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I'm with VarmintGuy. Covering her with a blanket indicates someone that at least new her and felt bad about their behavior. I don't know if family did it but for sure they are major suspects in this activity. Regardless, this whole thing is pretty poor, and and whoever is involved, deserves sure and harsh punishment.


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regardless of circumstances, the person who did that needs hung by his feet and gutted like a cow.


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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
From what I've heard, her body wasn't hidden. It was along side a trail and covered with a blanket. Some hikers saw it and picked up the blanket to find her under it. Would her family be stupid enough to leave her where they know she would be found? The whole thing is strange. I wish I knew more.


On the contrary I suspect that's exactly what they would do. It was probably hard enough for them to take her out there.


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Originally Posted by Fireball2
this is very entertaining, the wife left for a drive so she wouldn't say anything she regretted. Maybe the wife got tired of the husband complaining of him not being the center the attention, of her accent and her culture, and her parents (which by the way live half a world away and are rarely welcome to come visit) the wife works 10 and half hour days, drives two hours for work and still has to come home cook, clean and make sure she is in bed by eight 30 because her husband says he needs the sleep. yes also the other complain is that she wakes him up in the morning when she has to get up at 5 am to do it all over again. yes, also the three kids, yes she should be grateful that he took her in with three kids, especially when she solely supports them and has to attend every school event by herself because the husband is too stuck in the computer for hours on end visiting with his forum friends that do not care if lives or dies. bipolar, that was the last diagnoses for the second wife. respectfully a hard working woman that is fed up. thank you


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BangPop: Would YOU care to engage in a "gentlemans bet" regarding who was responsible for the 90 year old ladies being "deposited" in the snow 50 miles from where she lived with her family and then covered her with a blanket?
I will bet $20.00 (twenty dollars) cash that a member of her family was responsible for her abduction, transportation and depositing in the snow!
You would win the bet if anyone other than a family member is found guilty of somehow going into the families house, packing up granny, putting her in a vehicle (perhaps onto a snowmobile as its winter out here in the Rockies still), then driving granny 50 miles (fifty miles NOT a less risky 4 or 5 miles!) and depositing her and covering her with the blanket.
I feel strongly - and am willing to bet cash money - that a family member is/was involved in this incident.
I am awaiting your acceptance or rejection of my bet/wager.
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You won’t get a bet from me. You may be right, or you may. be completely wrong. The bottom line is that you don’t ha e clue what happened. The thin is that in the USA we are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. Something that you as a former LEO should know better than anyone. You’re assuming someone in the family is guilty. That kind of assumptions are what gets cops in trouble and occasionally an innocent person dead.


If innocent why are they arrested?


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Until the autopsy is finished, the only known crime would be illegally dumping the body. She was in real poor health and most likely died of natural causes.


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Originally Posted by Ringman
Originally Posted by BangPop
Originally Posted by VarmintGuy
BangPop: Would YOU care to engage in a "gentlemans bet" regarding who was responsible for the 90 year old ladies being "deposited" in the snow 50 miles from where she lived with her family and then covered her with a blanket?
I will bet $20.00 (twenty dollars) cash that a member of her family was responsible for her abduction, transportation and depositing in the snow!
You would win the bet if anyone other than a family member is found guilty of somehow going into the families house, packing up granny, putting her in a vehicle (perhaps onto a snowmobile as its winter out here in the Rockies still), then driving granny 50 miles (fifty miles NOT a less risky 4 or 5 miles!) and depositing her and covering her with the blanket.
I feel strongly - and am willing to bet cash money - that a family member is/was involved in this incident.
I am awaiting your acceptance or rejection of my bet/wager.
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You won’t get a bet from me. You may be right, or you may. be completely wrong. The bottom line is that you don’t ha e clue what happened. The thin is that in the USA we are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. Something that you as a former LEO should know better than anyone. You’re assuming someone in the family is guilty. That kind of assumptions are what gets cops in trouble and occasionally an innocent person dead.


