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Im pretty sure you know the answer but you habe yourself painted into such a corner you refuse to see it any other way
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I understand what youre saying, but like i mentioned before. Would we be right in going to war with mexico if they allowed russia to enter their country and install weapons and protection systems? Would it matter that if all our enemies were running money through mexico and financing mexicos build up?
No, not at all! That's looney talk. And why would it have to be Mexico? Why don't we attack Russia now? They are 20 miles away from us as it is. They are armed to the teeth.
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Did't realize there were so many [bleep] morons on this site. Replace morons with cowards if it fits.
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The truth is none and I mean none of us know the truth.... we can speculate. I made my speculation, others that like to criticize should make theirs and we can have a discussion. Or we can just accuse everyone of being conspiracy theorist and dumbfucks.... that talk adds nothing and in my view is simply virtue signaling.
Originally Posted by Judman
PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Did't realize there were so many [bleep] morons on this site. Replace morons with cowards if it fits. Your assertion means nothing unless you elaborate.... that may require too much though?
Originally Posted by Judman
PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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As a country we’ve walked around the earth slapping our dicks in the faces of everyone we pleased and daring them to do something about it. We’ve bombed who we liked, invaded when we liked. We’ve killed countless civilians and caused infinite heartache and pain in places like Serbia and Iraq. How anyone could cheer for us and condemn Putin is mind boggling.
For my part, Putin is already more justified in what he is doing than anything we’ve done in my lifetime. Ukraine is on his border, in his backyard. By that fact alone, he is potentially as justified as we would be if we decided to clean out the cartels in Mexico. I hope he kills every damned criminal in that government, Fuq it. I just don’t care and the more that certain people over here bleat about it, the more certain I am that he is in the right because these people bleating about are spiritually incapable of being on the side of right and truth. And I see the propaganda worked on you. That’s the best you’ve got. How about an explanation of why we are morally superior to Putin? First, tell me how the US being wrong in the past justifies Putin's actions? The Us backed NATO expansion and that is a direct threat to Russia Its not a direct threat to Russia. That's a copout. Try again. I suspect it is a threat and Putin has expressed his concern also..... but of course you know better Maybe you could explain your stance?
Originally Posted by Judman
PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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if operation barbarasso was strictly russians vs germans who would you root for?
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As a country we’ve walked around the earth slapping our dicks in the faces of everyone we pleased and daring them to do something about it. We’ve bombed who we liked, invaded when we liked. We’ve killed countless civilians and caused infinite heartache and pain in places like Serbia and Iraq. How anyone could cheer for us and condemn Putin is mind boggling.
For my part, Putin is already more justified in what he is doing than anything we’ve done in my lifetime. Ukraine is on his border, in his backyard. By that fact alone, he is potentially as justified as we would be if we decided to clean out the cartels in Mexico. I hope he kills every damned criminal in that government, Fuq it. I just don’t care and the more that certain people over here bleat about it, the more certain I am that he is in the right because these people bleating about are spiritually incapable of being on the side of right and truth. And I see the propaganda worked on you. That’s the best you’ve got. How about an explanation of why we are morally superior to Putin? First, tell me how the US being wrong in the past justifies Putin's actions? The Us backed NATO expansion and that is a direct threat to Russia Its not a direct threat to Russia. That's a copout. Try again. I suspect it is a threat and Putin has expressed his concern also..... but of course you know better Maybe you could explain your stance? Perhaps Putin is the threat to those around him, rather than invade they merely armed themselves. Putin doesn't get to dictate what sovereign nations do.
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Ok fair enough..... but what if they are acting as a proxy for an arch enemy?
Originally Posted by Judman
PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Hey Tyler, do you know that John Kirby dude? He's not very impressive
Originally Posted by Judman
PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Ok fair enough..... but what if they are acting as a proxy for an arch enemy? Cuban missile crisis?
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Hey Tyler, do you know that John Kirby dude? He's not very impressive No he isn't. Any rear admiral, heavy on the rear, that takes such a position from Joe probably isn't our friend.
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The truth is none and I mean none of us know the truth.... we can speculate.
I made my speculation, others that like to criticize should make theirs and we can have a discussion.
Or we can just accuse everyone of being conspiracy theorist and dumbfucks.... that talk adds nothing and in my view is simply virtue signaling.
Agreed. I read your assessment. Thank you for writing it. There's certainly plenty of support for the outcomes you describe. The optimist in me hopes it doesn't come to that. We'd be fools to lose the dollar as the global fiat currency. If the US doesn't start playing a longer game, we run the risk of getting crushed over the long run.
If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
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The truth is none and I mean none of us know the truth.... we can speculate.
I made my speculation, others that like to criticize should make theirs and we can have a discussion.
Or we can just accuse everyone of being conspiracy theorist and dumbfucks.... that talk adds nothing and in my view is simply virtue signaling.
Agreed. I read your assessment. Thank you for writing it. There's certainly plenty of support for the outcomes you describe. The optimist in me hopes it doesn't come to that. We'd be fools to lose the dollar as the global fiat currency. If the US doesn't start playing a longer game, we run the risk of getting crushed over the long run. Thanks Kingston, writing those things is like making predictions... risky, with no upside....I like to live a little dangerous though.... 
Originally Posted by Judman
PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Losing the petro dollar may not be up to us.... just sayin
Originally Posted by Judman
PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Its not a direct threat to Russia. That's a copout. Try again.
I suspect it is a threat and Putin has expressed his concern also..... but of course you know better Maybe you could explain your stance?[/quote] Existential threats are threats nonetheless. Tylerw02 can't seem to get beyond dancing around the details.
If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
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Yeah, I am trying to understand Tyler's logic and am having a hard time.
Originally Posted by Judman
PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Shell Oil just announced putting all of their Russian Oil trade profits into a Ukrainian Relief Fund.
Shell has pulled out of their Russian ventures.
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No one has a right to control something the public needs -gas,food,communications,etc...in such ways that serve entirely their own personal interests. So you're a socialist? On the contrary.You on the other hand are-supporting the idea that a private business has the right to monopolize an entire industry or even an economy. First of all, anti-trust is a socialist construct. Second of all, you've provided no compelling argument that you have a right to others' platform. So, carrying your opinion further, if I own a company that has a patent on a mRNA/DNA therapy product and you use it, I then own your mRNA/DNA based on my private company offering a patented product that you and the public chose to use. Your right to your mRNA/DNA is now no longer valid, I can control them. This scenario can bleed right over into the air waves i.e. wireless platforms/servers. If I own those platform/servers, I can stop you from alerting the public over some kind of false news at my leisure. I would call that censuring free speech. While I may own the platform/server, the air waves my platform/servers are broadcasting on are public domain.
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Shell Oil just announced putting all of their Russian Oil trade profits into a Ukrainian Relief Fund.
Shell has pulled out of their Russian ventures. That's some high level virtue signaling right there.... 
Originally Posted by Judman
PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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