new leader has amassed over two BILLION in personal worth just since "leading" Ukraine. There is going to be collateral damage, as there is in any conflict. Do not let that sway the reality of the situation. You had better hope that Putin attains his goals and the west stays out of it, or the NWO has won.

Believe nothing that you see in the media.

Ah and there it is. The insult from a simple minded.

Carry on you’re doing really well.

No it is not separate.
It is all international relations, and if you are unwilling to look in a mirror to discuss US policy, past and present, then you can not provide your basis for an argument regarding a sovereign nation's right to peace in your own interpretation.



A nation can walk around talking about their black belt training and their good buddies who "got their six." They can display a fake persona of peace and prosperity while conducting business in a manner that upsets everyone around them. It does nothing to prevent that nation next door from stepping up, throwing out a jab which breaks their nose and renders them unconscious if the timing is right.
Will that attacker take them hostage and make them a slave forever? That is the unknown.

Let me think on this. I know and you know the "peace" after WW2 left most of Europe and Asia in communist domination for decades.

And we both know that neither Japan nor Germany would have attempted a trans ocean invasion of our country.

I'll get back to you later. Too busy right now to articulate what I perceive the fallacy of advantage to the USA in our European adventures.