If innocent why are they arrested?


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I did not read all the posts but I don't think it will take long till they find whoever did this. When they do it would be nice if he died of lead poisoning right quick!!



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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
Until the autopsy is finished, the only known crime would be illegally dumping the body. She was in real poor health and most likely died of natural causes.



Was she dead before she got to the woods????

My grandmother was so frustrated she threatened to 'throw herself in the canal' - all knowing she couldn't swim! Was she serious??? Not sure. She died in her bed!

My mother, seemed fine Christmas day, this past January, she stopped eating and drinking, developed Sepsis, admitted one day, life support the next, took her off LS and she passed 25 minutes later......

Grandad was laying in the bed he was going to die in, asked grandma 'why is this taking so long?'

Maybe the lady had had enough!!

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Originally Posted by VarmintGuy
BangPop: Would YOU care to engage in a "gentlemans bet" regarding who was responsible for the 90 year old ladies being "deposited" in the snow 50 miles from where she lived with her family and then covered her with a blanket?
I will bet $20.00 (twenty dollars) cash that a member of her family was responsible for her abduction, transportation and depositing in the snow!
You would win the bet if anyone other than a family member is found guilty of somehow going into the families house, packing up granny, putting her in a vehicle (perhaps onto a snowmobile as its winter out here in the Rockies still), then driving granny 50 miles (fifty miles NOT a less risky 4 or 5 miles!) and depositing her and covering her with the blanket.
I feel strongly - and am willing to bet cash money - that a family member is/was involved in this incident.
I am awaiting your acceptance or rejection of my bet/wager.
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Where in the world is $20.00 a bet? Make a real bet out of it and wager more than a cup of Latte.


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Originally Posted by Muffin
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
Until the autopsy is finished, the only known crime would be illegally dumping the body. She was in real poor health and most likely died of natural causes.



Was she dead before she got to the woods????

My grandmother was so frustrated she threatened to 'throw herself in the canal' - all knowing she couldn't swim! Was she serious??? Not sure. She died in her bed!

My mother, seemed fine Christmas day, this past January, she stopped eating and drinking, developed Sepsis, admitted one day, life support the next, took her off LS and she passed 25 minutes later......

Grandad was laying in the bed he was going to die in, asked grandma 'why is this taking so long?'

Maybe the lady had had enough!!

Like I said, the autopsy isn't completed.


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I just read that the police are calling it a homicide. No other info given.


