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I don’t believe in a “Rapture”.

And, we might not ever know.

Those who believe a day of ascension will arrive, yet end up living out their lives until death visits them. Could say the Rapture didn’t happen in their lifetime.

What happens to a believers faith, if they, or no one is taken? Here they find themselves living and suffering through everything the Rapture Story say’s they’ll miss by ascending, along with everyone else on the planet.

Will those of belief and faith, lose it and feel forsaken?

IDK 🤷🏽‍♀️

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Look at that word 'meet' in 1 Thes 4:17. The original Greek word is only used 2 other places in the NT. One is the parable of the 10 virgins, the other is when Paul was approaching Rome and the believers went out to meet him. In the parable, the virgins met the groom and escorted him to the wedding, not back to his home. When Paul was met near Rome, they escorted him to to Rome, not back to where he came from. In both cases, they acted as sort of an honor guard. They did NOT turn the person around and go back to where he came from. Likewise, the Christians will meet Jesus in the air and escort him to his destination - earth, not back to his place of origin, heaven.

The other 2 passages have nothing whatever to do with a rapture. Cor is talking about how we'll get a new body but it doesn't say anything about going back to heaven. Rev is talking to John only, not all believers.

To the original question, those who take a premillennial, futurist view of Revelation, would say the Rapture is imminent, the very next prophetical doctrine to take place. And I agree, the trajectories we see in our culture, our government’s overreach, general corruption, reflecting our corporate rejecting of a moral basis for what we do, is very telling. Not in a good way.

And, to my brother from another mother, efw 😀, you are technically correct. But it could be said it is strongly alluded to in 2 Thess. and other places along with the fact the church is “absent” in Revelation from somewhere near the end of ch 3 until finally mentioned again at the end of the book.

Regardless, our hope is in Jesus Christ.

Veterans of the Crusades were given a pin in recognition of their service - a raptured duck.

Many people try to make something of the Christians not being mentioned in the tribulation. Well, the USA isn't mentioned but it'll be there. Cambodia isn't mentioned, nor is Chili, but they'll be there. The tribulation is against the non-believers but it doesn't say the believers aren't there. They just aren't tribulated.

Scripture does mention the rapture as being “caught up”. The Greek word for caught up is harpazo and means to snatch away, which is what will happen to believers in the rapture.

1 Thess 4:17 says,
“Then we which are alive and remain shall be CAUGHT UP together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”

If believers are alive at that time, we will literally go up in the air to meet Jesus. Jesus will meet us in the air because Heaven is our destiny.

The rapture is part of the doctrine of the resurrection and occurs in a sequence.
1 Cor 15:20, 22-23, 51-52, and 1 Thess 4:13-18

The rapture is a separate event from the Day of the Lord (His wrath) and Jesus’ return to earth. The rapture is the resurrection of the body of Christ (the Church), which spares believers from His coming wrath on earth.

Believers who have died will be raised first and given resurrection bodies. Then believers who are alive will be caught up and given resurrection bodies in exchange for their earthly bodies. Both groups will be snatched away or caught up to be with the Lord forever.

Believers who are living will be snatched away and will not experience God’s wrath (the tribulation).

We are told in scripture to proclaim the rapture to comfort one another until Jesus comes. 1 Thess 4:18

…..and what we are seeing is still not as bad as what has seen during the Roman Empire, Corinth etc.

I don’t wait for a rapture for God to take me out of this world. With the Apostles and early church I await the return of Christ and the new Heaven and new earth.

That is my thought too. Back when this was written it was customary for the people to go out and meet the army outside of the city limits after a military victory and escort them back into the city to celebrate.

The Bible only speaks of one 2nd coming not two second comings.

Revelation 6:9-11

9 When He opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony which they held.

10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, "How long, O Lord, holy and true, until You judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?"

11 Then a white robe was given to each of them; and it was said to them that they should rest a little while longer, until both [the number of] their fellow servants and their brethren, who would be killed as they [were], was completed.

Muffin - you make good points with the scriptures you reference from Paul’s writings. I cannot biblically rebut your point. But I maintain my opinion. 🙂

There is belief that the 12 disciples (excluding Judas, including Matthias) traveled extensively across Europe/Asia/Africa to spread the gospel. I do find it hard to imagine that during Paul’s lifetime the gospel journeyed to the Americas or Australia

Who knows?????🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

No telling how many the self appointed "2nd Son of God" has...
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before this turns into hundreds of pages of philosophical discuusion...

dont worry, none of youz fugks are disappearing to anywhere.
ALL the participants of this Den of Inequity are headed straight to the burning fires.
Bank on it.
Carry On.

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Prey tell. What is wrong with interracial marriage?


Mathew 24 indicates we are seven years from the rapture unit the Tribulation starts.

Where are the two prophets in Revelation 11? We get to see them.

Good post.

Missed it by nearly two millennia.

Christ's kingdom never ends...we are in the new heavens and new earth.

You must interpret the writings in the context that the writers and original recipients understood. Audience relevance!

ie entire world really means the Roman Empire.

Heaven and Earth means Priesthood and the People of God.

Read the first verses of the Revelation and tell me that letter would have any meaning to the 7 churches it was written to, if the events were not going to happen for 2,000 years.

C'mon man!!

Jiminy says "Chirp Chirp"

Thought the Jehovah's Witnesses had this all sewed up for themselves lock, stock, and barrel???

Figuring no one wants to answer an obvious question on ones faith if they are wrong.

Jiminy,

Beav says, find a worm.

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I hear ya’ man. I reckon’ it’s possible for some to maybe lose their faith over what you’ve described above. But if they do, they might be losing their faith over something that they never shoulda put their faith in in the first place.

Peter’s faith, as well as the faith of all of Jesus’ original and earliest followers wasn’t based on the rapture. It was based on an event, an event that they saw with their own eyes. It wasn’t based on anything else.

Does it make sense that our faith should be based on the very same thing that their faith was based on…?