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Have you ever run a 2 stroke?
They sucked donkey balls. "The best engine design ever, for turning fuel into noise!"
They do sound good. With someone else driving, from a distance, And driving away.
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That's why I said "sounded" and not "performed".
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I like the sound of a deleted 6.7 Powerstroke, da cows like it even more.
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Detroits worked just fine.
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Perkins make a nice sound.
One of our flood pumps has an old Perkins with a straight pipe.
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Perkins make a nice sound.
One of our flood pumps has an old Perkins with a straight pipe. Perkins do sound nice, had backhoes with them
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Detroits worked just fine.
Spent too much time with a 318 to agree. It ran. Got the job done, eventually. Pretty much sucked. Would have been ok on flatland, we don't have that. Dropping gears going uphill empty, sucks. Admire their service, they kept America moving in all kind of stuff for decades. Still do in old equipment. 60 Series? If building a "fantasy" truck, it would have a 12.7L.
Parents who say they have good kids..Usually don't!
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Perkins? If they made a tougher diesel, I have never heard of it. When I was working night mechanic at Weyerhaeuser in Orygun, one of the Hyster forklift gals came in at near the end of swing shift, complaining, Paul this thing smokes and stinks so bad, it smells like it's on fire. I raised the seat and looked at the Perkins, the heat resistant paint on the block was curling and smoking (600deg??). Take another forklift Sherry, this thing is fried. It was so hot I couldn't check it out, so I left a note on it and parked it outside. The note blew away, the day mechanic came in the next morning, gave it a quick look over, saw the lower radiator hose had burst, replaced it, checked the levels and sent it back to work. All the paint was gone off the head and down about 3 inches on the block. Not even a cracked head. First chance, I replaced the fried valve cover gasket, and that thing ran reliably for another couple years. I am a died in the wool Perkins fan now.
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Well this is a fine pickle we're in, should'a listened to Joe McCarthy and George Orwell I guess.
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If you buy a diesel for the cool factor..... well that's not very smart. Now if you buy a diesel for a specific reason, that makes sense. For example my Ram diesel hauls my truck camper while towing my boat, or side x side or flat towing the Jeep. In the mountains. The exhaust brake alone is worth the price of admission. Now the Jeep diesel was also chosen for a specific reason. The diesel option came with a lower final drive ratio and heavy duty axles. I put a lift kit on it with 35" tires, for flotation and ground clearance. With the gas motor I would have had to re-gear front and rear, $2500. My fuel mileage would have dropped to low teens. And my axles would be marginal strength for the larger tires. The diesel spins the big tires like nothing, fuel mileage is mid 20's mpg. Off road the low rpm torque will move me over obstacles with ease. I am talking Moab & Rubicon style trails. Just admit you’re gay brother Fubar and move on.
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Perkins make a nice sound.
One of our flood pumps has an old Perkins with a straight pipe. Perkins do sound nice, had backhoes with them Always appreciated that sewing machine tick-tock but never owned one. We’re JD folks.
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One can purchase Cummins crate engines for swaps. They have an dedicated side business just for supplying these engines.
Ok, everyone talks about engines and what is tough and what is rugged. I'll tell you from deep underground hardrock mining experiance the old Deutz air cooled diesels are about as tough as it gets. They used them for decades in the mining industry and for powering tractors and ag equipment in Europe. They are super tough and operate in temps that would melt down and cook my Cummins. Go to youtube and check out some of the Deutz engine swaps from Latin America.
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If you buy a diesel for the cool factor..... well that's not very smart. Now if you buy a diesel for a specific reason, that makes sense. For example my Ram diesel hauls my truck camper while towing my boat, or side x side or flat towing the Jeep. In the mountains. The exhaust brake alone is worth the price of admission. Now the Jeep diesel was also chosen for a specific reason. The diesel option came with a lower final drive ratio and heavy duty axles. I put a lift kit on it with 35" tires, for flotation and ground clearance. With the gas motor I would have had to re-gear front and rear, $2500. My fuel mileage would have dropped to low teens. And my axles would be marginal strength for the larger tires. The diesel spins the big tires like nothing, fuel mileage is mid 20's mpg. Off road the low rpm torque will move me over obstacles with ease. I am talking Moab & Rubicon style trails. Just admit you’re gay brother Fubar and move on. Damn..... first was a Subaru.... then a Jeep.... and Kingston keeps sending me naked guy pic's.... I must be gay.... damn the luck doesn't a guy usually know these things first? I am so confused, how does this work? what bathroom do I use? will the government send me money? do they have rehab for this schit? do I start drinking white claw? wtf
Originally Posted by Judman PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Have you ever run a 2 stroke?
They sucked donkey balls. "The best engine design ever, for turning fuel into noise!"
They do sound good. With someone else driving, from a distance, And driving away. I run a GM 871 TI with twin 892 turbos in my boat. It's loud but I'm deaf.
Life is good live it while you can.
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Anyone that is into Landcruisers has thought about it. 25mpg would give a cruiser a 600 mile range per fill up. My FJ40 gets 9MPG no matter what it's doing.
If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
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Perkins? If they made a tougher diesel, I have never heard of it. When I was working night mechanic at Weyerhaeuser in Orygun, one of the Hyster forklift gals came in at near the end of swing shift, complaining, Paul this thing smokes and stinks so bad, it smells like it's on fire. I raised the seat and looked at the Perkins, the heat resistant paint on the block was curling and smoking (600deg??). Take another forklift Sherry, this thing is fried. It was so hot I couldn't check it out, so I left a note on it and parked it outside. The note blew away, the day mechanic came in the next morning, gave it a quick look over, saw the lower radiator hose had burst, replaced it, checked the levels and sent it back to work. All the paint was gone off the head and down about 3 inches on the block. Not even a cracked head. First chance, I replaced the fried valve cover gasket, and that thing ran reliably for another couple years. I am a died in the wool Perkins fan now. My little Case wheel loader has a Perkins in it. This is the second one of these machines I've had. My only complaint is that it weeps coolant in the winter.
If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
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Have you ever run a 2 stroke?
They sucked donkey balls. "The best engine design ever, for turning fuel into noise!"
They do sound good. With someone else driving, from a distance, And driving away. They certainly were a chore to drive. Sure seems the 13 speed road ranger was specifically designed for the 318s lack of torque.
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I drive a diesel F350 when delivering equipment for my bro and I like diesel for one reason and one reason only….when the Tesla or Toyota Pious is on my ass I can step on the throttle and smoke’em out. 😂. In fact tomorrow I’ll have a new Ford diesel truck for running tractors and equipment around which will be fun to compare against the older one.
For regular towing of more than 50% of the rated tow capacity a diesel is hard to beat. It might take decades to realize a cost benefit since the price of diesel is higher than gas and the vehicle value (ie cost) is higher than the comparable gas model but I prefer the diesel for heavy towing. The last truck I used for hauling was a manual 10 cylinder gas F450. That wasn’t a bad rig but I still much prefer the diesels. I’m a Chevy guy while my brother is a Ford guy. I tried to convince him to look for a Chevy for me but he got another Ford….blondes, brunettes or redheads…..Ford, Chevy, Dodge. I’m running a blond at work and a brunette at home…😁
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Guess I am living the dream Cool ridgeline
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