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bangpop: Well YOU (and a lot of other people!) are citing that bit of "wisdom" incorrectly at that.
THE GOVERNMENT can not punish you until you are found guilty!
You absolutely CAN judge people on your observations, circumstantial evidence and firsthand experiences!
I have done it successfully for way over half a century now!
Yeah "I" am "assuming" someone in the family definitely had something to do with the 90 year old being taken up by "someone" and then being removed from the house she and her family lived in and getting taken 50 miles from her and her families dwelling and somehow her getting dead and then somehow someone was kind enough to place a blanket over her whilst they deposited her there in the snow bank!
Sheesh man are you that stupid/oblivious?
If you are so sure of your contention (that the family had nothing to do with her abduction, transportation, death and attempt to hide her remains) then just pony up the $20.00 wager and lets wait for the outcome.
I'm willing - are you?
Maybe your head is better off up your ass?
bangpop it just stretches credulity that an unknown criminal would get into the family home, pack up granny with no one noticing put granny in a car (or on a snowmobile) drive granny 50 (FIFTY!) miles risking getting stopped by the POH-lice while doing so and then take the time to place granny on a snow bank and cover her up with a blanket!
To WHAT end would those actions and various acts of criminality profit a criminal??
Again wake up and smell the roses.
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Hitnrun: Same offer is extended to you!
Or do you have a larger wager in mind?
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Originally Posted by VarmintGuy
bangpop: Well YOU (and a lot of other people!) are citing that bit of "wisdom" incorrectly at that.
THE GOVERNMENT can not punish you until you are found guilty!
You absolutely CAN judge people on your observations, circumstantial evidence and firsthand experiences!
I have done it successfully for way over half a century now!
Yeah "I" am "assuming" someone in the family definitely had something to do with the 90 year old being taken up by "someone" and then being removed from the house she and her family lived in and getting taken 50 miles from her and her families dwelling and somehow her getting dead and then somehow someone was kind enough to place a blanket over her whilst they deposited her there in the snow bank!
Sheesh man are you that stupid/oblivious?
If you are so sure of your contention (that the family had nothing to do with her abduction, transportation, death and attempt to hide her remains) then just pony up the $20.00 wager and lets wait for the outcome.
I'm willing - are you?
Maybe your head is better off up your ass?
bangpop it just stretches credulity that an unknown criminal would get into the family home, pack up granny with no one noticing put granny in a car (or on a snowmobile) drive granny 50 (FIFTY!) miles risking getting stopped by the POH-lice while doing so and then take the time to place granny on a snow bank and cover her up with a blanket!
To WHAT end would those actions and various acts of criminality profit a criminal??
Again wake up and smell the roses.
Sheesh.
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An 89 year old woman doesn't just 'become missing' from home without someone noticing. If she's wandered off, it's normal to contact the police. This wasn't done. The police didn't know she was gone until her body was found. I don't know how many days later that was.


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Originally Posted by Tyrone
Maybe they were looking for a free burial?


Be my guess also, could be as simple as not having the financial resources to do what is right. Time you add the ambulance fee to pick her up, coroner report and cremation fees. 2-3k some people need everything they got just to make it 1 paycheck to the next. It's damn sure going to get worse too....mb


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Originally Posted by VarmintGuy
bangpop: Well YOU (and a lot of other people!) are citing that bit of "wisdom" incorrectly at that.
THE GOVERNMENT can not punish you until you are found guilty!
You absolutely CAN judge people on your observations, circumstantial evidence and firsthand experiences!
I have done it successfully for way over half a century now!
Yeah "I" am "assuming" someone in the family definitely had something to do with the 90 year old being taken up by "someone" and then being removed from the house she and her family lived in and getting taken 50 miles from her and her families dwelling and somehow her getting dead and then somehow someone was kind enough to place a blanket over her whilst they deposited her there in the snow bank!
Sheesh man are you that stupid/oblivious?
If you are so sure of your contention (that the family had nothing to do with her abduction, transportation, death and attempt to hide her remains) then just pony up the $20.00 wager and lets wait for the outcome.
I'm willing - are you?
Maybe your head is better off up your ass?
bangpop it just stretches credulity that an unknown criminal would get into the family home, pack up granny with no one noticing put granny in a car (or on a snowmobile) drive granny 50 (FIFTY!) miles risking getting stopped by the POH-lice while doing so and then take the time to place granny on a snow bank and cover her up with a blanket!
To WHAT end would those actions and various acts of criminality profit a criminal??
Again wake up and smell the roses.
Sheesh.
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Take a [bleep] chill pill you stupid bastard. I didn't deny that it may have been her family that did the dirty deed. You might want to pull YOUR head out of YOUR ass and read what I wrote. I clearly said "You may be right, or you may be completely wrong." I never denied that it's possible that the family was responsible. Then again they may not be involved at all. None of us have a clue who did what in this case. ESPECIALLY NOT YOU. You may think that your years in law enforcement makes you infallible, but again you don't have any evidence that suggests any person is more responsible than another. As I said before, you don't know $hit about this case. Neither do I. If I had to handicap the odds, I would say the highest probability is that the family is responsible. But I'm not stupid enough to jump to a conclusion and blame the family without any evidence. Completely the opposite of you.

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Really... This is an argument?


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