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Originally Posted by Greyghost
Use any examples you'd like, doesn't change the facts...

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Do the facts drive the narrative or does the narrative drive the facts Phillip ?

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Obama was too young for Vietnam. He's younger than I am, and I'm too young for Vietnam. I served from '77 to '81, too late for that mess.

I am not defending Obama, but fair is fair, and comparing him to those other idiots just isn't "period correct".
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Honk for Joey had Asthma but yet played college sports.
Actually received more deferments than President Trump IIRC...

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OBammy ???
What did he do
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Community organizer/ panderer....

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Their are double counterpoints that can be easily made...





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You are correct, GG. It was an atrocity. Committed by a political party that continues to commit atrocities today, but which you apparently champion nonetheless.


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Originally Posted by ratsmacker
Obama was too young for Vietnam.

......they didnt allow Gheys in the military then either.

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Really Phil, the point you oughta be makin', who were the defense contractors receiving the governments largess and who were the politicians awarding it?
Then take that a step further and figure out who got the kickbacks.

But that wouldnt drive the narrative now would it?

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Originally Posted by Greyghost
The way around the Privileged, the elite College Partier's, and just the Draft Dodgers in General...

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Like all wars Vietnam was started by war mongering Demokkkrats



I agree that draft dodgers like Biden, Obama and Clinton are scum

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Wrong, like all you fools that still believe Viet Nam was started by Johnson and we didn't have any troops there until '65. When in fact, it was Nixon that first sent troops their as VP under Eisenhower while the French were still there. Most of you all don't know nothin from nothin.

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Originally Posted by Greyghost
Wrong, like all you fools that still believe Viet Nam was started by Johnson and we didn't have any troops there until '65. When in fact, it was Nixon that first sent troops their as VP under Eisenhower while the French were still there. Most of you all don't know nothin from nothin.

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The first ad hoc troop deposits were under Johnson Phil, Ike and Dicks people were advisors.

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Guessing this is true, but I never crossed paths with such during my tours. Well, except for a couple unit commanders that were clearly retarded.


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Believe that if you want... Same as you all call Iraq and Afghanistan the Obama war. [bleep], Bush Sr. with '91 and his pissant son with all his lies in 2003... not hard to figure which party is what.

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Originally Posted by Greyghost
Wrong, like all you fools that still believe Viet Nam was started by Johnson and we didn't have any troops there until '65. When in fact, it was Nixon that first sent troops their as VP under Eisenhower while the French were still there. Most of you all don't know nothin from nothin.

Phil


The first ad hoc troop deposits were under Johnson Phil, Ike and Dicks people were advisors.



Phil has no understanding of history

Remember when Obama was killing innocent children with drones Phil? How many wars did Obama have ? Five?

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The blood thirsty war monger Obama loved killing innocent civilians and aid workers with his killer drone

https://theworld.org/stories/if-oba...ctim-every-day-it-would-take-him-3-years




If Obama apologized for 1 civilian drone victim every day, it would take him 3 ye
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And Biden likes to drone kill innocent civilians too

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/13/us-...hanistan-drone-killing-of-civilians.html



Trump ended that killing of civilians but Dementia Biden started it up again.

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Originally Posted by joken2

Interesting points in OPs posted story link:

Program instituted under a Democrat administration

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...Robert McNamara and the Johnson Administration sold Project 100,000 as an expansion of Great Society welfare programs where poor, mentally disabled men could learn important life skills. Labor Secretary Daniel Moynihan said, “Expectations of what can be done in America are receding. Our best hope is to use the Armed Forces as a socializing experience for the poor.”...




What, ...no mention of deferments for Democrat Bill Clinton? Joe Biden ?

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...Children of the affluent middle class could avoid the draft by seeking an educational deferment (like Dick Cheney) or by finding a friendly doctor to get a medical deferment (like Donald Trump). ...









They were exempt, being employed by the deep state cabals Chinese commies.


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Philly doesn't care about anything other than Party.

She just wanted to post about Trump and Cheney.

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One of the 13 soldiers killed by Dementia Biden's phuug up in Afghanistan. Never enough dead soldiers for Democrats

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I believe it. I was in RVN 1968. had a troop working for me that kind of fit that category. In 1966 when I was there a kid out on the range picked up 2 mortar shell and banged the ends together. Boom. In thinking back he probably fit that group.

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Something rarely ever brought up when talking military deferments during the Vietnam war is the approved deferment for skilled trade apprenticeships which many took advantage of to avoid avoid serving in Vietnam.

A good friend of mine at the time did this. Late teens, fresh out of high school, lived at home with his parents, from an ordinary working class family, not wealthy or with political influence. He took advantage of a body repair and paint apprenticeship program offered at the vehicle dealership where he was already working. Wound up years later owning his own successful body repair / paint shop.

He did this mainly on the advice of his older brother who told him to do whatever he could to stay away from Vietnam. His brother was Green Beret (I know he was SF because I saw his dress uniform and beret) and had just recently finished his military obligation, got out, and never looked back.




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I see the Demokkkrats are over in Ukraine ochestrating a wwwIII


Who gave Pelosi , Schiff and Crow the authority to start a world war gay Phil?


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Originally Posted by Greyghost
Believe that if you want... Same as you all call Iraq and Afghanistan the Obama war. [bleep], Bush Sr. with '91 and his pissant son with all his lies in 2003... not hard to figure which party is what.

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Thank God Nixon got us out of Afghanistan and Trump ended 2 wars

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